Conquer Club

Tupence wrote:PLEASE JOIN IF YOU CAN TAKE YOUR TURNS MORE THAN ONCE A DAY
(i.e. signing on more than once per day, or staying on for a long period of time)

This is Tupence’s Birthday Bonanza!

The tournament is designed for 60 players, but I will take more if there is interest, or a minimum of 48.

As long as 48 players have signed up, the tournament will begin on August 1st (one guess why).

Premium only please, with 98% attendance or higher.

This tournament will reward players who can win on a variety of maps, and those who join and finish their games quickly.

There will not be a set number of games; instead there will be a set number of days!

show: Settings

There will be “rounds” of 10 days where play is continuous, with play-offs being played without time-limit at the end of each “round”.

Based on the number of players, here’s how many measured days of play there will be:

show: Length of Tournament

For ease of explanation, I will use the 60-player model for all further details.

Players will be divided into 5 divisions of 12 according to their CC score at the time of the tournament starting. Division 1 will be the Top 12 players, Division 2 will be players 13-24, etc.

For 10 days, the players will play as many games as they can, including a mix of 2-4 player, standard, terminator and assassin, to be decided by http://www.random.org (for further details please see below).

Each game will earn players points, and at the end of the 10 days the Divisions will be frozen.

show: End of Round

At the end of every third round (after play-offs etc), the bottom division will be eliminated from the tournament. Play-offs, promotions and relegations will happen as normal.

Once we are down to just one division of 12 players, a double-length round will be played. At the end of this round the player who tops the division will be declared the winner!

Now the complicated bit!

show: Joining Games

show: Deadbeating

show: Missing Turns

show: Slow Opponents

show: Long Games

show: Simultaneous Games

show: Sending out Games

show: Settings and Maps

show: Scoring

If you have any questions at all please ask!

show: Players List

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show: Round 3 Results

skillfusniper33 wrote:Thanks for taking this over JoJo

kennys777 wrote:good tourney all...With the delay I get bumped into the division that will be wiped. Without the delay I would have won my round, but this extra time for everyone and being put into games with deadbeats, made me lose...LAME

Tupence, do NOT ask me to any more of your tourneys!

JoJo123 wrote:

kennys777 wrote:good tourney all...With the delay I get bumped into the division that will be wiped. Without the delay I would have won my round, but this extra time for everyone and being put into games with deadbeats, made me lose...LAME

Tupence, do NOT ask me to any more of your tourneys!

Have you looked at the scores (aka. the 3rd post)? You aren't going to be relegated so you won't be eliminated after this round. So the delay has caused no harm to you and your life is safe in the tournament until round 6 at least. However, if you wish to leave, let me know so I can keep a member of division 4 from leaving the tournament.

FYI, Tupence is a great tournament organizer. He runs some of the coolest tournaments on the site so you will be missing out.

JoJo123 wrote:It's 10 games from the beginning of the round. The round began when tupence started round 3. I counted all the games from then (they counted as 5 days). I continued on with his plan of how to finish the round for a shortened period of 5 more days, which I allowed 6 days for.

The misunderstanding is that you have 10 days to finish as many games as you can in a round. Not 10 days for each game you receive.

acores2005 wrote:

JoJo123 wrote:It's 10 games from the beginning of the round. The round began when tupence started round 3. I counted all the games from then (they counted as 5 days). I continued on with his plan of how to finish the round for a shortened period of 5 more days, which I allowed 6 days for.

The misunderstanding is that you have 10 days to finish as many games as you can in a round. Not 10 days for each game you receive.

Sorry but I dont agree with you!
First, the games:
Game 5940166 - 2 players, initialized at 2009-11-16 10:04:42, end at 2009-11-18 21:39:19 (2 days), winner: acores2005 - 1 point
Game 5918201 - 2 players, initialized at 2009-11-12 18:42:37, end at 2009-11-15 00:36:01 (3 days), winner: acores2005 - 1 point
Game 5918199 - 4 players, Assassin, initialized at 2009-11-13 19:11:55, end at 2009-11-19 12:24:32, 1 missing turn (2009-11-15 23:52:31 - Gutshots missed a turn)(1 missing turn = 1 day), 5 days, 6 days with missing turn, winner: acores2005 - 5 points

Total points to acores2005 - 7 points

My beliefs are the followings:
1 - At Round 3 Division 4, I played 3 games that I won, having a total of 7 points;
2 - According to the rules «Long Games», none of them surpassed the 6 days of play. As a mine rule and respect for the organizers, as soon as I get a PM, I enter the game, I do not blame my opponents are late to enjoy the games or missed 1 turn (1 turn = 1 day), I received PM at 12 November and I was always the first one to enter the games;
3 - After careful reading at the amendments to the arrangement of divisions and there is nothing to explain my remove of Division 4!!!
4 - Why player ubersky (7 points) advanced to the Division 3? The same with players brian c murder and jabkabatat (6 points)? I have 7 points and not have advanced!!!!!!

So I demand to re-instate the legality of this tournament

JoJo123 wrote:

acores2005 wrote:

JoJo123 wrote:It's 10 games from the beginning of the round. The round began when tupence started round 3. I counted all the games from then (they counted as 5 days). I continued on with his plan of how to finish the round for a shortened period of 5 more days, which I allowed 6 days for.

The misunderstanding is that you have 10 days to finish as many games as you can in a round. Not 10 days for each game you receive.

Sorry but I dont agree with you!
First, the games:
Game 5940166 - 2 players, initialized at 2009-11-16 10:04:42, end at 2009-11-18 21:39:19 (2 days), winner: acores2005 - 1 point
Game 5918201 - 2 players, initialized at 2009-11-12 18:42:37, end at 2009-11-15 00:36:01 (3 days), winner: acores2005 - 1 point
Game 5918199 - 4 players, Assassin, initialized at 2009-11-13 19:11:55, end at 2009-11-19 12:24:32, 1 missing turn (2009-11-15 23:52:31 - Gutshots missed a turn)(1 missing turn = 1 day), 5 days, 6 days with missing turn, winner: acores2005 - 5 points

Total points to acores2005 - 7 points

My beliefs are the followings:
1 - At Round 3 Division 4, I played 3 games that I won, having a total of 7 points;
2 - According to the rules «Long Games», none of them surpassed the 6 days of play. As a mine rule and respect for the organizers, as soon as I get a PM, I enter the game, I do not blame my opponents are late to enjoy the games or missed 1 turn (1 turn = 1 day), I received PM at 12 November and I was always the first one to enter the games;
3 - After careful reading at the amendments to the arrangement of divisions and there is nothing to explain my remove of Division 4!!!
4 - Why player ubersky (7 points) advanced to the Division 3? The same with players brian c murder and jabkabatat (6 points)? I have 7 points and not have advanced!!!!!!

So I demand to re-instate the legality of this tournament

The 5/6 day round began on the 12th. I allowed the 12th and 13th to be day 6 (so that I could solve any disappearing player issues). 14th = day 7, 15th = day 8, 16th = day 9, 17th = day 10. You got points for the first 2 games you played in the shortened end to the round because they both finished on or before the 17th. The last game finished on the 19th so it doesn't count.
Also, if I'm understanding the rules correctly (which might not be true) a missed turn does not extend the number of days. The player who missed/didn't join within 24 hours gets negative points.

I'll ask for a Tupence ruling. But I think I'm right . However, I will humbly apologize if I am incorrect and you'll be back in.

Tupence wrote:

JoJo123 wrote:

acores2005 wrote:

JoJo123 wrote:It's 10 games from the beginning of the round. The round began when tupence started round 3. I counted all the games from then (they counted as 5 days). I continued on with his plan of how to finish the round for a shortened period of 5 more days, which I allowed 6 days for.

The misunderstanding is that you have 10 days to finish as many games as you can in a round. Not 10 days for each game you receive.

Sorry but I dont agree with you!
First, the games:
Game 5940166 - 2 players, initialized at 2009-11-16 10:04:42, end at 2009-11-18 21:39:19 (2 days), winner: acores2005 - 1 point
Game 5918201 - 2 players, initialized at 2009-11-12 18:42:37, end at 2009-11-15 00:36:01 (3 days), winner: acores2005 - 1 point
Game 5918199 - 4 players, Assassin, initialized at 2009-11-13 19:11:55, end at 2009-11-19 12:24:32, 1 missing turn (2009-11-15 23:52:31 - Gutshots missed a turn)(1 missing turn = 1 day), 5 days, 6 days with missing turn, winner: acores2005 - 5 points

Total points to acores2005 - 7 points

My beliefs are the followings:
1 - At Round 3 Division 4, I played 3 games that I won, having a total of 7 points;
2 - According to the rules «Long Games», none of them surpassed the 6 days of play. As a mine rule and respect for the organizers, as soon as I get a PM, I enter the game, I do not blame my opponents are late to enjoy the games or missed 1 turn (1 turn = 1 day), I received PM at 12 November and I was always the first one to enter the games;
3 - After careful reading at the amendments to the arrangement of divisions and there is nothing to explain my remove of Division 4!!!
4 - Why player ubersky (7 points) advanced to the Division 3? The same with players brian c murder and jabkabatat (6 points)? I have 7 points and not have advanced!!!!!!

So I demand to re-instate the legality of this tournament

The 5/6 day round began on the 12th. I allowed the 12th and 13th to be day 6 (so that I could solve any disappearing player issues). 14th = day 7, 15th = day 8, 16th = day 9, 17th = day 10. You got points for the first 2 games you played in the shortened end to the round because they both finished on or before the 17th. The last game finished on the 19th so it doesn't count.
Also, if I'm understanding the rules correctly (which might not be true) a missed turn does not extend the number of days. The player who missed/didn't join within 24 hours gets negative points.

I'll ask for a Tupence ruling. But I think I'm right . However, I will humbly apologize if I am incorrect and you'll be back in.

Whoa...

It all looks very confusing, but I think JoJo has got it right.

Missed turns don't extend the length of the game at all - the idea is that the players who miss turns end up slowing down all of their own games, and therefore don't score enough points to stay in the tournament. The other players should have enough other games going to avoid being eliminated.

The length of the round begins when the first games are sent out, and the idea is that you cram in as many games as you can into that space of time. This round is my fault for leaving it in the middle and complicating matters, but based on what JoJo said at the start of the second part of Round 3 (when she took over), only games completed on or before the 17th should count.

Hope that clears everything up!

JoJo123 wrote:harvmax and heatz have advanced to the next divisions. Round 4 is ready to start but I'm going to hold off until next week so that we avoid holiday issues. Be ready to play fast once the games start!