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Posted: **Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:14 pm**

I interviewed Donald Trump in 2019, we became fascinated by what the little red button did. Eventually Trump pressed it, and a butler swiftly brought in a Diet Coke on a silver platter.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/962437/biden-removes-trumps-diet-coke-button-from-oval-office

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:24 am**

I'm surprised he didn't have a pink button that would summon instantly cheeseburgers

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:31 pm**

wouldn't it have been cheaper if he would have just repurposed it for something useful rather than just having it completely removed?

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:04 pm**

I totally thought "I would leave the button and it could even be for water or whatever." Then I saw this video. Seems they take out everything and bring in new stuff for the new guy. He probably just didn't think of installing his own button for geritol and prune juice.

Caution, video is political and a bit too anti Drumpht.

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:04 pm**

if you were president, what would you use the red button for llama? I think mine would be to summon a hot masseuse

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:09 pm**

Batphone.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:15 am**

jonesthecurl wrote:Batphone.

but would the police department call you... or would batman call you?

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:42 am**

I guess you are the only one with a good idea for the button so far betiko.

I like the idea of keeping the button. I think I would change what is brought depending on what I was in the mood for that week, since I can't think of any one thing such as Donald's Diet Coke I need a button for.

Possibly decent whisky since that would be appropriate for the station, but I definately don't drink enough to warrant a button for it.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:12 pm**

Clinton loved Mickey D's. Is that considered addictive?

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:41 pm**

The arches are 100% addictive. I know I should never go there yet here we are, I get the occasional Big Mac. In fact it makes me angry and I am disappointed in myself, because in my city they are not even cheap.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:09 pm**

2dimes wrote:The arches are 100% addictive. I know I should never go there yet here we are, I get the occasional Big Mac. In fact it makes me angry and I am disappointed in myself, because in my city they are not even cheap.

Their breakfast is good for early morning road trips, I'll give you that. After 10AM, it is pure desperation only that will make me eat there.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:18 pm**

I haven't eaten at one of those since my son went to a birthday party at one back when I was still in the UK.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:56 pm**

It's not even secret that they have labs working on making the food taste certain ways.

I read an article about micro engineering. Who knows what that does to us.

Funny, I had quit going for several years and ended up going back for monopoly. Turns out it was rigged to limit winners.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:43 am**

2dimes wrote:It's not even secret that they have labs working on making the food taste certain ways.

I read an article about micro engineering. Who knows what that does to us.

Funny, I had quit going for several years and ended up going back for monopoly. Turns out it was rigged to limit winners.

duh.... what are you, 5? do you think macdonalds would make the monopoly game in a way that could make them go bankrupt? do you think loteries casinos and bookmakers are not guaranteed to win at the end of the day?

US big macs are the worse big macs on the planet, or anything in US macdonalds. I was quite surprised to see how trash they are in the US compared to other fast foods. Like BK is pretty much the same taste in europe or in the US. What's going on with US macdonalds? are canadian macdonalds like US ones?

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:11 am**

betiko wrote:
2dimes wrote:Funny, I had quit going for several years and ended up going back for monopoly. Turns out it was rigged to limit winners.

duh.... what are you, 5? do you think macdonalds would make the monopoly game in a way that could make them go bankrupt? do you think loteries casinos and bookmakers are not guaranteed to win at the end of the day?

US big macs are the worse big macs on the planet, or anything in US macdonalds. I was quite surprised to see how trash they are in the US compared to other fast foods. Like BK is pretty much the same taste in europe or in the US. What's going on with US macdonalds? are canadian macdonalds like US ones?

So it (McDonlad’s Monopoly) was rigged AND it wasn’t.

Every game of chance is “rigged” in the sense that it favors the house and in the sense that there is a limit to how much one can win. Games like McDonald’s Monopoly and other “games” associated with retail/restaurant businesses publish up front how many “winning tickets” they are going to make. This is also true of State Lottery scratch-ticket games. They don’t let the computer randomly generate winners. They tell the computer how many winners to make and in what denominations... and then the system produces tickets in a manner that randomly inserts the winners in with a bunch of losers.

Computer based games in Vegas and other casinos... games like slot machines and computer based poker or Black Jack... these all have published “odds” that are monitored by the State Gaming Commission. I don’t know (as I have not done it myself) but I have been told that you can actually go to the Casino as ask for the “odds sheet” for the various slots / electronic games in the casino, and that players will choose a Casino (in part) based on the odds they offer. Card games, dice games, or games like Roulette don;t have published odds because they are truly random... but they games are designed in such a way that the odds always favor the house.

Most people wouldn’t call this system “rigged” as it’s all well known.

THAT SAID... there was a scam related to the McDonald’s Monopoly game. The scam was not perpetrated by McDonald’s on the public but by people and subcontractors hired by McDonald’s to run the game and “make sure it was fair”. The people hired to stop scams or cheating were the scammers. There’s a pretty interesting documentary about this.... called “McMillions” on HBO.

https://www.hbo.com/mcmillions

It’s pretty elaborate.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:52 am**

Yeah, that was where I heard about the problem with at least one round of the game Jim. Probably did not effect the Canadian games but still.

Yes bets, I knew the odds are pretty bad without them cheating. Thank you for the Casino tips.

Even only getting drinks and breakfast items with an occasional Big Mac a couple trips a week we end up with the board filled except the last property needed to win things.

It's still addictive to play. That is the problem.

Once when our son was small he was using extra stickers of the same colour to fill up his board. I looked over and got excited for a moment thinking he won something.

betiko wrote:are canadian macdonalds like US ones?

Depending on location they can be as bad or worse. They are better maintained in Canada, the roof won't be leaking. Sometime a few items are very slightly better on the Canadian menu but they are very close to the same thing.

Even my wife will eat a bite of Big Mac in France. Here she gets annoyed when me or our son get one.

I was getting McNuggets for a while last year. They are some odd gelatinous mass. It's like there is barely any chicken in them. Burger King is similar which sucks because when they introduced chicken tenders in the late 1980s they were excellent.

At Wendy's and Carl's Jr you can tell they use actual chicken meat.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:49 pm**

jimboston wrote:
Computer based games in Vegas and other casinos... games like slot machines and computer based poker or Black Jack... these all have published “odds” that are monitored by the State Gaming Commission. I don’t know (as I have not done it myself) but I have been told that you can actually go to the Casino as ask for the “odds sheet” for the various slots / electronic games in the casino, and that players will choose a Casino (in part) based on the odds they offer. Card games, dice games, or games like Roulette don;t have published odds because they are truly random... but they games are designed in such a way that the odds always favor the house.

So casino games (not slot machines but basically everything else) have 'predictable' odds. Generally they don't post them, however they are constant and easy to find. With that said games where you have to make choices of how to play (mainly blackjack, but also 3 card poker and some others) have set odds for payouts, but you can really f*ck yourself or 'beat the odds' by making bad/good decisions. There are two games in casinos that basically have the BEST odds, craps and baccarat.

Craps has one specific bet that is situational where you actually have an slight advantage over the casino. Playing craps properly (maximizing your odds, avoiding all the bad bets) amount to really just sticking to either pass/don’t come bets, or pass/come bets and then backing those at odds when a number is on the board. If you stick to just the basics, the casino advantage stays under 1.5% (98.5% return for players).

baccarat has like a 99% return, and imo is the best game in a casino for players (only 1% casino advantage over the player). Most casinos only put this game in the high roller rooms now, because big time gamblers like the odds but it doesn't make money for the casino very quickly (so they offset that by requiring large minimum bets).

Roulette used to have ok odds when there was just one 'zero' slot, but now virtually all casinos have a 'zero' and a 'double zero' slot which really ruins the return rate for players.

Blackjack can have good odds if you make only the correct (mathematical) decisions. The real advantage the card counters gain is by knowing when the odds go up for player based on what cards are already dealt, and then they dramatically increase their bets. So basically they dick around with small bets at low odds, and wait for 'the perfect storm' and increase their bets dramatically. It's a fun game but it's pretty much the worst game a 'casual recreational gambler' can play because you will make bad decisions and decrease your odds dramatically. The BIGGEST single thing you can do to improve your odds in Blackjack is sit down at the table that says on it "Blackjack pays 3:2" and DO NOT SIT AT THE TABLE THAT SAYS "Blackjack pays 6:5". Most casinos have both, just mixed in right next to each other, and one pays you more than the other for no reason expect people are stupid and mindless and drunk and don't pay attention

When it comes to the slots... I think the legal limit Nevada has set is 70% return, so no casino in las vegas can rip you off by more than 30% lol. On the strip most machines will be around 85% payback, downtown maybe 85-90%, and smaller casinos that serve the locals well off the strip can sometime have payout returns as high as 95% (and if they do, they will be screaming it from the mountain tops trying to attract customers). Here is a pretty decent site explaining it much better than i can.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/slots/appendix/3a/

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:36 am**

thanks for all those explanations mook that was interesting (and thanks for your bitcoin pm still didn't answer to that..). I don't really know craps nor baccarat... just by name.

regarding macdonalds monopoly... I never liked to go there for those monopoly board tickets, what I always liked is that you could get a free burger or a free frie or something very often. The rest, I never gave myself the slightest chance.
And yes, I know there was a documentary about the cheating with the million bucks tickets and all... but that's just not the game that's rigged... it's the people putting the game in place that corrupted it by cheating.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:05 am**

What do you think "rigged" means?

I only ask because this is basically a perfect discription of rigged.

... people putting the game in place that corrupted it by cheating.

Am I spelling it wrong and you think rigged is a different word?

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:47 pm**

betiko wrote:thanks for all those explanations mook that was interesting (and thanks for your bitcoin pm still didn't answer to that..). I don't really know craps nor baccarat... just by name.

regarding macdonalds monopoly... I never liked to go there for those monopoly board tickets, what I always liked is that you could get a free burger or a free frie or something very often. The rest, I never gave myself the slightest chance.
And yes, I know there was a documentary about the cheating with the million bucks tickets and all... but that's just not the game that's rigged... it's the people putting the game in place that corrupted it by cheating.

I'm here and ready to talk crypto when you are ready.

Also, this is not financial advise... but you should liquidate everything you own and buy blackberry stock at $17/usd per share today because it's going to the moon on a rocketship

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:08 am**

2dimes wrote:What do you think "rigged" means?

I only ask because this is basically a perfect discription of rigged.
... people putting the game in place that corrupted it by cheating.

Am I spelling it wrong and you think rigged is a different word?

yeah you're right but... what I meant is that macdonald's, the instigator of the game didn't create it rigged, and created it with the intention of making a fair competition. People hired by them to put it in place rigged it. In one of your early messages it kind of felt like you meant the game was rigged by essence.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:21 am**

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:36 pm**

betiko wrote:
2dimes wrote:What do you think "rigged" means?

I only ask because this is basically a perfect discription of rigged.
... people putting the game in place that corrupted it by cheating.

Am I spelling it wrong and you think rigged is a different word?

yeah you're right but... what I meant is that macdonald's, the instigator of the game didn't create it rigged, and created it with the intention of making a fair competition. People hired by them to put it in place rigged it. In one of your early messages it kind of felt like you meant the game was rigged by essence.

It;s the difference between the technical dictionary definition of the word “rigged” and the implied definition as used colloquially.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:56 pm**

betiko wrote: I don't really know craps nor baccarat... just by name.

Craps can be a fast paced game and it's hard to understand and the croupiers aren't usually super friendly to newbies.

Baccarat is about the simplest game out there, and it's not super hard to understand or play. You basically have two hands dealt, one for the 'banker', one for the 'player'. These are just the names they give these two spots, you as a gambler can choose to bet on either. You are just betting on who will win (a tie is also possible and you can also bet on that). So that's it. Three options of where to bet, you bet on one, you wait for the dealer to finish dealing the card, and you win or lose. No math, no hitting or folding, just put your money on the table and then win or lose. So simplicity + great odds are what make this the best game at the casino! The main downside... it can get boring lol.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:04 pm**

jimboston wrote:
betiko wrote:
2dimes wrote:What do you think "rigged" means?

I only ask because this is basically a perfect discription of rigged.
... people putting the game in place that corrupted it by cheating.

Am I spelling it wrong and you think rigged is a different word?

yeah you're right but... what I meant is that macdonald's, the instigator of the game didn't create it rigged, and created it with the intention of making a fair competition. People hired by them to put it in place rigged it. In one of your early messages it kind of felt like you meant the game was rigged by essence.

It;s the difference between the technical dictionary definition of the word “rigged” and the implied definition as used colloquially.

The odds are abysmal, ten prizes out of millions of stickers. There was no need to mess with it, it would definately be profitable for the corporation..

But someone still did.

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