Ukraine unbroken two years into Putin's War

[saxitoxin]

my order of preference would be China > US > Russia

ralf has pivoted and is now talking about sexual preference

[ConfederateSS]

--------- The USA finally said it out loud....As it ruined the second chance for a peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia/Soviet Union...The War won't end , until we(Washington/USA), says so.......
-----------WOW ..... Everyone knew it already....But for The Biden White House to admit it...As they Military Industrial Complex makes money...Wants to keep the war going for as long as possible...WOW ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[jimboston]

Quite honestly my order of preference would be China > US > Russia. I doubt any of them would be much different to each other, but going from left to right you get governments with increasingly little resources to spend on charming friends and increasingly more internal shitshows distracting them from being friendly.

I call bullshit on this answer.

Your lame-ass country has been living under the protection of the American Eagle Wing since 1939.

You were able to ride with that protection for a bit after the war… continuing to suck resources from India and Africa and Hong Kong.
Slowly, even with your Big Brother standing behind you the UK couldn’t hold onto its’ Empire… and now you have a few little islands dispersed around the world that cost you more than they are worth. If you didn’t have the USA you’d absolutely be fully imbedded in the looming disaster that is the EU and you would’ve lost the Pound as an independent currency 20 years ago.

Even now, because our support, you retain some status and a fairly high standard of living and your human rights.

You really think you would have the same standard of living under China’s watch?
You certainly wouldn’t have any rights… that’s for sure.

[saxitoxin]

Today's state arrival ceremony of China's visit to Russia had to be moved indoors due to chilly weather in Moscow. It was held in Saint George's Hall in the Grand Kremlin Palace.

Despite being moved indoors, President Xi was treated to a slimmed down version of the pageantry and hospitality of Russian civilization and the band of the Kremlin Regiment executed a marvelous performance of March of the Volunteers.

Xi later clarified he will not be meeting with the budget porn actor whatshisname in Kiev during his visit to the Slavic Lands.

[jimboston]

Today's state arrival ceremony of China's visit to Russia had to be moved indoors due to chilly weather in Moscow. It was held in Saint George's Hall in the Grand Kremlin Palace.

Despite being moved indoors, President Xi was treated to a slimmed down version of the pageantry and hospitality of Russian civilization and the band of the Kremlin Regiment executed a marvelous performance of March of the Volunteers.

Xi later clarified he will not be meeting with the budget porn actor whatshisname in Kiev during his visit to the Slavic Lands.

So he’s NOT really interested in being a peace broker?

Surprise! Not.

[saxitoxin]

Today's state arrival ceremony of China's visit to Russia had to be moved indoors due to chilly weather in Moscow. It was held in Saint George's Hall in the Grand Kremlin Palace.

Despite being moved indoors, President Xi was treated to a slimmed down version of the pageantry and hospitality of Russian civilization and the band of the Kremlin Regiment executed a marvelous performance of March of the Volunteers.

Xi later clarified he will not be meeting with the budget porn actor whatshisname in Kiev during his visit to the Slavic Lands.

So he’s NOT really interested in being a peace broker?

Surprise! Not.

If Ukraine surrendered or was defeated would there be peace? Yes or no?

Yes.

[bigtoughralf]

Quite honestly my order of preference would be China > US > Russia. I doubt any of them would be much different to each other, but going from left to right you get governments with increasingly little resources to spend on charming friends and increasingly more internal shitshows distracting them from being friendly.

I call bullshit on this answer.

Presumably because it failed to meet the key criteria of 'agreeing with jim' and 'expressing admiration for the freedom and motivation of American patriots'.

Slowly, even with your Big Brother standing behind you the UK couldn’t hold onto its’ Empire… and now you have a few little islands dispersed around the world that cost you more than they are worth. If you didn’t have the USA you’d absolutely be fully imbedded in the looming disaster that is the EU and you would’ve lost the Pound as an independent currency 20 years ago.

This would be good fan fiction for a Captain America internet forum but in the real world the UK left the EU despite the US President ordering the UK to stay in it.

It also ignored the US when it ordered the UK not to use Huawei 5G infrastructure, ignored the US when it told the UK not to join China's Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, ignored the US when it ordered the UK not to rewrite the UK-EU agreement on Northern Ireland etc etc.

[bigtoughralf]

the band of the Kremlin Regiment executed a marvelous performance of March of the Volunteers.

March of the Volunteers is a moving piece of music. Written during the Chinese war of resistance against Japan, it calls on the Chinese people to unite in the face of enemy fire and form a new Great Wall that will protect the nation.

It remains as relevant as ever as China today faces naked and unrestrained American aggression. If the US ever tried to attack China, the response would be 1.4 billion proud Chinese rising up as one and crushing the American storm troopers.

[saxitoxin]

the band of the Kremlin Regiment executed a marvelous performance of March of the Volunteers.

March of the Volunteers is a moving piece of music. Written during the Chinese war of resistance against Japan, it calls on the Chinese people to unite in the face of enemy fire and form a new Great Wall that will protect the nation.

It remains as relevant as ever as China today faces naked and unrestrained American aggression. If the US ever tried to attack China, the response would be 1.4 billion proud Chinese rising up as one and crushing the American storm troopers.

THANKS PUB TRIVIA MASTER

[saxitoxin]

Nothing like a good, quality interference tube, parabolic mic ...



The whole Western order is on the peak of the Washington Monument, teetering in the wind. A strong breeze in any direction will cause it to go plummeting to the Earth.

Things will get very tough in the next six months. No more sitting comfortably behind the two ocean moat.

So glad I'm about to be on the right side of history as the final chapter begins.

[bigtoughralf]

中俄好友万岁

中华人民共和国万岁

[jimboston]

Slowly, even with your Big Brother standing behind you the UK couldn’t hold onto its’ Empire… and now you have a few little islands dispersed around the world that cost you more than they are worth. If you didn’t have the USA you’d absolutely be fully imbedded in the looming disaster that is the EU and you would’ve lost the Pound as an independent currency 20 years ago.

This would be good fan fiction for a Captain America internet forum but in the real world the UK left the EU despite the US President ordering the UK to stay in it.

It also ignored the US when it ordered the UK not to use Huawei 5G infrastructure, ignored the US when it told the UK not to join China's Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, ignored the US when it ordered the UK not to rewrite the UK-EU agreement on Northern Ireland etc etc.

LOL…

This is all shit the US doesn’t really care about… or in some cases we publicly state preference for one action so UK can take the opposite and save face.

The UK is our little toady and you know it, Bitch.

[bigtoughralf]

jim: you would definitely prefer to be a US vassal than anyone else
ralf: i wouldn't
jim: that is not true! because the US goes to great lengths to protect the UK, including helping it leave the EU!
ralf: the US pressured the UK to stay in the EU
jim: lol the US doesn't care what the UK does!

[jimboston]

I never said we “helped it leave the EU”.

I said if we weren’t there as. your Big Brother through the Cold War years (I’m thinking 60’s and 70’s) then the UK would’ve jumped in bed fully with the EU much earlier.

Not said, but definitely implied, had that happened the UK would’ve merged currency with the Euro back when it (the Euro)was founded. This would;ve made it impossible for the UK to leave the EU.

I don’t need to type out every baby-step for you to follow along, so I? I thought you had the brains to keep up and follow the nuance.

[jusplay4fun]

I never said we “helped it leave the EU”.

I said if we weren’t there as. your Big Brother through the Cold War years (I’m thinking 60’s and 70’s) then the UK would’ve jumped in bed fully with the EU much earlier.

Not said, but definitely implied, had that happened the UK would’ve merged currency with the Euro back when it (the Euro)was founded. This would;ve made it impossible for the UK to leave the EU.

I don’t need to type out every baby-step for you to follow along, so I? I thought you had the brains to keep up and follow the nuance.

For weakSoftralph, that is needed. He cannot follow the quantum leaps that you make.

[bigtoughralf]

I never said we “helped it leave the EU”.

I said if we weren’t there as. your Big Brother through the Cold War years (I’m thinking 60’s and 70’s) then the UK would’ve jumped in bed fully with the EU much earlier.

The EU wasn't founded until the 90s.

Not said, but definitely implied, had that happened the UK would’ve merged currency with the Euro back when it (the Euro)was founded. This would;ve made it impossible for the UK to leave the EU.

The UK was already part of the EU when the Euro was founded, and was therefore invited to adopt it at that point.

Countries like Montenegro use the Euro as their official currency without being EU member states.

I don’t need to type out every baby-step for you to follow along, so I? I thought you had the brains to keep up and follow the nuance.

It might help if the baby steps and nuances you typed out had at least a slight bearing on reality.

They do say that the rise of the internet means the skills kids need to learn in school now are not how to retain knowledge but how to filter out bad knowledge.

You could maybe look into some remedial classes but while you do, a few starting tips: Hollywood movies are not historical essays, FOX Patriotic News applies some editorial license to how it presents information, the US President is liable to present information in a way that portrays the US in a positive light etc

[jimboston]

They had plenty of treaties and dances in the 70’s and 80’s leading up to the official founding of the EU.

If USA wasn’t there to protect you all from USSR the EU would’ve formed earlier.

I’m not bothering explaining it to you.

[Dukasaur]

England was always a little Euroskeptic.

Of the big four, Italy, France and Germany all joined the EC in 1957. The UK joined much, much later, in 1973.

I don't think the U.S. had much to do with it. Since the time of Marlborough, the English always enjoyed their position as Europe's flanking power, being able to include themselves in European affairs whenever it suited them, and exclude themselves when that suited them better. The fishing villages that eventually became the US were still busy sodomizing Pocahontas when Marlborough was romping across Europe and molding its future to his will.

The Brits were loath to give up the freedom to come and go at will, and Brexit was in many ways a resumption of an earlier status quo rather than something new. England is back to its older status now, officially out of Europe but feeling free to involve itself as much as it wants to.

[jimboston]

As much as the US wants it to…

[saxitoxin]

JP4 - can we get an update on Putin's imminent death from cancer?

He's been days away from dying of cancer for a year now.

Which really sucks for him since he's simultaneously been days away from being overthrown in a military coup for a year now, as well.

And what has the Despot and Ruthless Killer pukin' putin achieve? Lots of death and suffering and destruction, and, imo, mostly of his own Soul.

Vladimir Putin's health is a subject of intense conversation inside the Biden administration after the intelligence community produced its fourth comprehensive assessment at the end of May. The classified U.S. report says Putin seems to have re-emerged after undergoing treatment in April for advanced cancer, three U.S. intelligence leaders who have read the reports tell Newsweek.

The assessments also confirm that there was an assassination attempt on Putin's life in March, the officials say.

The high-ranking officials, who represent three separate intelligence agencies, are concerned that Putin is increasingly paranoid about his hold on power, a status that makes for a rocky and unpredictable course in Ukraine. But it is one, they say, that also makes the prospects of nuclear war less likely.

"Putin's grip is strong but no longer absolute," says one of the senior intelligence officers with direct access to the reports. "The jockeying inside the Kremlin has never been more intense during his rule, everyone sensing that the end is near."

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-putin-treated-cancer-april-us-intelligence-report-says-1710357

[saxitoxin]

Putin last week, eleven months after he died of cancer. ↓

[jusplay4fun]

Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin, who spent months on the ground in Bakhmut, said the Kremlin's claims about inflicting heavy losses on Ukraine are 'wild and absurd science fiction'
Matthew Loh
Tue, June 6, 2023 at 1:58 AM EDT

Yevgeny Prigozhin, the leader of the Russian mercenary company that fought in Bakhmut, says he's not buying Moscow's claims that it inflicted heavy losses on Ukrainian troops in Donetsk.

Russia's defense ministry on Tuesday said it had quashed a major offensive by Ukraine, wiping out 1,500 enemy soldiers, 109 armored vehicles, and 28 tanks — including eight Leopard tanks provided by Germany and three AMX-10 reconnaisance vehicles from France.

(...)

Prigozhin, who was on the ground for months with his troops in a region devastated by war, didn't give detail on how he drew these conclusions.

But his latest criticism of the Kremlin further intensifies the already existing animosity between the mercenary boss and Moscow's top military leaders.

The Wagner leader recently attacked Russia's defense minister, Sergei Shoigu, saying in May that Shoigu 's children and the Russian elite lived in luxury while ordinary citizens were dying in Ukraine.

Earlier that month, he screamed insults and curses at Shoigu and Valery Gerasimov, the Russian army's chief of the general staff, in an expletive-filled video where he raged about ammo shortages and heavy casualties.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wagner-boss-yevgeny-prigozhin-spent-055808046.html

[saxitoxin]

Kimdotcom posted this great video of Nazi armored vehicles being taken out by ZALA Lancet-3 drones. Each Lancet drone costs Russia just $30,000.

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/16 ... 1272637441

The RF has terminated 250 Nazi complexes in the last two weeks with Lancets. That's $2 billion in Biden Bucks down the drain at a cost to Russia of just about $8 million.

Meanwhile, even the Americans can't hide what's happening. Gen. Miley had to admit today that the RF currently has 300,000 troops fortifying its positions inside Ukraine which the Nazis are throwing their 35,000-man counteroffensive against.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcript ... rman-gene/

[jusplay4fun]

Kimdotcom posted this great video of Nazi armored vehicles being taken out by ZALA Lancet-3 drones. Each Lancet drone costs Russia just $30,000.

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/16 ... 1272637441

The RF has terminated 250 Nazi complexes in the last two weeks with Lancets. That's $2 billion in Biden Bucks down the drain at a cost to Russia of just about $8 million.

Meanwhile, even the Americans can't hide what's happening. Gen. Miley had to admit today that the RF currently has 300,000 troops fortifying its positions inside Ukraine which the Nazis are throwing their 35,000-man counteroffensive against.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcript ... rman-gene/

To equate "Nazi" with Ukrainians is simply another example of 1) obfuscation and 2) A LIE by saxi. We are not surprised.