Dune

[DirtyDishSoap]

Thought i saw the sequel trailer earlier this year

[2dimes]

You probably did. They ran a trailer last week when we went to see a picture show.

Splitting the book into two movies was a good idea. There's simply too much there for one movie; but let's hope the second movie actually happens and we're not left hanging with an unfinished product.

Lurn two reed.

[2dimes]

Well, now that I used my fone to look at the second page, maybe my insult is not as stinging as it could be.

[mookiemcgee]

Sorry boys, delayed til March 2024 cus of strikes

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/dune ... 235703991/

[Dukasaur]

Sorry boys, delayed til March 2024 cus of strikes

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/dune ... 235703991/

[saxitoxin]

Sorry boys, delayed til March 2024 cus of strikes

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/dune ... 235703991/

Biden's America.

Anyway, I'll just watch Barbie again.

[bigtoughralf]

Sorry boys, delayed til March 2024 cus of strikes

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/dune ... 235703991/

Wouldn't happen in China.

At least there's new Top Boy out soon in the meantime.

[2dimes]

If a union attempted to strike in China, everyone would instantly be replaced like Ronnie did with the air traffic controllers.

The movies would all be finished like when the main actor dies, then they patch something together with some footage they got, mixed in with new parts made by filming the back of other much less talented actors.

[saxitoxin]

At least there's new Top Boy out soon in the meantime.

We know that's not a movie about you.

[bigtoughralf]

If a union attempted to strike in China, everyone would instantly be replaced like Ronnie did with the air traffic controllers.

As I said, wouldn't happen in China. It follows the US model of trade unions (barely any and they're weak AF) rather than the French model (everyone's in 5 and spend 2 months per year on strike). Prices are low, which shows what a win that is for the consumer!

The movies would all be finished like when the main actor dies, then they patch something together with some footage they got, mixed in with new parts made by filming the back of other much less talented actors.

I think you're thinking of Fast and Furious.

[bigtoughralf]

At least there's new Top Boy out soon in the meantime.

We know that's not a movie about you.

Neither is it about a Republican politician, so I guess that's you waiting till 2024 for new jerk off material.

[2dimes]

I'm too old for the Fast and Furious.

I am thinking Smokey and the Bandit part 3 and the last Bruce Lee movie. I know there have been others, but none I actually remember.

[saxitoxin]

I saw Dune II ... thoughts follow with spoilers (not sure how you spoil a 60 year-old story but whatever) ...

(1) WOW ... absolutely epic. That said, I don't understand how anyone who hasn't read the book or books would find it entertaining as it would be difficult to follow if you had not, I think, particularly with all the psychedelic flash-forwards.

(2) Christopher Walken did a good job as the Padishah Emperor in the sense that everything Walken does is good. However, I sort-of feel like this wasn't a role that only he could play and there were probably other actors who may have done an as-good or better job.

(3) A subtle moment of wokeness: We never have an appearance of Baron Harkonnen's gay sex slaves. (They can't have a homosexual be a villain, I'm assuming.) On the other hand, I was expecting they would cut out the concept of the forced marriage of the Princess Irulan to Paul Atreides but they didn't.

(4) The costuming didn't hit it out of the park like it did in the first film. The baroque elements were gone and it became a little sci-fi'ish. Princess Irulan was dressed like Lady Gaga in her prime.

(5) The music was as-good or better than in the first film.

I'll keep political observations for the Israel thread.

[Funkyterrance]

Who else is PUMPED about Steven Spielberg's West Side Story? I was honestly skeptical but the trailer has me excited! Initially I thought they should have placed it in contemporary times, though I suppose it would be a little unbelievable to have a Puerto Rican street gang on the West Side of Manhattan in 2021. (Thanks, Giuliani!)

I would be excited if he weren’t washed up. Not much to do with Dune, however. I read the Frank Hebert book when I was in high school and it was old then. I thought it was kind of beautiful and it was a favorite. I also loved the David Lynch movie that was made when he was not washed up. Most directors lose their touch around 60-years of age for some reason. I challenge anyone to prove me otherwise. Although I did like the 9th Gate which was made by a then aging Roman Polanski but that’s a rare exception to the rule.

[mookiemcgee]

9th gate was weird but legit.

[saxitoxin]

THIS IS A DUNE THREAD

[mookiemcgee]

Then why did you post about West Side Story?

[saxitoxin]

Then why did you post about West Side Story?

because it's too good to stay quiet about

[Funkyterrance]

Then why did you post about West Side Story?

Because he’s old like Steven Spielberg and forgot. Best to just let him have his way.

[jusplay4fun]

saxi gets caught in his own conundrum and contradiction; good one Mookie. +1

[riskllama]

the 9th Gate is a very underrated movie, imo.

[saxitoxin]

THIS IS A DUNE THREAD

[mookiemcgee]

I know it's a DUNE THREAD but...

What do we think of this one? I have mixed feelings... this feels a bit like sacred ground they are re-booting but it's also been 30-40 years so maybe enough time passed it's worth trying idk. Probs wouldn't go to a theater but am curious to watch at home down the line.

[bigtoughralf]

I saw Dune II ... thoughts follow with spoilers (not sure how you spoil a 60 year-old story but whatever) ...

(1) WOW ... absolutely epic. That said, I don't understand how anyone who hasn't read the book or books would find it entertaining as it would be difficult to follow if you had not, I think, particularly with all the psychedelic flash-forwards.

(2) Christopher Walken did a good job as the Padishah Emperor in the sense that everything Walken does is good. However, I sort-of feel like this wasn't a role that only he could play and there were probably other actors who may have done an as-good or better job.

(3) A subtle moment of wokeness: We never have an appearance of Baron Harkonnen's gay sex slaves. (They can't have a homosexual be a villain, I'm assuming.) On the other hand, I was expecting they would cut out the concept of the forced marriage of the Princess Irulan to Paul Atreides but they didn't.

(4) The costuming didn't hit it out of the park like it did in the first film. The baroque elements were gone and it became a little sci-fi'ish. Princess Irulan was dressed like Lady Gaga in her prime.

(5) The music was as-good or better than in the first film.

I'll keep political observations for the Israel thread.

I saw it yesterday. Overall I thought it was great, although on point 1) I definitely thought parts of the story felt very accelerated. Some of the relationships and dynamics that developed felt like they could have been given a bit more time (the main guy and Johnny getting into a relationship seemed to happen out of nowhere, the badass new Harkonnen nephew went from new character to dead without much development in between etc). It feels like they tried to cram a bit too much in and therefore couldn't give everything the time it deserved.

There was also that weird comment about how men would die if they tried taking on the sorrow of the planet, which there may be more context to if you read the book but in the film it felt like a slightly on-the-nose attempt at being girl power (your point number 3).

The first movie was almost entirely about the politics and power dynamics between the houses and characters, whereas the second felt a lot more like a straight action movie.

[riskllama]

I know it's a DUNE THREAD but...

What do we think of this one? I have mixed feelings... this feels a bit like sacred ground they are re-booting but it's also been 30-40 years so maybe enough time passed it's worth trying idk. Probs wouldn't go to a theater but am curious to watch at home down the line.