Rail Europe [Quenched]

[Lone.prophet]

you think it would be better if paris was devide into 4 like the actual stations?

[cairnswk]

you think it would be better if paris was devide into 4 like the actual stations?

I am presnetly reworking the stations to take into account the need for the simpler codes to correspond with the xml. therefore Paris is not out the firing line for re-design, although IO would like to try and keep it in this style, same as with RAIL USA.

Why should paris have only 4, LP?

[Lone.prophet]

dunno you could also just do gare du nord and an other one it would make a nice change so it isnt so much the same as america

[cairnswk]

dunno you could also just do gare du nord and an other one it would make a nice change so it isnt so much the same as america

Hmmmm...i wanted it to be similar to usa, that's why it is like this.

[cairnswk]

I imagine there is no way to sneak the three letter track code vertically down the side, either in the color box or in the army box?

R
I
B

No...the three letters won't fit downwards in that side box. Well at small font size 7 they fit but one can't read that on the small map.
The only other thing to do is remove the Line Code BRX (eg) from the legend and simply have A, B, C, D, and code it that way.

Version 24
This change is in response to Oaktown's posting about the colours and codes, and i hope it solves the problems.

The stations will appear in the xml drop list as

London LON(A)
London LON(C)
London LON(D)

and the map line codes have been changed accordingly.

1 station buildings don't need a code, nor do stations will three lines running through, as these will simply appear as

Koln KLN
Frankfurt FRT

Paris has not yet been tackled...on the to do list, but i am hoping to keep the current format with the letters alongside on the map.

[Optimus Prime]

I don't know about anyone else, but I think the bolded station names were both easier to read, and better looking. Just an opinion. The new version looks.....alright in that regard, I just think the last one looked better.

[cairnswk]

I don't know about anyone else, but I think the bolded station names were both easier to read, and better looking. Just an opinion. The new version looks.....alright in that regard, I just think the last one looked better.

OK Optumis...thanks for that, i will change them back to bold....different font, but bolded....easy-peasy (ha i been watching too much Jamie)

EDIT// changed the font back also.

Please F5 to see the changes.

[yeti_c]

For completeness - I would add the "alpha" code to all stations... This 'should' also help everyone to be able to tell the exact continents if they are CB... (Although as I'm not I can't guarantee that is the case)

C.

[cairnswk]

For completeness - I would add the "alpha" code to all stations... This 'should' also help everyone to be able to tell the exact continents if they are CB... (Although as I'm not I can't guarantee that is the case)

C.

Don't you think that is "overdoing it"?
All station codes on the map are in black, so i don't see why a single station like Frankfurt needs a line code.
This would also be inconsistant with what is in Rail USA, where LMR Lamar is a single station, even though it covers two lines.

EDIT// Gees i know who to talk myself out of a situation, you are correct C. I will add all line codes to station.

[yeti_c]

I just think that each station should be the same - else people will look at the letters and think - what are those letters for and why are they only on half of the stations?

C.

[onbekende]

You know I approved this map he

Lets see if I can give them to you in order

British Rail: 4 terr, 1 def/att, 1 cont => Bonus of 2 (good enough)
Benelux Express: 4 terr, 2 def/att, 9 cont => Bonus of 3 (make it 3, only Hamburg and Paris need defending, I know I love this one, but overpowering it is too much)
InterCity Express: 5 terr, 3 def/att, 8 cont => Bonus of 4 (As I see it now, Lausane is only a transit station, and doesn't has a stop for this line, this making this continent rather different then before, Bonus of 4 is also still too much, 3 at best!!!)
Sim-Orient Express: 9 terr, 6 def/att, 9 cont => Bonus of 7 (6 stations to defend, give it a mex of 8, NO MORE)
Trein Grande Vitesse: 4 terr, 4 def/att, 9 cont => Bonus of 5 (as the bonus is set to 3 for VERY good reasons (will explain again if needed) I am fine with it)
Rail Ideria: 7 terr, 2 def/att, 1 cont => Bonus of 3 (2 is MORE then fine, same as above)
Scandinavian Rail (sp?): 7 terr, 2 def/att, 3 cont => Bonus of 3 (I am tempted to go to 2, depends if you want this to be a stronghold)
Nord Express: 6 terr, 5 def/att, 9 cont => Bonus of 6 (good)
EuroCity Express: 7 terr, 5 def/att, 6 cont => Bonus of 6 (good, thou dificult to read on small map)
Orient Express: 6 terr, 5 def/att, 8 cont => Bonus of 6 (5 to defend, thou hard to hold line, 6 is good, 7 I can life with) (Lausane transit station?)
Ven-Sim Orient Exp: 6 terr, 5 def/att, 8 cont => Bonus of 6 (good)
Trenitalia: 5 terr, 3 def/att, 2 cont => Bonus of 3 (good)
Baltic Express: 3 terr, 2 def/att, 2 cont => Bonus of 2 (2 is MORE then fine!)
Vilnius Express: 3 terr, 1 def/att, 1 cont => Bonus of 1 (2 is good, thou this is a Oceania)
Trans Europa Exp: 7 terr, 5 def/att, 9 cont => Bonus of 6 (6 is fine, somewhat edge of fighting, can be taken with the Oriental ones, depends what you want, won't shoot you if you stay 7)
Ukraine Rail: 6 terr, 2 def/att, 2 cont => Bonus of 3 (I said 2 earlier, I am sticing to that)


Rest is fine, huzzah its back

[cairnswk]

I just think that each station should be the same - else people will look at the letters and think - what are those letters for and why are they only on half of the stations?

C.

yes....although, Florence, Venice, Koln, and Sofia will only have one station code and not a line code.

[cairnswk]

Rest is fine, huzzah its back

Onbekende...thanks..i have adjusted some of those bonuses as per your request in the Version 24 above. Please F5 to C changes.

All stations except Florence, Venice, Koln, and Sofia should now have a service line code on them including Paris.

Everyone happy?!

[onbekende]

now; Lausane, whats the deal? I see 2 train stops, thus those 2 lines (red and cyan just run thruw it without a stop?

[cairnswk]

now; Lausane, whats the deal? I see 2 train stops, thus those 2 lines (red and cyan just run thruw it without a stop?

Onbekende...i just figured out how to show that station....F5 in a few minutes to see the changes in the map above.

[cairnswk]

OK...here is the beginning of the xml continents.
Someone wanna check them, please.

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<map>
<title>RAIL EUROPE</title>
<smallwidth>621</smallwidth>
<smallheight>600</smallheight>
<largewidth>800</largewidth>
<largeheight>773</largeheight>
<filetype>jpg</filetype>

<continent>
<name>A British Rail</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
<components>
<component>GLW Glasgow</component>
<component>EDB Edinburgh</component>
<component>LVP Liverpool</component>
<component>LON London A</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>B Benelux Express</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
<components>
<component>BRU Brussels D</component>
<component>AMS Amsterdam</component>
<component>HAM Hamburg D</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>C Intercity Express</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
<components>
<component>LON London C</component>
<component>PAR Paris C</component>
<component>LAU Lausanne D</component>
<component>MUN Munich</component>
<component>FRT Frankfurt</component>
<component>KLN Köln</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>D Sim-Orient Express</name>
<bonus>7</bonus>
<components>
<component>PAR Paris D</component>
<component>LAU Lausanne D</component>
<component>VIE Vienna D</component>
<component>BUD Budapest D</component>
<component>BGD Belgrade D</component>
<component>ATH Athens D</component>
<component>SOF Sofia</component>
<component>IST Istanbul D</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>E Train a Grande Vitesse</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<component>PAR Paris E</component>
<component>IRN Irun E</component>
<component>MRS Marseille E</component>
<component>NCE Nice E</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>F Rail Iberia</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<component>IRN Irun F</component>
<component>MRS Marseille F</component>
<component>PTB Port Bou F</component>
<component>BCN Barcelona F</component>
<component>MDD Madrid F</component>
<component>CDZ Cadiz F</component>
<component>LIS Lisbon F</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>G Scan Rail</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
<components>
<component>HSL Helsinki G</component>
<component>STK Stockholm G</component>
<component>THM Trondheim G</component>
<component>OSO Oslo G</component>
<component>MLO Malmo G</component>
<component>CPH Copenhagen G</component>
<component>HAM Hamburg G</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>H Nord Express</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
<components>
<component>SPG St Petersburg H</component>
<component>KLG Kaliningrad H</component>
<component>BER Berlin H</component>
<component>KLN Köln</component>
<component>BRU Brussels H</component>
<component>PAR Paris H</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>I EuroCity Express</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
<components>
<component>HAM Hamburg I</component>
<component>BER Berlin I</component>
<component>PRG Prague I</component>
<component>BUD Badapest I</component>
<component>BUC Bucharest I</component>
<component>SOF Sofia</component>
<component>ATH Athens I</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>J Orient Express</name>
<bonus>7</bonus>
<components>
<component>PAR Paris J</component>
<component>LAU Lausanne J&K</component>
<component>VEN Venice</component>
<component>BGD Belgrade J</component>
<component>SOF Sofia</component>
<component>IST Istanbul J</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>K Ven-Sim Orient Exp</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
<components>
<component>PAR Paris K</component>
<component>LAU Lausanne J&K</component>
<component>VEN Venice</component>
<component>VIE Vienna K</component>
<component>FLN Florence</component>
<component>ROM Rome K</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>L Trenitalia</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
<components>
<component>NCE Nice L</component>
<component>FLN Florence</component>
<component>ROM Rome L</component>
<component>BSI Brindisi L</component>
<component>CBA Reggio di Calabria</component>
<component>VEN Venice</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>M Baltic Express</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
<components>
<component>HSL Helsinki M</component>
<component>SPG St Petersburg M</component>
<component>MOW Moscow M</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>N Vilnius Express</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<component>WAW Warsaw N</component>
<component>VIL Vilnius V</component>
<component>SPG St Petersburg N</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>O Trans Europe Express</name>
<bonus>7</bonus>
<components>
<component>PAR Paris O</component>
<component>BRU Brussels O</component>
<component>KLN Köln</component>
<component>PRG Prague O</component>
<component>WAW Warsaw O</component>
<component>MIN Minsk O</component>
<component>MOW Moscow O</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>P Ukraine Rail</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<component>MOW Moscow P</component>
<component>WAW Warsaw P</component>
<component>KEV Kiev P</component>
<component>LVV Lvov P</component>
<component>ODS Odessa P</component>
<component>BUD Budapest P</component>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>PAR Paris</name>
<bonus>9</bonus>
<components>
<component>PAR Paris B</component>
<component>PAR Paris C</component>
<component>PAR Paris D</component>
<component>PAR Paris E</component>
<component>PAR Paris H</component>
<component>PAR Paris J</component>
<component>PAR Paris K</component>
<component>PAR Paris O</component>
</components>
</continent>

<!-- A British Rail -->

<territory>
<name>GLW Glascow A</name>
<borders>
<border>LVP Liverpool A</border>
<border>SEA Seattle PIO</border>
<border>PDX Portland</border>
</borders>
<coordinates>
<smallx>29</smallx>
<smally>169</smally>
<largex>63</largex>
<largey>217</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>

...

</map>

[iancanton]

cairns

i've checked nothing else but names in the xml.

GLW Glasgow
KLN Koeln
BUD Budapest
E Train a Grande Vitesse
G Scandinavian Rail (perhaps Scan Rail is better, as this latter name is in actual use)
SPG St Petersburg
KLG Kaliningrad
BUC Bucharest
CBA Reggio di Calabria
BRU Brussels or Brussel (both versions appear in xml)

attacking: stations separated (not "interested") by lines cannot attack each other (no comma wanted between lines and cannot)

i find odd the choice of stations at the france-spain frontier. all other stations on the map are well-known cities but these. did u consider san sebastian and perpignan as alternatives at any point?

some of the city codes are somewhat unorthodox, for example BCN is almost universally used as shorthand for barcelona and, similarly, CPH for copenhagen, but i think no-one will lose sleep over this.

i also like the visual link between paris and rail usa's chicago.

ian.

[cairnswk]

cairns

i've checked nothing else but names in the xml.

GLW Glasgow
KLN Koeln
BUD Budapest
E Train a Grande Vitesse
G Scandinavian Rail (perhaps Scan Rail is better, as this latter name is in actual use)
SPG St Petersburg
KLG Kaliningrad
BUC Bucharest
CBA Reggio di Calabria
BRU Brussels or Brussel (both versions appear in xml)

attacking: stations separated (not "interested") by lines cannot attack each other (no comma wanted between lines and cannot)

Thanks for that ian...changed in xml and map.

i find odd the choice of stations at the france-spain frontier. all other stations on the map are well-known cities but these. did u consider san sebastian and perpignan as alternatives at any point?

I chose those stations because of their absolute closeness to the borders.

some of the city codes are somewhat unorthodox, for example BCN is almost universally used as shorthand for barcelona and, similarly, CPH for copenhagen, but i think no-one will lose sleep over this.

Done.

i also like the visual link between paris and rail usa's chicago.
ian

yes i think it is absolutely necessary to have that link.

Changes are made to version 24 above.

[yeti_c]

Cairns,

The XML - is out of date I'm afraid...

The new XML means that we have...

Code: Select all

<components>
  <territory>john</territory>
  <continent>dave</continent>
</components>


Code: Select all

<components>
  <component>john</component>
</components>


Also I'd consider a colon... i.e.
A: British Rail
B: Benelux Express

C.

[cairnswk]

Cairns,

The XML - is out of date I'm afraid...

The new XML means that we have...

Code: Select all

<components>
  <territory>john</territory>
  <continent>dave</continent>
</components>


Code: Select all

<components>
  <component>john</component>
</components>


Also I'd consider a colon... i.e.
A: British Rail
B: Benelux Express

C.

Thanks C....got that from my old Rail USA file

Is this better?

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<map>
<title>RAIL EUROPE</title>
<smallwidth>621</smallwidth>
<smallheight>600</smallheight>
<largewidth>800</largewidth>
<largeheight>773</largeheight>
<filetype>jpg</filetype>

<continent>
<name>A: British Rail</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
<components>
<territory>GLW Glasgow</territory>
<territory>EDB Edinburgh</territory>
<territory>LVP Liverpool</territory>
<territory>LON London A</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>B: Benelux Express</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
<components>
<territory>BRU Brussels D</territory>
<territory>AMS Amsterdam</territory>
<territory>HAM Hamburg D</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>C: Intercity Express</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
<components>
<territory>LON London C</territory>
<territory>PAR Paris C</territory>
<territory>LAU Lausanne D</territory>
<territory>MUN Munich</territory>
<territory>FRT Frankfurt</territory>
<territory>KLN Köln</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>D: Sim-Orient Express</name>
<bonus>7</bonus>
<components>
<territory>PAR Paris D</territory>
<territory>LAU Lausanne D</territory>
<territory>VIE Vienna D</territory>
<territory>BUD Budapest D</territory>
<territory>BGD Belgrade D</territory>
<territory>ATH Athens D</territory>
<territory>SOF Sofia</territory>
<territory>IST Istanbul D</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>E: Train a Grande Vitesse</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<territory>PAR Paris E</territory>
<territory>IRN Irun E</territory>
<territory>MRS Marseille E</territory>
<territory>NCE Nice E</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>F: Rail Iberia</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<territory>IRN Irun F</territory>
<territory>MRS Marseille F</territory>
<territory>PTB Port Bou F</territory>
<territory>BCN Barcelona F</territory>
<territory>MDD Madrid F</territory>
<territory>CDZ Cadiz F</territory>
<territory>LIS Lisbon F</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>G: Scan Rail</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
<components>
<territory>HSL Helsinki G</territory>
<territory>STK Stockholm G</territory>
<territory>THM Trondheim G</territory>
<territory>OSO Oslo G</territory>
<territory>MLO Malmo G</territory>
<territory>CPH Copenhagen G</territory>
<territory>HAM Hamburg G</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>H: Nord Express</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
<components>
<territory>SPG St Petersburg H</territory>
<territory>KLG Kaliningrad H</territory>
<territory>BER Berlin H</territory>
<territory>KLN Köln</territory>
<territory>BRU Brussels H</territory>
<territory>PAR Paris H</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>I: EuroCity Express</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
<components>
<territory>HAM Hamburg I</territory>
<territory>BER Berlin I</territory>
<territory>PRG Prague I</territory>
<territory>BUD Badapest I</territory>
<territory>BUC Bucharest I</territory>
<territory>SOF Sofia</territory>
<territory>ATH Athens I</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>J: Orient Express</name>
<bonus>7</bonus>
<components>
<territory>PAR Paris J</territory>
<territory>LAU Lausanne J&K</territory>
<territory>VEN Venice</territory>
<territory>BGD Belgrade J</territory>
<territory>SOF Sofia</territory>
<territory>IST Istanbul J</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>K: Ven-Sim Orient Exp</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
<components>
<territory>PAR Paris K</territory>
<territory>LAU Lausanne J&K</territory>
<territory>VEN Venice</territory>
<territory>VIE Vienna K</territory>
<territory>FLN Florence</territory>
<territory>ROM Rome K</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>L: Trenitalia</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
<components>
<territory>NCE Nice L</territory>
<territory>FLN Florence</territory>
<territory>ROM Rome L</territory>
<territory>BSI Brindisi L</territory>
<territory>CBA Reggio di Calabria</territory>
<territory>VEN Venice</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>M: Baltic Express</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
<components>
<territory>HSL Helsinki M</territory>
<territory>SPG St Petersburg M</territory>
<territory>MOW Moscow M</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>N: Vilnius Express</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<territory>WAW Warsaw N</territory>
<territory>VIL Vilnius V</territory>
<territory>SPG St Petersburg N</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>O: Trans Europe Express</name>
<bonus>7</bonus>
<components>
<territory>PAR Paris O</territory>
<territory>BRU Brussels O</territory>
<territory>KLN Köln</territory>
<territory>PRG Prague O</territory>
<territory>WAW Warsaw O</territory>
<territory>MIN Minsk O</territory>
<territory>MOW Moscow O</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>P: Ukraine Rail</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<territory>MOW Moscow P</territory>
<territory>WAW Warsaw P</territory>
<territory>KEV Kiev P</territory>
<territory>LVV Lvov P</territory>
<territory>ODS Odessa P</territory>
<territory>BUD Budapest P</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<continent>
<name>PAR Paris</name>
<bonus>9</bonus>
<components>
<territory>PAR Paris B</territory>
<territory>PAR Paris C</territory>
<territory>PAR Paris D</territory>
<territory>PAR Paris E</territory>
<territory>PAR Paris H</territory>
<territory>PAR Paris J</territory>
<territory>PAR Paris K</territory>
<territory>PAR Paris O</territory>
</components>
</continent>

<!-- A: British Rail -->

<territory>
<name>GLW Glascow A</name>
<borders>
<border>LVP Liverpool A</border>
<border>SEA Seattle PIO</border>
<border>PDX Portland</border>
</borders>
<coordinates>
<smallx>29</smallx>
<smally>169</smally>
<largex>63</largex>
<largey>217</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>

...

</map>

[yeti_c]

Looks good to me...

C.

[cairnswk]

Looks good to me...

C.

[cairnswk]

Version 24 XML Test

Not centreed yet, but this is what is would look like

[DiM]

put CPH and MLO on top of eachother or the army numbers will clash on triple digits

[cairnswk]

put CPH and MLO on top of eachother or the army numbers will clash on triple digits

Will do.

I don't know if i am happy with the background colours now....nor the line colours....there is no much colour on this map is very glary.

What do others think with all the colours of the army numbers?