Abortion

by **Backglass** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:51 pm

jay_a2j wrote:I'll try to be brief, THOU SHALL NOT KILL
any questions?

Just one...why should we listen to you? Oh yeah...a god told you. You should quit listening to the voices in your head.

by **P Gizzle** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:53 pm

i think everyone should stop being so hard on each other! we are all entitled to our own beliefs.

by **Sammy gags** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:02 pm

i read the bible & found that most of it was poetry about how u should live ur life, i hate it wen ppl act like johovas witnesses & try 2 force religion on2 other ppl, u cant explain stuff with religion cuz u cant explain religion

by **P Gizzle** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:03 pm

i hate people who yell at other people just cuz they don't like their beliefs.

by **Sammy gags** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:22 pm

i just had some of those Jahovas Witnesses come 2 my door trying 2 get me 2 join their religion over the weekend & i told them they had 7 seconds 2 get off my property b4 i shot them all

by **jay_a2j** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:25 pm

slash1890 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
slash1890 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
slash1890 wrote:Jay, you never replied to my post.

What Sammy is trying to say is there's no problem killing life so long as it's not intelligent. A fetus doesn't develop a brain until the end of the first trimester, so what's wrong with killing it before it can think? Don't tell me you're against killing unintelligent life, because I'm pretty sure you've chopped down a tree to celebrate Christmas before.

I'll try to be brief, THOU SHALL NOT KILL

any questions?

Yes. So this does include anything living? Including animals, bugs, and plants?

It includes humans. We were given dominion over the animals.

How's that for tiptoeing sammy?

Specific bible passage, please?

And, you're also saying that there can be a man who enjoys killing animals for fun, skinning them alive and the like, but he's extremely devoted to his church, and he loves god and prays daily. This man would go to heaven?

Genesis 1:26

26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

And, you're also saying that there can be a man who enjoys killing animals for fun, skinning them alive and the like, but he's extremely devoted to his church, and he loves god and prays daily. This man would go to heaven?

No, I'm not saying that, you are.

by **slash1890** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:58 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
slash1890 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
slash1890 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
slash1890 wrote:Jay, you never replied to my post.

What Sammy is trying to say is there's no problem killing life so long as it's not intelligent. A fetus doesn't develop a brain until the end of the first trimester, so what's wrong with killing it before it can think? Don't tell me you're against killing unintelligent life, because I'm pretty sure you've chopped down a tree to celebrate Christmas before.

I'll try to be brief, THOU SHALL NOT KILL

any questions?

Yes. So this does include anything living? Including animals, bugs, and plants?

It includes humans. We were given dominion over the animals.

How's that for tiptoeing sammy?

Specific bible passage, please?

And, you're also saying that there can be a man who enjoys killing animals for fun, skinning them alive and the like, but he's extremely devoted to his church, and he loves god and prays daily. This man would go to heaven?

Genesis 1:26

26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

And, you're also saying that there can be a man who enjoys killing animals for fun, skinning them alive and the like, but he's extremely devoted to his church, and he loves god and prays daily. This man would go to heaven?

No, I'm not saying that, you are.

No, you said that God has no problem with killing animals. So, there would be no penalty for that man's sick addiction, and since he prays and is religious, he would go to heaven.

by **jay_a2j** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:12 pm

Just because one prays and is "religious"does not mean he goes to heaven. A person that is truley out to "do Gods will" wouldn't be "skinning animals alive" for the fun of it. :wink:

by **Sammy gags** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:13 pm

just because the bible & church says that there is a heaven doesnt actually mean that there is one

by **jay_a2j** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:15 pm

Sammy gags wrote:just because the bible & church says that there is a heaven doesnt actually mean that there is one

LOL...ok sammy. Whatever you say. :wink:

by **Sammy gags** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:17 pm

have fun in ur paradise wen u die then

by **jay_a2j** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:19 pm

Sammy gags wrote:have fun in ur paradise wen u die then

Why not come along?

by **Sammy gags** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:20 pm

because it sounds rediculous

by **slash1890** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:27 pm

jay_a2j wrote:Just because one prays and is "religious"does not mean he goes to heaven. A person that is truley out to "do Gods will" wouldn't be "skinning animals alive" for the fun of it.

Why not? There's nothing against it, apparantly.

by **foutballfreek15** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:36 pm

Yes there is its killing animals for the fun of it HTats a sin.

by **jay_a2j** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:38 pm

slash1890 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Just because one prays and is "religious"does not mean he goes to heaven. A person that is truley out to "do Gods will" wouldn't be "skinning animals alive" for the fun of it.

Why not? There's nothing against it, apparantly.

This is where common sense comes in. Although the Bible does not say "don't set a radio on the side of the tub when you bathe", you still shouldn't do it. (for obvious reasons)

by **slash1890** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:39 pm

foutballfreek15 wrote:Yes there is its killing animals for the fun of it HTats a sin.

Oh really? Sorry, I didn't know. Jay must have been lying. How unlike him.

by **jay_a2j** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:41 pm

slash1890 wrote:
foutballfreek15 wrote:Yes there is its killing animals for the fun of it HTats a sin.

Oh really? Sorry, I didn't know. Jay must have been lying. How unlike him.

Any more strawmen? (btw noone lied) :wink:

by **Backglass** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:19 pm

jay_a2j wrote:(btw noone lied)

So did the authors of the novel you cling too...

by **foutballfreek15** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:39 pm

No they didn't the bible is God's holy word, and there something in that called the Ten Commandments, "Thy shall not kill(murder)."

by **Backglass** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:26 pm

foutballfreek15 wrote:No they didn't the bible is God's holy word

So you've been told since you were a child. You've been indoctrinated into a cult. They lied to you, but it's all you know so you believe it. They have pounded it into your head for years. No wonder, really.

It's a book of stories. So is Mother Goose. I suggest you worship a large shoe next. After all, it's very old and many cherish it...so it must be true.

by **jay_a2j** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:46 pm

Backglass wrote:
foutballfreek15 wrote:No they didn't the bible is God's holy word

So you've been told since you were a child. You've been indoctrinated into a cult. They lied to you, but it's all you know so you believe it. They have pounded it into your head for years. No wonder, really.

It's a book of stories. So is Mother Goose. I suggest you worship a large shoe next. After all, it's very old and many cherish it...so it must be true.

You have problems. :roll:

by **Sammy gags** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:47 pm

1st of all a religion is not a cult & second of all they didnt lie 2 them because they also believe it, religion isnt a huge scam like it was in the middle ages, now its more of tradition

by **foutballfreek15** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:52 pm

Wow how do not believe in God? WHo created you and don't give me the crap that evolution did!

by **Backglass** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:52 pm

Sammy gags wrote:1st of all a religion is not a cult & second of all they didnt lie 2 them because they also believe it, religion isnt a huge scam like it was in the middle ages, now its more of tradition

Of course Sammy. That makes perfect sense. :lol:

Thank you for setting me on the straight and narrow path.

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