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Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:01 pm**

Was just reading a bit of clickbait that Tesla stock has recouped its losses from earlier in the year, and Musk is back up to being worth 270 billion, more than Pepsi or MacDonalds.

Was wondering how people feel about Musk around here. I have mixed feelings myself, and I wonder how other people feel.

On the negative side, he's a conceited, arrogant prick. He's obviously been hanging with some right-wing jerkoffs, including the Big Orangutan. He likes to retweet idiot conspiracy theories (although to his credit, he has deleted some of those once they were proven false.) He's definitely a fiscal hypocrite, criticizing government corporate welfare while his most profitable venture, SpaceX, derives the vast majority of its profits from government handouts.

On the positive side, I think his commitment to space exploration is genuine, and I think he's done more than anyone else to reignite our drive to colonize space. Yes, he's the promoter, not the engineer, but in the grand scheme of things, the promoter is The Man That Counts and the engineers can be replaced. I think he's a genuine visionary, and while Tesla is undoubtedly overvalued, it sure isn't worthless, either. A lot of his projects aren't going well, but that's the nature of pushing forward. (How many bad lightbulbs did Edison make before he made a good one?) I like the way he's spread his seed around to women from different ethnic backgrounds to maximize his chances of making a difference in the human genome. And speaking of making a difference in the genome, I agree with him that having your own son cut his nuts off and terminate an entire branch has got to be a feeling akin to watching him die.

So, yeah. I have mixed feelings, but more on the plus side than the minus side.

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:18 pm**

Libertarians are cool.

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:49 pm**

HitRed wrote:Libertarians are cool.

Also Libertarians are the real liberals/freethinkers.

What is now usually called 'liberal' is actually closer to Khmer Rouge Left-wing Fascism.

..and yeah, Elon is mostly okay. I do like that he's not afraid to just lay it out straight.

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2024 1:17 pm**

Always had mixed feelings, think he is a great builder of things/project manager. Recent interview where he basically admitted that having a trans kid is what red pilled him into believing 'eradicating the woke mind virus' was more important than his previous life mission of 'saving the planet greenhouse gas emissions/finding a way off this planet cus we are fucked' was enlightening in explaining his image change over the last 4 years.

I think he is often misguided, and clearly a narcissist... but you have to respect his drive and I understand that the best builders of things almost have to have narcissistic traits to push them through the times where everyone else says you are going to fail. So yeah, often don't agree with him but I still respect him and thing he's been a net positive for the planet.

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:21 pm**

Votanic wrote:
HitRed wrote:Libertarians are cool.

Also Libertarians are the real liberals/freethinkers.

What is now usually called 'liberal' is actually closer to Khmer Rouge Left-wing Fascism.

..and yeah, Elon is mostly okay. I do like that he's not afraid to just lay it out straight.

Well, this libertarian moved from California to Texas. Less heavy hand on businesses.

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:38 pm**

Yes, Elon Musk is a brilliant thinker and engineer.

And yes, lately, he has been more willing to share his right-leaning ideas. I am not sure the purchase of Twitter (that he named X [I think that re-naming is a mistake]) was a great financial move, but I think he did it mostly to project and share more of his ideas closer to his personal beliefs.

He is a visionary and likely narcisstic. As Duk or Mookie said, a visionary is often narcisstic to push his ideas forward in the face of opposition from many persons and perspectives. (Anyone ever read about Steve Jobs? Similar visionary and egotist, imo). Tesla and SpaceX are visionary companies and endeavors.

I have not kept up with Musk and his expressions of his personal and right-leaning views, to be frank.

Musk has done lots for electric cars and space exploration. Net gain by humanity due to Musk. Overall, I agree with Duk and Mookie.

Posted: **Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:34 am**

If it wasn't for Starlink, I would have had to stop playing CC all of last year (remote travelling) and for most of this year (our home cable died and they demanded over $1000 to replace a $25 cable).

But, he also won't sell a cybertruck in Australia unless we start driving on the wrong side of the road.

Posted: **Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:00 am**

----------No benefit to Humanity.........
---------ASK/TELL THE HURRICANE VICTIMS THAT , THE U.S. GOVERNMENT ISN'T HELPING.....
---------ELON 8-)

...

ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)

Posted: **Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:51 am**

While I’m impress of what he has done, reading his life steps is quiet genuine.

However, putting that much power to one single person could be dangerous. Think about years ago movies that were purely Sci-Fi and seeing Media tycoon owning all around him

Worth to note he owns the most powerful Space program, as well as the biggest solar system (including cars), he owns one of the strongest and highly visited Social Media platform, lastly having the most advance IA business and with correlation to human being and its potential problem solving such as brain illness, organ reconstruction, and more…plasma organ rebuilt will become obsolete before it comes out accessible to us, and by IA control for our body from his company.

All that to say, I’m happy to be alive in those time seeing this technology progress and novelty, just concern it all comes from one man that not only bring the idea, but actually own all that in the palm of his hands.

Posted: **Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:39 am**

Mad777 wrote:While I’m impress of what he has done, reading his life steps is quiet genuine.

However, putting that much power to one single person could be dangerous. Think about years ago movies that were purely Sci-Fi and seeing Media tycoon owning all around him

Worth to note he owns the most powerful Space program, as well as the biggest solar system (including cars), he owns one of the strongest and highly visited Social Media platform, lastly having the most advance IA business and with correlation to human being and its potential problem solving such as brain illness, organ reconstruction, and more…plasma organ rebuilt will become obsolete before it comes out accessible to us, and by IA control for our body from his company.

All that to say, I’m happy to be alive in those time seeing this technology progress and novelty, just concern it all comes from one man that not only bring the idea, but actually own all that in the palm of his hands.

He has been described as a likely Bond villain, ...even that name!? Aurus Goldfinger has nothing on Dr. Muskelon.

And now for something completely different...
Coty vs. Jovan ...!

Posted: **Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:30 am**

Sorry, but Musk is a nutcase.

Posted: **Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:33 pm**

I hate to agree with PR, but ... yeah, he's a nutcase. A harmless and well-meaning nutcase, but a nutcase nonetheless. (And perhaps a harmless and well-meaning nutcase is better than a malevolent and malign nutcase in control of vast resources like Dick Cheney or Haim Saban.)

He's previously said he self-diagnosed himself with Asperger's syndrome and, while I'm often skeptical of these self-diagnoses, I'm inclined to agree there's something going on with him that - if not that -is something else. I certainly appreciate the way he's using his money to the benefit of causes I support (i.e. he's now giving $47 to every swing state voter), but that doesn't make him any less nutty.

Just the stammering way he talks, his bizarre personal life, the way he goes "all in" on everything and in the most public way possible ... it's all very weird.

Posted: **Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:43 pm**

Pack Rat wrote:

Sorry, but Musk is a nutcase.

I don't have time to watch the whole thing right now. Can you give a gist of what the nutcase things he said were?

Posted: **Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:33 pm**

I think he makes for a great cheerleader.
Guess i leave it at that since i care more for democracy then i care for his silly cars or if hes blowing up a rocket on his way to Mars.

Posted: **Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:53 pm**

Musk smoking pot on Rogan's podcast.

Posted: **Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:12 pm**

Last night Musk unveiled an army of robots he built that walk like Joe Biden.

Posted: **Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:17 pm**

Posted: **Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:55 pm**

saxitoxin wrote:

Change is inevitable, ...therefore any successful resistance to change is a rare skill and asset.
Good luck All.

Posted: **Tue Oct 15, 2024 6:50 pm**

------------MUSK MAKES SPACE TRAVEL HISTORY :!:

...
------------Musk has become Space's version of Orville and Wilbur Wright (Brothers)...What they were to flight on Earth...Musk has become in Outer Space....
------------ Musk got tired of, collecting used boosters, when they separate from the launched Space Craft....Most end up in an Ocean....
----------- Musk yesterday, made the 1st Booster, take off, then had it come back, and land on the launch pad, it just took off from...Which will save money, in building new ones...He can reuse boosters over and over again and again...
----------- Soon he will invent , a Space Craft, that takes off on its own, and lands...Like a Star Trek, shuttle...Like Elon or not....He has just advanced Humanity so great, being only one person...What ever Elon touches turns to GOLD....All he did was , I am tired of tracking down boosters...Solves the problem...In a blink of an eye...There is nothing Elon, can't do...Well, with in reason...Not things like raising the dead etc...Only JESUS/GOD/THE HOLY SPIRIT can do that...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)

.....Thanks to Elon, we might be able to travel far enough and shake hands with THE HOLY TRINITY, Alive...

:):)

Posted: **Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:48 pm**

ConfederateSS wrote:He has just advanced Humanity so great,

Correction: He is advancing technologies that will further humanity's replacement.
...which is fine, those bipedal apes have (very imperfectly) served their purpose.

Posted: **Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:40 pm**

Pack Rat wrote:

Sorry, but Musk is a nutcase.

Actually, you're a nutcase.

Posted: **Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:20 pm**

These points aren't mutually exclusive

Posted: **Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:30 pm**

Omspah91 wrote:
Pack Rat wrote:

Sorry, but Musk is a nutcase.

Actually, you're a nutcase.

But anyway, relative scrotality aside....

Posted: **Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:28 am**

Founders Fund CMO Mike Solana says Elon Musk and Tim Cook are steering Trump to declare an all-out trade war against the EU if he wins.

Mike Solana wrote:Tech’s Trump card

Wednesday, less than 24 hours after EU regulators announced they would exempt X from their onerous Digital Markets Act, they interrupted the tech industry’s brief celebration with an escalation of their attack.

X, they announced, would now be pursued under the Digital Services Act for a variety of draconian, speech-related infractions. But — and here’s the crazy part — three totally separate Musk-founded companies could also be fined for X’s “infractions”: SpaceX, Neuralink, and the Boring Company. Obviously, this is just a shakedown, and of a kind we’ve seen for years, which Trump addressed at home.

According to the former president, Tim Cook called him over an $18 billion EU “fine” (again: literally extortion). But unlike Biden, Trump actually seemed to care. This is because he is 1) obsessed with trade, and 2) now has high-profile support in tech. What mean? If he wins the election, get your popcorn. It’s gonna be a trade war.

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