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Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:51 am**

I agree with borat, that CrazyAnglican is the best contributor on his side of the debate. This discussion, I have found, generally dead ends on faith. Some have found it, some haven't. There the thread can end. Anglican, I am a C.S. Lewis reader, as well as the old and new testaments. I would ask that since I have read your holy books and favorite arguments, (faith) that you read the most recently fashionable atheist position: The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins (science). I admit he is shrill at best, and catty at worst, but to be fair, I waded through all that damn begetting in Genesis. I would be interested in your response.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:32 am**

Have fun in Hell loser

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:40 am**

Jamie wrote:Have fun in Hell loser

What would you describe as Hell Jamie? I'm sure the one you use is different to the one in the Bible.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:17 am**

Hell is attempting to seriously consider something said by someone named "Skittles"

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:57 am**

Jamie wrote:Have fun in Hell loser

is it me or look your face like that one of mister bean?

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:31 am**

RationalEvil wrote: I would ask that since I have read your holy books and favorite arguments, (faith) that you read the most recently fashionable atheist position: The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins (science). I admit he is shrill at best, and catty at worst, but to be fair, I waded through all that damn begetting in Genesis. I would be interested in your response.

Oh I hate Dawkins so much! At worst he is worse than catty. But having said all that, he is an increadibly clever man, and one who speaks a lot of sense. I would find Dawkins more of a wade than Genesis. But by the nature of faith, nothing can really be disproved, as it is kind of belief without evidence. We'll know when we die!

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:45 am**

Koba wrote:We'll know when we die!

Tell you what, you do it first and tell us what it's like.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:44 am**

Jamie wrote:Have fun in Hell loser

There is no hell you superstitious caveman.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:48 am**

Fyodor Dostoevsky wrote:Fathers and teachers, I ponder, "What is hell?" I maintain that it is the suffering of being unable to love.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:55 am**

Sartre wrote:Hell is other people.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:55 am**

Letter to a Christian Nation by Sam Harris is the best contemporary text I've read that enters into this debate.

I highly recommend it, to both the believers and the nonbelievers.

Plus, it's pretty short. Even Ronaldinho, who I hear can't read, could handle it.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:56 am**

STFU about the bible already!

-X

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:16 am**

Lemuel K. Washburn wrote:A man cannot be happy who believes in hell, any more than he can sweeten his coffee with a pickle.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:22 am**

Jamie wrote:Have fun in Hell loser

Hell was invented to keep people like Jamie in line.

And thanks for the christian charity, brother.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:18 pm**

Koba wrote:
RationalEvil wrote: I would ask that since I have read your holy books and favorite arguments, (faith) that you read the most recently fashionable atheist position: The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins (science). I admit he is shrill at best, and catty at worst, but to be fair, I waded through all that damn begetting in Genesis. I would be interested in your response.

Oh I hate Dawkins so much! At worst he is worse than catty. But having said all that, he is an increadibly clever man, and one who speaks a lot of sense. I would find Dawkins more of a wade than Genesis. But by the nature of faith, nothing can really be disproved, as it is kind of belief without evidence. We'll know when we die!

Dawkins shrill? That's an understatement! I've never got round to reading The God Delusion, and probably never will, because I doubt there will be anything in there that I don't already know - though I'm willing to be disabused of that point if anyone thinks there's actually anything new in there...

The problem I have with Dawkins is that much of what he says is relevant only to fundamentalists and hellfire & brimstone Christians, who are still a minority of Christians (though a noisy & rich minority).

I'd like to know, for instance, what gives the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury their supposed moral authority, and why they are allotted so much space in the media, but nothing Dawkins says ever really addresses them or their followers.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:38 pm**

call me kcl

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:38 pm**

or lord

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:47 pm**

damnit all. I meant to post this in the jesusfreaks thread, not make a new bit. damn.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:15 pm**

I would join that forum if it weren't for the fact that I CAN'T. It's so secluded, forumers are getting overtaken by their huge, Jesus-belt-buckle-toting egoes

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:36 pm**

Hey man, everyone needs a group to belong to. Theirs is fundamentalist christianity. Mine is my group of nerdy friends. Jamie has... Kayla. Maybe.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:00 pm**

plus you're fat. people pity you

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:18 pm**

hey just a question, what is more desirable, death and then nothing, or death and then hell? i'm not trying to stir i really just want to know, given the choice i'm really not sure what i would pick.

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:19 pm**

unriggable wrote:I would join that forum if it weren't for the fact that I CAN'T. It's so secluded, forumers are getting overtaken by their huge, Jesus-belt-buckle-toting egoes

why cant you join?

Posted: **Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:37 pm**

maybe he means he feels morally compelled to stay away or because he doesnt follow the 4 rules. i dont know why im answering seeing as he will post sooner or later giving the real answer.

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