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Canadian Dictionary

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:04 am
by owheelj
Does anybody have a Canadian Dictionary? Preferably a full version rather than an abridged or concise version.

If so could you please look up the word "learnt" and scan it or take a picture and post it here.

Apparantly despite the fact that the word is in Australian, American and British dictionaries somebody is trying to tell me that the word doesn't exist in Canada and I don't believe them. If you have a Canadian dictionary and it's not there can you please post up the details of the dictionary too (maybe even a photo would be nice).

Cheers

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:40 am
by jay_a2j
Hmmmm don't know. We say "learned" in the US. :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:45 am
by owheelj
lol yes I know that. It's not a case of if you say it or not. It's a question of is it real word. The American Heritage Dictionary has it listed, as does the Oxford dictionary and the Macquire Dictionary. Also at least 10 canadian websites use the word including government organisations, sporting organistaions, charities, newspapers and journalists. There is also an amature online Canadian dictionary that contains it.

Apparantly this isn't proof and is arguement that "I'm from Canada and I say it doesn't exist" is a good counter arguement.

I MUST WIN! ;)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:24 pm
by KoolBak
I know "oot" and "aboot" are there.....and a fun additional description for "hoser" and "eh".

Canadian is fun!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:12 pm
by MeDeFe
In fact arguments along the lines of "I'm a native speaker and I say it exists/doesn't exist" are among the worst one can imagine.

If the native speaker is a linguist with access to a really good descriptive dictionary and says this after checking it... ok. But then he'd probably formulate it in another way.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:15 pm
by Stopper
What, the Canadians say "oot" and "aboot"? I thought it was just the Scottish and very north English who said that. Bugger me. Learnt something new today.

EDIT: Just googled, and found a Canadian blog called "Oot and aboot". Wow.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:25 pm
by Jolly Roger
My Canadian dictionary does contain the word "learnt". Unfortunately, I am still living in the 20th century and have no idea how to scan anything (although I do have a scanner) and not a clue how to download pictures from a camera (although I do have a digital camera).

On a side note, hoser is NOT listed. The root verb "hose" is listed, meaning "get the better of, especially by unfair means; cheat" So, like, don't be a hoser, eh?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:37 pm
by KoolBak
LOL!!! You got it buddy!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:35 am
by owheelj
That's great to know Jolly Roger.

Is there anybody who can post the picture?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:10 am
by KoolBak
Honestly, being fairly well read and edu-muh-kated, I AM amazed "learnt" is a real word...I thot that was one of those things you only heard in lowbrow skits....anyhow, I cannot find an online Canadian dictionary, but every dictionary I check has the damnable word in it.......

I LEARNT sumpin neu, gosh dernit.....

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:24 pm
by D.IsleRealBrown
Greatest.

Troll.

Ever.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:03 pm
by KoolBak
Are you calling me a troll? As I understand it, that is not a nice thing....if so, explain yourself please - if not, nevermind.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:12 pm
by Jolly Roger
owheelj wrote:That's great to know Jolly Roger.

Is there anybody who can post the picture?


Have you got money riding on this or something?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:14 pm
by thejackofhearts
I hear the word learnt all the time... of course i live in Texas.

You hear a lot of things here, like witchadidja, as is, you didn't bring your pickup truck witchadidja?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:51 pm
by owheelj
Jolly Roger wrote:
owheelj wrote:That's great to know Jolly Roger.

Is there anybody who can post the picture?


Have you got money riding on this or something?


yes!

Re: Canadian Dictionary

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:48 am
by D.IsleRealBrown
owheelj wrote:Does anybody have a Canadian Dictionary? Preferably a full version rather than an abridged or concise version.

If so could you please look up the word "learnt" and scan it or take a picture and post it here.

Apparantly despite the fact that the word is in Australian, American and British dictionaries somebody is trying to tell me that the word doesn't exist in Canada and I don't believe them. If you have a Canadian dictionary and it's not there can you please post up the details of the dictionary too (maybe even a photo would be nice).

Cheers


Greatest.

Troll.

Ever.

Just to clarify.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:11 am
by KoolBak
Thank you-

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:49 am
by owheelj
Who is the greatest troll ever? Me?

I post on this forum legitimately - I play conquer club too!

Or do you mean me on the other forum? I post on that legimately too and so does the guy I'm argueing with - even if he doesn't know what he's talking about.

I should clarify some stuff though.

He now claims that "learnt" is a word but that it is word that it is grammatically incorrect to use in writing (but fine to use in speech).

I have quoted Milton, Tolstoy and Shakespeare at him and he has rejected those as too old (they were grammatically correct when written apparantly but aren't any more :shock: ) and in the most recent development I quoted from the ruling of a Canadian Surpreme Court and made the point that if it is ok to use the word "learnt" in that context it is probably acceptable to use it on an internet forum.

I've obviously gone to too much work to win such an unconstructive and pointless arguement but I feel that the guy is such a trucking click head that when I finally get him to either admit that he's wrong or leave the forum that that will be my most satisfying internet moment in my life.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:29 pm
by Phx99
KoolBak wrote:I know "oot" and "aboot" are there.....and a fun additional description for "hoser" and "eh".

Canadian is fun!!


KoolBak, my darling one....bite me! Another good Canadian saying.

:lol:

You know I'm only kidding, right? :wink:

Phx99

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:19 pm
by KoolBak
Phoxy...I have missed you! Everythink ok? I thot of you when I posted that! LOL!!!!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:22 pm
by KoolBak
By the way...you got a good doggy dentist up there in the north pole?