ConfederateSS wrote:jusplay4fun wrote:As someone who is versed in U. S. American History, I am surprised that you do not know about the Lincoln security "detail" in 1865. There was ONE man on duty during the day (he was very good) and one at night. The night watch Secret Service guy was HORRIBLE, a drunk, who used hookers. There is evidence that he was NOT at his post outside Lincoln's box the night he was killed. SHOCKINGLY, he was not fired for dereliction of duty.
The fact that the rooftop used by the would-be Trump assassin was NOT secure is a real FOUL UP; that is a clear oversight, to understate the problem. I had heard reports that the actual assignment of what agency was responsible for it is not clear.
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No I was right, it was just someone pulled from the army...To guard Lincoln....The Secret Service was being processed in Congress....The Secret Service did not become The Secret Service until July 5, 1865 A.D...2 and a half months after Lincoln was killed...Had it been made months before.... Lincoln would of not been killed...There would of been more of a Protection Presence at the Theater......
ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
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The F.B.I. back then... Lincoln was hit by broken glass...He wasn't shot either... 
.....How and the HELL... could someone even say that... Especially in a Congress hearing...The Secret Service was spitting sh*t of their own...WHEN WE SAW IT LIVE ON T.V....WOW 
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It reminds me of an Alan Ladd movie...He leaves the Northwest to go talk to the President...I think Grant...He gets to the gate of the Whitehouse...There is an army guy there with one leg/foot... Guarding the gate/entrance...They talk, he tells Ladd...I lost it at this "Battle?)"...Says,"I already have one foot in the grave..."...
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I think my grasp of the facts are more close to the historical record:
Where was the Secret Service when President Lincoln was shot? Why wasn’t Lincoln guarded?
Abraham Lincoln signed the bill creating the Secret Service on April 14, 1865, the day of the assassination. However, their primary mission at that time was the prevention of counterfeiting. The Secret Service was not assigned to protect the president until after the 1901 assassination of President William McKinley. Some Secret Service agents had protected the president on occasion, but the agency was not charged specifically with presidential security. Before 1901, there was no policy about who protected the president. Presidents would simply grab whatever law enforcement agent was close at hand.
As for the evening of April 14, 1865, a lone Washington, D.C. police officer named John Parker was assigned to escort the President from the White House to Ford’s and back. His whereabouts at the time of the assassination are unknown. Some have suggested Lincoln may have invited him to take a seat with a better view elsewhere in the theatre. Lincoln usually did not have a security officer stand outside his box during plays. There is some evidence that Parker may have taken a drink at the Star Saloon next door with the president’s coachman and messenger during the intermission. There is no evidence on whether he remained there during the assassination. In general, presidential security was a much more casual affair in the 19th century. Keeping a constant watch on the president, as we would expect today, would not have been part of Parker’s duties.
The Superintendent of the Metropolitan Police Department filed charges against Parker in May 1865, alleging dereliction of duty in allowing the assassin to shoot the president. The charges were dismissed a month later, and no transcripts of the hearing survive. Parker continued on with the police force until 1868. Parker was not called to testify during the trial of the conspirators, and no full account of his actions that night exists. We will most likely never know his perspective on the tragic events of April 14, 1865.
The Civil War was the first American war in which the average soldier could reliably aim their firearms and hit a target. However, many Americans continued to believe that guns were very unreliable and inaccurate. They believed so even after the Civil War. As such, presidential security at the time was not so concerned about assassins sneaking around with guns. The potential for crowds or mob violence seemed to pose a bigger threat. John Parker was not disciplined for leaving his post, because there was no clear policy for how he should have acted. Parker saw himself as a police escort whose job was to escort the presidential carriage while it was out in the street. He did not see himself as a dedicated personal security guard for the president. That continued to be the policy through the assassinations of James A. Garfield and William McKinley, before Secret Service was permanently assigned to the president in 1901.
Lincoln himself did not seek any form of personal protection, and he was somewhat cavalier and fatalistic about his own security. Secretary of War Edwin Stanton was always concerned with the president’s vulnerability to attack. Stanton often had military units escort President Lincoln’s carriage on his travels in the city. Lincoln’s friend from Springfield, Illinois, Ward Hill Lamon, also often served a self-appointed, informal role as the president’s bodyguard. Lamon was in Richmond on the night of Lincoln’s assassination.
https://www.nps.gov/foth/learn/historyculture/faq-the-assassination.htm#:~:text=As%20for%20the%20evening%20of,of%20the%20assassination%20are%20unknown.I have read other accounts of this that agree with what I read and posted above.
About the only part ConfedSS got right was that there was no Secret Service assigned at the time of Lincoln's assassination. And there was NO FBI in 1865; that agency was created in 1908 and in the 1930s one of its main objectives was to stop the numerous national bank robbers.
You can read more here:
https://www.fbi.gov/history/brief-history
