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Ellemann and magiiiiiic [noted]

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Ellemann and magiiiiiic [noted]

Postby KoE_Sirius on Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:57 am

Ellemann and magiiiiiic


These are suspected Secret Alliance

Suspect users:Ellemann and magiiiiiic

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1669224

Comments: Magiiiiic carried on attacking me even after Ellemann was game leader.Plus he had troops at the end that he didnt use.


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Postby sully800 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:32 pm

Its a fog of war game which often means that players don't know who is the strongest. Of course its possible that there was something else going on, but most likely it was probably a poor decision based on lack of info. In any case, there needs to be at least one other game where its suspected that they worked together, other wise it was probably a freak occurrence.
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Postby wicked on Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:43 pm

I didn't see this thread earlier. Here's my comment from another thread...

wicked wrote:I just read through the entire game log carefully to make sure I wasn't missing anything. You weren't attacked until round 7, when you and yellow ran into each other. you guys went back and forth and you took him out. During this time, green was busy taking over the northern part of the map while red was busy taking over the southern part of the map. This is typical in fog games on that map... take over as much as you can while staying out of view of the other players. After you took out yellow, green continued his march across the top and red moved up from the north, with you in between the two. They both ran into you around the same time, and attacked you since you were the only one they saw. So I still don't see the "round after round" attacks you speak of. The game played out fine, with nothing that looked like a secret alliance taking place.
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Postby KoE_Sirius on Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:34 am

There is no question that I got into a honest battle with a player at the beginning..What is in question is why did magiiiiiiic attack me,when the game log says ellemann has 4 castles and just attacked his 40 sitting on the nothern plains border.Look at the game as it sits...You can theorize all you like,but when weakest attacks weakest...Its simple enough to see.
What Magiiiic did was come through realms.Attacked my castle which had a 40+ army and then ended his turn.He did all this knowing that ellemann had 50 troops sitting in Northern plains even if he hadnt read the game log.
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Postby wicked on Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:04 am

Magiic did not "see" Ellemann until Round 13, when he broke through from Great Kingdom to Realm of Might... and he did attack Ellemann there but didn't have that many armies to do so with since in the previous round he had forted the vast majority of this men to N.P. 3 in a plan to break through to Feudal War. This was a chained game. As soon as they saw each other, they both attacked each other. Just so happens you and Ellemann had been fighting each other the couple rounds before that, when YOU were the strongest player, and Ellemann had weakened you enough to get your castles and take you out in the same round him and magiiic were going at it on the other side of the map.

So while I still don't see an alliance in this game, we'll watch for any other reports of possible alliances in other games.
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Postby KoE_Sirius on Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:54 am

wicked wrote:Magiic did not "see" Ellemann until Round 13, when he broke through from Great Kingdom to Realm of Might... and he did attack Ellemann there but didn't have that many armies to do so with since in the previous round he had forted the vast majority of this men to N.P. 3 in a plan to break through to Feudal War. This was a chained game. As soon as they saw each other, they both attacked each other. Just so happens you and Ellemann had been fighting each other the couple rounds before that, when YOU were the strongest player, and Ellemann had weakened you enough to get your castles and take you out in the same round him and magiiic were going at it on the other side of the map.

So while I still don't see an alliance in this game, we'll watch for any other reports of possible alliances in other games.

Yes I was in Realm of might castle..You are correct.You just got the players muddled.2008-01-25 12:26:45 - KoE_Sirius gets bonus of 5 armies added to Realm of Might Castle
2008-01-25 12:26:45 - KoE_Sirius receives 3 armies for holding 6 Realm of Might Territories
2008-01-25 12:26:45 - KoE_Sirius receives 3 armies for 6 territories
2008-01-25 12:27:42 - magiiiiiic attacked Realm of Might 7 from Great Kingdom 7 and conquered it from neutral player
2008-01-25 12:27:48 - magiiiiiic attacked Realm of Might 5 from Realm of Might 7 and conquered it from KoE_Sirius
2008-01-25 12:28:17 - magiiiiiic fortified Realm of Might 5 with 5 armies from Great Kingdom Castle.The time he fortied he had 30 men there.
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