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Postby vtmarik on Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:30 pm

Roger Dodger wrote:A holy war ? and a war for a spit of land?. Israel was willing to compromise but, palestine wants it all. well, what,


No they weren't! Israel wasn't compromising, they were doing what every insurance company does to an injured family (e.g. shortchanging), "Oh, yes, we know you're asking for a whole state to yourselves and equal representation, so how about we give you the Gaza Strip and West Bank and that's it?"

A compromise is two groups of people coming to an equitable agreement, taking away people's homes and then telling them, "oh you can have the land that we've given you" isn't a compromise. It's the same thing as the Americans "compromising" with the Native Americans by making them live on reservations.

Roger Dodger wrote:then he shouldn't be a Marine. speaking against the Government per the


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Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
889. ART. 89 DISRESPECT TOWARD SUPERIOR COMMISSIONED OFFICER
Any person subject to this chapter who behaves with disrespect toward his superior commissioned officer shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.


There's a difference between disrespecting the President, and calling the President on his wrongdoing. Disrespect would be calling his daughters drunken sluts and then peeing on his shoes. What that Marine is doing is called "Whistleblowing."
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Postby Backglass on Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:10 pm

vtmarik wrote:Disrespect would be calling his daughters drunken sluts and then peeing on his shoes.


Yes...the peeing on his shoes is over the line. :lol:
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Postby Roger Dodger on Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:26 pm

let's just agree to disagree
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Postby UCAbears on Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:17 pm

Oh and Yes Backglass i know where Tasmania is its an island state right under austrailia.....
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Postby vtmarik on Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:10 am

Roger Dodger wrote:let's just agree to disagree


But if we disagree, how can we agree?
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Postby owheelj on Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:05 am

UCAbears wrote:Oh and Yes Backglass i know where Tasmania is its an island state right under austrailia.....


google rocks aye ;)
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Postby UCAbears on Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:10 pm

owheelj wrote:
UCAbears wrote:Oh and Yes Backglass i know where Tasmania is its an island state right under austrailia.....


google rocks aye ;)



no actually cul/physical geography helps :wink:
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Postby Sammy gags on Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:12 pm

just so u guys know, there will always be terrorism because it isnt a type of government that u can overthrow, its liek gangs, groups just spring up
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Postby vtmarik on Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:13 am

Sammy gags wrote:just so u guys know, there will always be terrorism because it isnt a type of government that u can overthrow, its liek gangs, groups just spring up


Exactly, I was listening to Bill-O at work the other day (I work at a Fox Radio affiliate, ugh) and he was saying that the only way to defeat the Terrorists is to "take out their leadership."

Now, that's odd because haven't we killed the No. 2 Man for Al Qaeda like four times?

If any of these Republicans ever played D&D, they'd be very familiar with the concept of the power vacuum, which is one of the principals of why Thieves Guilds can continue to exist for many many years:

A leader dies, two or three people fight to gain his position, and eventually there's a new leader.

The reason the whole "killing the leadership" thing won't work is because whenever you kill someone in the leadership, someone else immediately takes their place. In an organization of thousands, you're going to have a hard time permanently erasing any position of leadership.

But then again, maybe if they kill one more No. 2 guy, that will finally be the last straw and the Terrorists will give up.
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Postby Sammy gags on Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:43 am

terrorism isnt really like a a system or government its more like a gang
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Postby jay_a2j on Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:53 am

Yes, Bin Laden will be captured/killed probably September or October 2008 paving the way for a GOP landslide. :wink:
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Postby Sammy gags on Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:13 am

very unlikely but possible
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Postby vtmarik on Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:24 am

Sammy gags wrote:terrorism isnt really like a a system or government its more like a gang


I never said it was, I was merely saying that it's like a Hydra, cut a head off and two grow in its place.
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Postby Sammy gags on Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:04 pm

i know, i just felt like saying the same thing twice
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Postby owheelj on Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:36 pm

Sammy gags wrote:i know, i just felt like saying the same thing twice
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Postby jay_a2j on Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:06 pm

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Postby Sammy gags on Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:09 pm

Sammy gags wrote:i know, i just felt like saying the same thing twice
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Postby Machiavelli on Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:35 pm

Sammy gags wrote:
Sammy gags wrote:i know, i just felt like saying the same thing twice
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