Duk you usually make solid responses worth answering, this holds true here.
Dukasaur wrote:Generally speaking, insulting people is a bad way to begin a discussion. It certainly puts one's motives in doubt.
Lets just say that while I am still new to the forums, I have learned what to anticipate. This thread delivered big time in that expectation lol.
Dukasaur wrote:It sounds like a big number, but for perspective, look at the chart comparing it to some other things the U.S. spends on. $800 billion for "defense" of a country that nobody is attacking! $700 to bail out bankers that should have been hung from lamp-posts in 2008! $75 billion seem like small potatoes once you compare it to other things the USG spends money on.
Its sounds big because it is big. You're correct on scale/percentages, and I think we've allowed the crooks to get away with far too much because the public has been taught to become desensitized to it. I don't fall into that category.
Dukasaur wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I detect sarcasm in that statement. Personally, I have a more positive opinion of the Ukrainians.
I hold much respect for the courage and the strong will of slavs in general, and Ukrainians specifically. But in this scenario I think they are being duped hard and being used, as cannon fodder no doubt. And the west doesn't care one iota for how many of them are butchered. You don't need to look any further to find how true this is, than how others have replied to this thread.
Dukasaur wrote:Back in ancient times when I was a libertarian, we used to have a saying that government will always take as much of your money as it can get away with. You can debate how to spend it, but you can't tie spending to taxes. The government will find something to spend money on, and if they spend less on x it just means they will spend more on y.
That is fairly realistic, I am not at this point yet. I still refuse to surrender rational policy choices to irrational politicos bent on extremes and madness. Those bankers that you think should have been hung back in 2008, and I won't disagree with that one bit, are calling the shots and telling all the bribed politicos what to do. I don't see this Ukraine crisis as being different in the least.
Now on to Jimboston.
You stated you don't care how many Ukrainians die in the effort of containing the Russians.
After all its not good ole American blood of the U. S. of A., right?
and you want to label ME as the fox news viewer? lol
Back 60 years ago we had this thing called 'The Cuban Missile Crisis', maybe you've heard of it.
The Soviets parked WMD's 90 miles off our coast, and we threatened military action to remove them.
Not sure how you feel about that incident, but I think the U.S. was absolutely in the right.
Now as I already stated previously, the Warsaw Pact was dissolved. The Soviet Union was dissolved.
The West is still trying to expand NATO.
So now the U.S. builds dozens of Biolabs in Ukraine right off the Russian border?
You know, the stuff in those labs that we were afraid might fall into Russian hands. Go rewatch the video posted previously.
So Russia invades Ukraine in 2022.
Makes perfect sense to me, especially after what a single U.S. funded biolab did in Wuhan in 2020.
Russia is fighting 50 miles away from their border. We're fighting 5,000 miles away.
I don't really care what sources you get or claim to get your data from, they've turned you into a full blown amoral fascist.
Hopefully you rethink your position and stop lusting for more dead Ukrainians just so you can get your fix of armchair patriotism.
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:56 pm
