GabonX [Cleared]

[spyhunter]

Subject line: <Put name of accused in subject line>


These are suspected Multis/Secret Alliance

Suspect users: GabonX

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1836244

game=1836244, 1836241, 1836240 and more

Comments: starts 8 player games that get filled up with brand new account members



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[spyhunter]

Has many games that get filled up with newbies, most of the time accounts that all signed up on the same day... and usually are only used in that game... which he wins and collects the points.

spyhunter

[Genghis Khan CA]

Are you going to post the names of everyone who starts public games??

Again, your accusation is possible (well not for the ones who are from different countries but maybe some of the others), however unlikely. Simply having a lot of deadbeats in your public game is a pretty thin basis to accuse a player of cheating, IMO.

Nevertheless you have the right to ask for it to be checked out and the multi hunters will do it. My only concern is whether these sorts of accusations might waste some of their valuable time. We shall soon see I suppose.

[sully800]

GabonX is cleared. Probably just a coincidence that his games were joined by all new players.

[GabonX]

Jees, if your going to accuse me of being a multi atleast accuse me of doing it with JMart

The fact is that newbs seem to love the big classic games. I like winning 50 to a 100 points for a single game. Until we have a rank filter, which isn't likely to happen, you're likely to see alot of new players in my games.

[spyhunter]

There are many many programs that mask your IP address and your country of origin

[Genghis Khan CA]

There are many many programs that mask your IP address and your country of origin

The multi hunters look at more than just IP address... They are very good and thorough and have ways of getting around things like that, so if they've cleared him you can be pretty confident that the decision was right.

[spyhunter]

genghis.. do you really think that it is all legit? or just to hard to prove? I honeslly want to know what you think.
the country of origin thing is surprising easy to get past... I googled it there are many ways to mask your IP address and your origin.
this guy may be clear... but KLOBBER has done it so many times.
It seems way too fishy

[GabonX]

Allright well don't play with me if you have a problem. If thats not good enough then you'll just have to suck it up because I am cleared.

C-L-E-A-R-E-D

[Genghis Khan CA]

I think it is really legit, there is no real evidence to support your claim, aside from the high presence of new players.

Take KLOBBER's case for example - sure there are a number of games which fill with a lot of newbies, but there are also a lot which are filled with sgts and cpts and majors.

Look at all the Circus Maximus standard games 6-8 players... you tend to find that when a few newbies join, more follow.

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1829274
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1827613
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1772194
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1749548
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1728714
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1660679
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1414816
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1168284
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1270761

I suppose if what you see arouses your suspicion, you are entitled to report it. However, since the multi-hunters have cleared both players and you have no evidence other than a selection of games you consider suspicious, but which can easily be explained by more likely scenarios.

Maybe it is just looking at it from different perspectives... to me the evidence you present is unconvincing, but to you it is obviously convincing enough. At the end of the day neither of us make the decisions so we must trust the multi-hunters to do their job well and I certainly do that.

[GabonX]

If you still doubt that I am a 100% legit player then do me a favor and create 20 games on the classic map. No fog of war, no cards etc... Make them with the exact same settings I make my games and see how many new recruits join them. That should end any doubt in your mind.

If you arent willing to do that then you really don't have a foot to stand on here.

[Risktaker17]

I will! Well maybe I'll just make one

[GabonX]

1 may not be enough. If you check my games not all of them are filled with new recruits. Some of them have captain's, privates, cooks, you name it. I have no control over who joins but I promise you that if you create a large number of these games a few of them will fill up with new recruits.

[Genghis Khan CA]

Perhaps spyhunter has a guilty conscience

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1731963
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1731965
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1731968
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1731973

Not an accusation, but pots should be careful about calling kettles black

[GabonX]

Yeah, what the heck is up with that? I've NEVER had a game where everyone deadbeated out.

Maybe he's jealous that he thinks someone else is stealing his method of cheating. He's the one that sais he knows how to mask location and IP addresses so that's definately fishy.

Either way he should be understanding of my situation given that it's his situation too...

[Genghis Khan CA]

Yeah, what the heck is up with that? I've NEVER had a game where everyone deadbeated out.

Maybe he's jealous that he thinks someone else is stealing his method of cheating. He's the one that sais he knows how to mask location and IP addresses so that's definately fishy.

Either way he should be understanding of my situation given that it's his situation too...

It's not the same situation... they were private games

[GabonX]

Talk about dumb, its pretty obvious that he did the exact thing he is acusing me of.

I'm putting him up. What are the odds of him creating private games with people he knows who all deadbeat out.

I wouldn't make a stink about it but these games are all in a row, they are all on different maps, they are all private and they all have the same players...

CHEATER!!!

[spyhunter]

they were private games.. I set up their accounts, they decided not to play. no masking IP's were all in Canada. I dont even know how to do that I just know that it is possible.

no one else was involved, the only harm was that I received points for them... which I have asked CC to remove from my record.

Actually what happened to me with those games is what made me realise that it was possible.