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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby pmac666 on Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:04 pm

Why are all those GOP Governors disagreeing with Kremlin Saxi?

Gov. Lee: There's a lot of misinformation on disaster relief right now. In fact, there's some belief that it may be coming from foreign sources (Saxi) to confuse people. Look, FEMA is working alongside local officials to deliver relief to people. They are committed to serving the people in this state, and it’s deeply unfortunate there are those spreading misinformation.
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:51 pm

more worthless silly posts by pee-rat and pee-mac. SAD.

pee-rat has no way to refute the facts I spelled out to prove that he is WRONG AGAIN. pee-mac is not worth my time; like I said, WORTHLESS pee-mac.
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Votanic on Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:20 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:more worthless silly posts by pee-rat and pee-mac. SAD.

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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:53 am

-------For the most part, In reality FEMA was bankrupted by the Biden/Harris Administration....There is no money, that is what's taking so long for help from the Government :!: :!: :!:

--------- The people destroyed by this Hurricane are tired of the lack of help from the Government...
--------- Mean while, you here and will keep hearing of victims talk about help from Citizens, and groups coming in , like former Veteran groups, or like Samaritans Purse, The Billy Graham Family... Stepping into the void, the chaos....
-------- Some Veterans are flying in , privately funded... Flying their own helicopters.... Into people in isolated areas....
--------- Where are the truck loads of supplies of The Army Corp of Engineers...Etc...???
--------- Mean while the Government (so they don't look bad)... Don't want others to help...They have been stopping people from flying, helping people...If they do , they are arrested....One Veteran , flew... Middle Fingers up...Go Ahead, arrest me....In one case...One Veteran Helicopter, flew some out... Wasn't allowed to return....The rest, ended up, loosing what they were on, and drowned...
-------- Kamala, everyone will get $750.00 ... People have lost everything....Yet, The U.S. just sent another 6 Billion to Ukraine...
--------- Why, because Kamala/Joe Bankrupted FEMA, on Illegal Aliens,putting them up in luxury hotels...etc..etc...FACT :!: :!: :!: ...FACT :!: :!: :!: ...
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----------All you have to go there to any hit area...Talk to the Americans, who now have nothing... KEEP TRYING TO DEFEND THE F*CKED UP BIDEN/HARRIS ADMINISTRATION......
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:12 am

--------ONCE AGAIN...THE 1st REAL...REAL HELP PEOPLE FROM N. C. HIT AREAS...SAW...WERE THE FLORIDA STATE POLICE/TROOPERS... Shouldn't that have been The U.S. Military...YES :!: ... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby pmac666 on Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:50 am

jusplay4fun wrote:more worthless silly posts by pee-rat and pee-mac. SAD.

pee-rat has no way to refute the facts I spelled out to prove that he is WRONG AGAIN. pee-mac is not worth my time; like I said, WORTHLESS pee-mac.



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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Pack Rat on Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:46 am

jusplay4fun wrote:more worthless silly posts by pee-rat and pee-mac. SAD.

pee-rat has no way to refute the facts I spelled out to prove that he is WRONG AGAIN. pee-mac is not worth my time; like I said, WORTHLESS pee-mac.


You spelled out what? What facts have you provided?

You continue to say, it's not worth my time to respond, yet you muddy the waters with your butt hurt and repetitive replies.


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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby pmac666 on Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:00 am

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You know what will happen after telling all this lies?
The usual. :lol:

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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:20 am

ConfederateSS wrote:use FEMA money...1 and a half Billion dollars....Of FEMA money... spent on Housing Illegal Aliens,

None of FEMA's budget has been used to house migrants. The $640 million (side note... $640 million is NOT ".1 and a half Billion dollars") is a completely separate program. The funds were appropriated by your Congress on March 22, 2024. It was given to FEMA to administer, but it was not taken from the FEMA budget and it was never part of the FEMA budget.

jusplay4fun wrote:Did FEMA spend BILLIONS ON aliens? Yes. ILLEGAL Aliens? Yes.

Repeating for clarity: None of FEMA's budget has been used to house migrants. The $640 million Shelter and Services Program is a completely separate program. The funds were appropriated by your Congress on March 22, 2024. It was given to FEMA to administer, but it was not taken from the FEMA budget and it was never part of the FEMA budget.

And, at the risk of sounding pedantic, it's not "BILLIONS".

jusplay4fun wrote:And what does ILLEGAL mean in this context? That they should NOT be in the USA. PERIOD.

Technically, perhaps.

Morally, it's crystal clear that people fleeing from tyranny have a right to ask for asylum. If your government has starved the legal system for decades, so that now it takes five years for a refugee to have their case heard, that's on your government. Apparently, bombing Belgrade takes priority over keeping the courts flowing smoothly. If cases were heard promptly, most of these refugees in the country would either be admitted and gainfully employed and paying taxes (assuming their case is valid) or they would be quickly deported (assuming their case is invalid.)
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Votanic on Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:11 pm

2dimes wrote:Wait, Votanic seemed to be attempting another of his typical insults but used the word yummy talking about the koolaid. I feel like he wants some purple drink himself. Who can blame him? It's delicious baby.

Until now, there was no need to coin the term, sacastoyummy.
Thanks to baby bulldog's obtuseness, now there is.
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Oct 06, 2024 12:31 pm

Pack Rat wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:more worthless silly posts by pee-rat and pee-mac. SAD.

pee-rat has no way to refute the facts I spelled out to prove that he is WRONG AGAIN. pee-mac is not worth my time; like I said, WORTHLESS pee-mac.


[b]You spelled out what? What facts have you provided?

You continue to say, it's not worth my time to respond, yet you muddy the waters with your butt hurt and repetitive replies.


like I said, WORTHLESS pee-mac.


Do you read and comprehend, pee-rat? I said pee-mac is worthless. My replies may seem repetitive to, but it seems that you fail to comprehend what I say.

You merely fail to understand. I proved YOU WRONG, with not just one, but with 4 sources, showing how FEMA spent money on Illegal Aliens.

Here is ONE:
Report: One in Five NYC Hotels is Now Housing Illegal Immigrants
by Phil Hall | May 28, 2024 |

https://wrenews.com/report-one-in-five-nyc-hotels-is-now-housing-illegal-immigrants/


and here is your POST that I PROVED that you are WRONG. Can you say puny brained p-rat???????????????

by Pack Rat on Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:20 pm

It's all bullsh!t about your claim that FEMA money is going to illegal aliens and that FEMA is running out of money.

All you have to do is Google or watch the news to see you are just an echo chamber for Trump's rambling and nonsensical speeches.
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby pmac666 on Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:39 pm

Someones spiralling out of control.
Can only hope he will survive the next 30 days and the inevitebale loss. lol
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Votanic on Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:58 pm

pmac666 wrote:Someones spiralling out of control.
Can only hope he will survive the next 30 days and the inevitebale loss. lol

Nonsense.
Even if the worst comes to pass, and America must suffer through another Dem-orchestrated brain-dead figurehead: Kamalala-land = Biden 2.0,
the right-minded will still stalwartly carry on forever with the fight for justice, prosperity, and true progress.
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Pack Rat on Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:18 pm

pmac666 wrote:Someones spiralling out of control.
Can only hope he will survive the next 30 days and the inevitebale loss. lol


It's going to be alot of fun watching the MAGA cult followers go ballistic, when they lose the Executive and Congress seats! I figure at least three posters will have brain aneurism.
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Votanic on Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:33 pm

Pack Rat wrote:
pmac666 wrote:Someones spiralling out of control.
Can only hope he will survive the next 30 days and the inevitebale loss. lol


It's going to be alot of fun watching the MAGA cult followers go ballistic, when they lose the Executive and Congress seats! I figure at least three posters will have brain aneurism.

Just more PRPS (Pee Rat Projection Syndrome).
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Votanic on Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:12 am

Dukasaur wrote:Morally, it's crystal clear that people fleeing from tyranny have a right to ask for asylum. If your government has starved the legal system for decades, so that now it takes five years for a refugee to have their case heard, that's on your government. Apparently, bombing Belgrade takes priority over keeping the courts flowing smoothly. If cases were heard promptly, most of these refugees in the country would either be admitted and gainfully employed and paying taxes (assuming their case is valid) or they would be quickly deported (assuming their case is invalid.)

More self-serving morality, Duk'?
Perhaps, they have the right to ask, but not the right to insist or trespass.
Also, a country has a right to refuse admittance. That is why there are borders, visas, etc.
People often romanticize the fact that they had immigrant ancestors (virtually everybody has), but then otherwise ignore the context and the complications.
They also ignore the fact that they also had native ancestors who often had to resist invaders.
Many of these natives who stayed in place were actually more valiant and deserving.
Instead of fleeing to another ocuntry when things got rough, they chose stay and fight in place for a better life.
Imigration is in no way an inherent virtue, Duk ....it is merely a situation.
And those that immigrate illegally are showing right off the bat that they are criminals and scofflaws.
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:00 am

pee-rat cannot refute where I caught him in a LIE on this very topic.

Instead, he re-posts an insult from his PAL pee-mac. PITIFUL. Both of them are worthless.
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby pmac666 on Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:42 am

Pack Rat wrote:
pmac666 wrote:Someones spiralling out of control.
Can only hope he will survive the next 30 days and the inevitebale loss. lol


It's going to be alot of fun watching the MAGA cult followers go ballistic, when they lose the Executive and Congress seats! I figure at least three posters will have brain aneurism.



Just hope they dont arm up and storm the next gvmt building.
On the other hand there are still not enough ppl in jail for the Donald.

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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Pack Rat on Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:16 am

pmac666 wrote:
Pack Rat wrote:
pmac666 wrote:Someones spiralling out of control.
Can only hope he will survive the next 30 days and the inevitebale loss. lol


It's going to be alot of fun watching the MAGA cult followers go ballistic, when they lose the Executive and Congress seats! I figure at least three posters will have brain aneurism.



Just hope they dont arm up and storm the next gvmt building.
On the other hand there are still not enough ppl in jail for the Donald.

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See how these cult followers still insist that FEMA is broke and paying illegal aliens $1,000 per day to stay in motels, lol. You gotta think that when Florida gets hit this Wednesday...sorry Florida no money for you. Plus the fact that 2 idiots are trying to derail this thread with nonsense, since it has been proven that FEMA is not bankrupt and FEMA is not paying illegal aliens $1,000 a day to stay in some flea bitten motel.
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby pmac666 on Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:08 pm

Pack Rat wrote:
pmac666 wrote:
Pack Rat wrote:
pmac666 wrote:Someones spiralling out of control.
Can only hope he will survive the next 30 days and the inevitebale loss. lol


It's going to be alot of fun watching the MAGA cult followers go ballistic, when they lose the Executive and Congress seats! I figure at least three posters will have brain aneurism.



Just hope they dont arm up and storm the next gvmt building.
On the other hand there are still not enough ppl in jail for the Donald.

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See how these cult followers still insist that FEMA is broke and paying illegal aliens $1,000 per day to stay in motels, lol. You gotta think that when Florida gets hit this Wednesday...sorry Florida no money for you. Plus the fact that 2 idiots are trying to derail this thread with nonsense, since it has been proven that FEMA is not bankrupt and FEMA is not paying illegal aliens $1,000 a day to stay in some flea bitten motel.


And they argue against every GOP Governor involved.
Wonder what their goal is? lol

Anyways, it will backfire, as usual.

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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:47 pm

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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby mookiemcgee on Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:31 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:Image



For once Trump says something accurate (outside of the democrat part)?


https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/sites/default/files/research/immigrants_in_florida.pdf
"775,000 undocumented immigrants comprised 4 percent of the total state population in 2016"

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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Pack Rat on Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:00 pm

Lived in Fort Myers, Florida for 6 years, until last year when I moved to Arizona. Florida has become a sh!thole and trying to get home insurance anywhere near the coast is next to impossible. It is overbuilt and traffic is horrible. The schools suck and book banning is now the State sport.

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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:00 pm

Votanic wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Morally, it's crystal clear that people fleeing from tyranny have a right to ask for asylum. If your government has starved the legal system for decades, so that now it takes five years for a refugee to have their case heard, that's on your government. Apparently, bombing Belgrade takes priority over keeping the courts flowing smoothly. If cases were heard promptly, most of these refugees in the country would either be admitted and gainfully employed and paying taxes (assuming their case is valid) or they would be quickly deported (assuming their case is invalid.)

More self-serving morality, Duk'?

Self-serving? In what way do you believe this serves me?

Votanic wrote:Perhaps, they have the right to ask, but not the right to insist or trespass.
Also, a country has a right to refuse admittance. That is why there are borders, visas, etc.

There are borders because those in power like to regulate those without power.

Until recently, borders existed only so those in power could claim the right to tax those inside a certain line.

Only in the last two or three centuries have things like passports and visas appeared, and then only in a few parts of the world. Only since WW II have they become common.

Until then, nobody was crazy enough to turn down the appearance of fresh, cheap labour on his shores. (With obvious exceptions for wars, plagues, and paranoid shoguns.)

Votanic wrote:People often romanticize the fact that they had immigrant ancestors (virtually everybody has), but then otherwise ignore the context and the complications.

Maybe, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to point to an actual person who "ignores the context and the complications."

Almost everyone (like me) who favours immigration is cognizant of thing like the fact that, while immigration is always good for the economy in the long run, it does create some problems, sometimes serious problems, in the short run.

Votanic wrote:They also ignore the fact that they also had native ancestors who often had to resist invaders.
Many of these natives who stayed in place were actually more valiant and deserving.
Instead of fleeing to another ocuntry when things got rough, they chose stay and fight in place for a better life.

Now who's "romanticizing"?

There's nothing valiant about the first person to arrive on a nice resource claiming it all for himself and denying a slice of the pie to those who come later. It's just greed and voracity.

Votanic wrote:Imigration is in no way an inherent virtue, Duk ....it is merely a situation.
And those that immigrate illegally are showing right off the bat that they are criminals and scofflaws.

Lawbreakers, sometimes. Scofflaws, usually not. A scofflaw is a cynic who habitually breaks the law because enforcement is weak and he knows he can easily get away with it. Illegal immigrants almost never are. Most make good-faith efforts to enter legally, but find out just how ruthlessly the cards are stacked against them, and have to go ahead with some illegal Plan B, which in most cases is difficult and dangerous. Enforcement is not weak -- most are caught, many are detained under brutal conditions, and once released their troubles are not over. Most would be happy to make their case in a court of law, but don't get the opportunity.
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Re: Illegal Aliens, Bankrupt FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:38 pm

-----------If they didn't waste/steal the FEMA money they wouldn't be asking to replace it...
------------ All the social media posts by citizens trapped in this disaster...That tells the story...Where is the Government???
------------ I call it Fort Bragg....That base should be empty...They should of moved out on day one....Areas that can't be reached....Has the U.S. Military forgotten how to drop supplies from the sky , parachute in supplies...Can build a dock off GAZA....But can't get make shift bridges, to get supplies in....Like when in WW2 ....The Army Corp of Engineers, popping up bridges across The Rhine and other rivers...As the Germans were blowing up bridges as the retreated...
-------- When the Persians attacked Greece, before the 300...They tied boats together and formed a make shift bridge...So they only had to march a little way to Thyrmopile(I know not spelled correctly)...The point is....The United States should be able to Mobilize in a blink of an eye...Over a week, is pathetic...
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-----------The Biden/Harris Administration....Let Over 20 million Illegal Aliens into the country...That itself has BANKRUPTED AMERICA :!: :!: :!: ...FEMA is just one Agency Bankrupted...By their America last Agenda...Open Borders, Over Seas spending, to Countries that want to destroy America...FACT :!: :!: :!: ... Meanwhile they try and stop private citizens from flying their own rescue missions, or Groups like Billy Graham...From helping....They go anyway.... People are using horses to get across rivers, people like the Cajun Navy(small boats)...to help...For those people hurt, for them, The Government help is to late.....Guess where FEMA personal are, like Maui, They are in Hotels in the hit area... :( :( :(
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