The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly Harris vs. Trump

[jusplay4fun]

President Obama did more to reduce the flow of illegal aliens over our southern border and sent more illegal aliens back home. In fact the Economist newspaper called President Obama the Deporter in Chief.

If you're having to deport vast numbers of aliens that means the border is not secure. If you're not having to go through the expensive process of deportation that means border penetration is not occurring in the first place. That said, it is true that Obama did a reasonably good job securing the border, just like Trump, but unlike Biden. The relevant statistic is not deportations but Border Patrol encounters - the number of illegal aliens stopped by the Border Patrol within the Border Enforcement Zone (meaning they've violated the Frontier Boundary but have not yet made it into the interior).


https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R47556

As I have said repeatedly, Biden and Kamala made a mess of the US-Mexico border.

Typical of Twiddle dee pee-rat and Twiddle-Dum pee-mac: they ignore the facts since they cannot refute them. Pathetic pee peas in the Pod.

[pmac666]

Well, since its Joes fault you are surely able to name the policy that caused it, right?
And no ones denying the numbers, youre just not bright enough to put it into context why the numbers were so high.
Let me help you.

At first there was a little disruption called Covid that made the situation for a lot ppl in middle and south america even worse, and then there was title 42, a covid policy which allowed migrants to come and apply again and again and again, which made the numbers infaltionary. Putting that away + the executive order from Joe, which was necessary cause Trump didnt wanted that border bill to run on it, reduced the numbers that are lower right now than when Trump left.

Also how is it possible that so many came when Trump built that beautiful wall? Are walls not working?
And why didnt Trump do a thing about it in his first 2 years when he had house and senate? Cause he had bigger numbers than Obama had.....
As said, you wont ever get a better border bill than the one that was on the table. Well, maybe if you vote for Kamala, she might implement it.

And no, Kamala was not the "border czar" (what a silly name creation, must be from the rightwing lol), she was appointed to help a few middle american countries to reduce the numbers from there, which she did.

So i would say they did a pretty good job considering the circumstances.
Isnt it funny that they dont blame Trump for Covid but they blame Joe for everything the Covid fallout created?
Thats all so disingenuous..... but we see right through it, dont worry.
(and now im eagerly waiting for a copy pasta reply )

[saxitoxin]

At first there was a little disruption called Covid that made the situation for a lot ppl in middle and south america even worse, and then there was title 42, a covid policy which allowed migrants to come and apply again and again and again, which made the numbers infaltionary. Putting that away + the executive order from Joe, which was necessary cause Trump didnt wanted that border bill to run on it, reduced the numbers that are lower right now than when Trump left.

I feel like this is something I'd like to rebut but I'm not entirely clear what it says. It's like written in some exotic form of Pidgin English.

no, Kamala was not the "border czar"

Axios (April 2021): "Harris, appointed by Biden as border czar ..."

Dr. Lee E. Ohanian, Senior Fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution:

Last week, the Harris campaign issued a list of talking points to downplay Harris’s border responsibilities. These talking points have focused on denying that Harris was the “border czar,” a term some in the media used to describe her border role. Her campaign has instead argued that her role in dealing with border issues was limited to identifying the root causes of migration. Those who have repeated these talking points include White House press secretary Karine Jeanne-Pierre, House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries, and Massachusetts representative Jim McGovern. This is odd, because some of those same media sources, including NBC, the Associated Press, Politico, the Washington Post, and the New York Times largely stated otherwise in 2021. Politico reported that Biden made Harris the “point person on immigration issues” amid the border surge; NBC reported, “Biden tasks Harris with ‘stemming the migration’ on southern border”; and the Associated Press stated, “Biden taps VP Harris to lead response to border challenges.”

what a silly name creation, must be from the rightwing lol

The term "czar" as an informal title for what is officially called Special Assistant to the President was coined by Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat.

Are walls not working? And why didnt Trump do a thing about it in his first 2 years when he had house and senate?

Forty-five days after he was inaugurated, Trump requested $1.4 billion in initial funding for border wall construction. Congress ultimately provided only $341 million, which was earmarked primarily for repairs and maintenance rather than new wall construction. This was due to obstructionism from Lisa Murkowski and John McCain in the Senate. The GOP is not a monolith and you are unlikely to find a single Trump supporter who supports Murkowski or McCain. In fact, Murkowski was last elected as a write-in candidate after losing the Republican primary election.

[pmac666]

Finally something we all can be happy about.
Saxi is not replying. I repeat, Saxi is not replying.

[pmac666]

Oh Saxi loves his edit button. lol

So why did we hear the term "border czar" for the first time when maga dummies were complaining about her?
The Axios article is behind a paywall, but as far as i could see is that she was appointed to adress root causes. Which i said and which she did.
And that border wall is working awesome, right?
He should have invested the money for some legit policy instead of sucking the money from other institutions for his silly wall.
But then, that was his only idea apart from filling the Rio Grande with aligators. lol


U.S. VP Harris highlights $4.2 bln private sector investment in Central America.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 023-02-06/

Among the new announcements on Monday, Target committed to increase its spending in El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras by $300 million this year while Columbia said it would purchase $200 million in products in the region, creating more than 6,900 jobs over five years.

U.S. President Joe Biden, who delivers the annual State of the Union address on Tuesday, named Harris in March 2021 to lead efforts to reduce migration at the U.S.-Mexico border as crossings began to spike at the beginning of his administration, eventually reaching record highs.

Arrivals from northern Central America have steadily declined, opens new tab following a sharp rise in 2021 after Biden took office.
During that time, hundreds of thousands of migrants from the region have been expelled back to Mexico without the chance to seek U.S. asylum under a COVID-19-related order known as Title 42.


What im saying. And again, no "border czar"......
And even if she was, which she wasnt, she must have done an awesome job when i look at todays numbers.
And dont tell me that things work overnight, esp when i look at that great new border wall.

[pmac666]

And apart from all that, why would you even give a shit?
I know i wouldnt and when its just for the fact that migrants pay way more in than they get out (unlike your average red state) and they are a huge part of your economic growth. Can i get a hurray for capitalism?
Also they commit way less crimes than Joe Sixpack or Donald Trump and you have a country thats about the size of china with about a quarter of ppl living on it. So you have lotta space too.
Thats called a net positive and idk whats not to like? Not enough white babies?

If i were you, and godness, allah and satan thx im not (that should cover it lol) i would advocate to speed up the legal process (surprise surprise, this is what the border bill would have done) and to get them in faster and not to get them out and commit economical suicide.
I dont get that xenophobia, at one point they let your family in aswell and that was obv also not the best decission to let such anti americans run wild.

[Votanic]

And apart from all that, why would you even give a shit?
I know i wouldnt and when its just for the fact that migrants pay way more in than they get out (unlike your average red state) and they are a huge part of your economic growth. Can i get a hurray for capitalism?
Also they commit way less crimes than Joe Sixpack or Donald Trump and you have a country thats about the size of china with about a quarter of ppl living on it. So you have lotta space too.
Thats called a net positive and idk whats not to like? Not enough white babies?

If i were you, and godness, allah and satan thx im not (that should cover it lol) i would advocate to speed up the legal process (surprise surprise, this is what the border bill would have done) and to get them in faster and not to get them out and commit economical suicide.
I dont get that xenophobia, at one point they let your family in aswell and that was obv also not the best decission to let such anti americans run wild.

So then, ...flipping your absurd argument on it's misshapen ass, why aren't you desperately trying to keep these poor wretched migrants from falling into this international trespassing trap of exploitation and slavery?? ...you bleeding-hearted hypocrite!

[Pack Rat]

Votanic would look so cool in a SS uniform.

Why were NAZIS so stylish. Could it be homo-erotic?

[Votanic]

Votanic would look so cool in a SS uniform.

Why were NAZIS so stylish. Could it be homo-erotic?

Uhm, pee-rat you appear to be the one that has this vid bookmarked, not me.
A Feinnes mess indeed.

[Pack Rat]

Trump made a comic laugh his @ss off!

[Votanic]

Trump made a comic laugh his @ss off!

Comic is the word, and he is a guest on a comedy-talk show.
Never forget, the man has great wit and is a natural talent. A comedian, performer, and entertainment star of television and the movies.
Not only did he make America great again, but he also made presidenting fun again.
...and that's what this country needs now, and in 2025 & beyond.

[Pack Rat]

Sure thing Votanic! Here's some more of his gaffes.

[Schowalter]

Thank you, I will rely on the information you provide to evaluate the current situation.

[Votanic]

Thank you, I will rely on the information you provide to evaluate the current situation.

This needs to be investigated!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Showalter
Ouija Board Technology (OBT) can open many strange doors.

[ConfederateSS]

--------- Vote for Kamala.... TRUMP says...
---------- America will look like Detroit... ...
---------- KOOL ..... That's actually a complement... ...All the Democrats in Detroit are upset...
---------- Why, Detroit, has been on the rise the past 20 Years... ....
------------ GO TIGERS ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[saxitoxin]

https://x.com/cenkuygur/status/1844830536738779211

[saxitoxin]

Mamala got on the cover of Vogue and it sure looks like the AI worked overtime to get her face ready.



All glory to Mamala!

Meanwhile ... it's October and here come the SURPRISES!!!

[saxitoxin]

BIG D WAS IN COLORADO YESTERDAY, HEADING TO CALIFORNIA TODAY!

The swing states are locked, he's branching out!



Meanwhile, there are rumors circulating that the reason Tim Walz abruptly left teaching was due to concern over the nature of his relationship with one of the male students he was coaching and that he was known to students as "Touchdown Timmy."

UPDATE
Due to intelligence indicating an active plot by Iran to kill Trump to ensure Kamala is elected president, the Trump campaign has requested USAF fighters equipped with Suppression of Enemy Air Defense (SEAD) packages be tasked to escort Trump's aircraft, that restricted flight zones be extended in areas where Trump is at, and that armored vehicles be provided to enhance the defensive capacity of Trump motorcades.

[Votanic]

UPDATE
Due to intelligence indicating an active plot by Iran to kill Trump to ensure Kamala is elected president, the Trump campaign has requested USAF fighters equipped with Suppression of Enemy Air Defense (SEAD) packages be tasked to escort Trump's aircraft, that restricted flight zones be extended in areas where Trump is at, and that armored vehicles be provided to enhance the defensive capacity of Trump motorcades.

Supposedly the whole set-up has already been code-named Air Force One.Five.

[HitRed]

Air Force One.Forty-Five.Forty-Seven.

Fixed

[Votanic]

Air Force One.Forty-Five.Forty-Seven.

Fixed

...uh, Okay.
The same way Grover Cleveland's non-existent airplane would have been called Air Force One.Twenty-Two.Twenty-Four.

[HitRed]

[saxitoxin]

UPDATE
Due to intelligence indicating an active plot by Iran to kill Trump to ensure Kamala is elected president, the Trump campaign has requested USAF fighters equipped with Suppression of Enemy Air Defense (SEAD) packages be tasked to escort Trump's aircraft, that restricted flight zones be extended in areas where Trump is at, and that armored vehicles be provided to enhance the defensive capacity of Trump motorcades.

The government has agreed to Trump's request to provide added security against Iran and its U.S. proxy, Kamala Harris.

The Secret Service detailed Sunday added protection for former President Trump after his campaign sent “several requests” for additional security.

Trump campaign co-manager Susie Wiles made several requests to Rowe, including providing military aircraft that can shoot down missiles. The request also included armored vehicles, expansion of temporary flight restrictions over Trump’s residencies and rallies and more.

Part of Trump’s increased security is a “cadre of rotating special agents” that are part of his detail. His motorcade has been increased in size and security to match that of President Biden’s. The Secret Service is also using unmanned aircraft systems like drones to conduct observation from the air and address ballistic concerns.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... rotection/

[Pack Rat]

With all the phone calls between Putin and Trump, after Trump lost in 2020, maybe Putin can contribute to Trump’s safety. After all Trump wants to protect Russia from Ukraine's invasion.

[saxitoxin]

With all the phone calls between Putin and Trump, after Trump lost in 2020, maybe Putin can contribute to Trump’s safety.

Better idea: Kamala Harris stops collaborating with Iran to assassinate her political opponents.