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Abortion Right or wrong?

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Postby owheelj on Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:48 am

This survey is bogus.

I am pro choice - pro choice does not mean that I think abortion is right or wrong, it means I won't judge people who think that it is ok in their circumstances. I don't claim to be so knowledgable of the world that I can make decisions for other people. I think clearly the issue of abortion is so contenscious that you have to allow people the freedom to choose. It's clear that it is impossible to really know who is right or wrong so people should be allowed to make their own personal decision. Would I want my girlfriend to get an abortion? Probably not - and maybe I would find it hard to continue a relationship with her if she did; it's hard to really know the answer to a hypothetical like that. However I strongly feel that we should have the right to make that decision and not people who know nothing of our lives or the circumstances in which this hypothetical abortion would take place.

I also think any true Christian would have to be pro-choice because although the bible fairly clearly says the abortion is murder and a sin, it also says very clearly that God gave us free will and especially free will to sin and I think that's probably one of the most fundamental aspects to Christianity and I think Christians need to allow people the free will to sin and not to be Christians if they don't want to be. Obviously the Bible says that you should tell these people they're doing the wrong thing - but it also says that it is wrong to force religious beliefs onto other people. If you're Christian, by all means tell people what you think is right and wrong but trying to force them only to do the right thing is clearly against God's will.

This is why secularity is so important and should be supported by religious people as well as by athiests - so that the law is not influenced by religious views and so that people of other religious views are not oppressed by the religious views of the people in power.
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Postby Evil Pope on Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:59 am

Cheesemore wrote:what about rape? I really don't have an opinion, i just like to mess with people

Two wrongs don't make a right.. But neither does one.. Hmm..
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Postby hendy on Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:16 am

They had sex and put themselves at risk. WRONG STOP KILLING LIVES
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Postby mightyal on Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:46 am

Abortion is legal in England. Murder is illegal. Therefore (this isn't rocket science here kiddies), abortion is not murder.
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Postby foutballfreek15 on Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:13 pm

No because abortion stops a beating heart, therefore, it's murder!
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Postby jay_a2j on Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:23 pm

owheelj wrote:I am pro choice - pro choice does not mean that I think abortion is right or wrong, it means I won't judge people who think that it is ok in their circumstances.




That is a total cop out!

Can you judge if child molestation is wrong?

Can you judge if murder is wrong?

Can you judge if racism is wrong?


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Postby P Gizzle on Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:25 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
owheelj wrote:I am pro choice - pro choice does not mean that I think abortion is right or wrong, it means I won't judge people who think that it is ok in their circumstances.




That is a total cop out!

Can you judge if child molestation is wrong?

Can you judge if murder is wrong?

Can you judge if racism is wrong?


"He who does not stand for something, will fall for anything"



what he's trying to say is, if they think that there is no other option, then do what you want. they have to live with their decision. i don't exactly agree with abortion but it is a free country. they're the ones who have to live with their decision
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Postby jay_a2j on Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:29 pm

This country is not as "free" as you think. It's a matter of morality. And regardless of its legallity it is morally wrong. No man made law is above God's law.
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Postby P Gizzle on Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:30 pm

i totally agree, but the law makers arent gonna change anything, so it's up to personal morals. it depends on your faith
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Postby reverend_kyle on Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:38 pm

Believe it or not jay not everyone is of your religion.
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Postby jay_a2j on Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:50 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:Believe it or not jay not everyone is of your religion.




Believe it or not kyle, everyone still must adhear to God's law.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:55 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:Believe it or not jay not everyone is of your religion.




Believe it or not kyle, everyone still must adhear to God's law.



Believe it or not some people dont want to follow rules from some imaginary being.
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Postby jay_a2j on Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:57 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:Believe it or not some people dont want to follow rules from some imaginary being.


Well, unluckily for them, God has a place for those who reject Him. :cry:
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Postby Machiavelli on Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:04 pm

So jay, if you have a daughter wheo gets d at the age of 13 you want her to have the rapists child?
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Postby hendy on Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:07 pm

foutballfreek15 wrote:No because abortion stops a beating heart, therefore, it's murder!


good call!
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Postby hendy on Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:07 pm

Machiavelli wrote:So jay, if you have a daughter wheo gets d at the age of 13 you want her to have the rapists child?


she should have thought about it b4 having sex.
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Postby jay_a2j on Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:10 pm

Machiavelli wrote:So jay, if you have a daughter wheo gets d at the age of 13 you want her to have the rapists child?



Killing a child for the sins of the Father? Um no, adoption is an option. :wink:
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Postby slash1890 on Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:23 pm

Abortion is not wrong.

Let them do what they want to do.
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Postby foutballfreek15 on Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:35 pm

No because it kills a baby, what if that baby would of found the cure to AIDS or became the next great president?
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Postby reverend_kyle on Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:40 pm

hendy wrote:
Machiavelli wrote:So jay, if you have a daughter wheo gets d at the age of 13 you want her to have the rapists child?


she should have thought about it b4 having sex.



HAHAHAHHAAHAHHA! even stupider than you calling al american.



Girls dont decide on rape... thats unconsensual sex being had with them.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:41 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
Machiavelli wrote:So jay, if you have a daughter wheo gets d at the age of 13 you want her to have the rapists child?



Killing a child for the sins of the Father? Um no, adoption is an option. :wink:


So you want a rapists heir... living in a tough situation as an orphanage that makes him prone to crime?
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Postby jay_a2j on Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:03 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Machiavelli wrote:So jay, if you have a daughter wheo gets d at the age of 13 you want her to have the rapists child?



Killing a child for the sins of the Father? Um no, adoption is an option. :wink:


So you want a rapists heir... living in a tough situation as an orphanage that makes him prone to crime?



"prone to crime"? You ooze with liberalism. Common sense this way :arrow:
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Postby Sammy gags on Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:12 pm

i dont see y abortion is a crime, its more of preventing a life than taking one, but if i was a girl & had a kid i wouldnt get an abortion because u will never 4get that child that had potential
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Postby jay_a2j on Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:05 pm

Sammy gags wrote:i dont see y abortion is a crime, its more of preventing a life than taking one, but if i was a girl & had a kid i wouldnt get an abortion because u will never 4get that child that had potential




condoms is preventing a life. Once the sperm fertilizes the egg its a life. Abortion ends a life not prevents one.
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Postby slash1890 on Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:15 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
Sammy gags wrote:i dont see y abortion is a crime, its more of preventing a life than taking one, but if i was a girl & had a kid i wouldnt get an abortion because u will never 4get that child that had potential




condoms is preventing a life. Once the sperm fertilizes the egg its a life. Abortion ends a life not prevents one.


It's not really intelligent life until it's brain is fully developed, after the first trimester I believe? In my moral system, performing an abortion is okay until it has a functioning brain.

As far as banning abortion goes, no, it should not be banned. People should be allowed to do what they want to do.
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