2010 Skilled Diversity [Winners: See 1st Post]

[Blitzaholic]

outsiders get another one

in rd 7, 5842293

dam it, grrrrrrrrr






ooops , I mean, nice job




will add it later


ty

[Blitzaholic]

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reviewing

[Blitzaholic]

Game 5842314


Horsemen win

2009-11-14 19:09:31 - Blitzaholic, Big Whiskey, Incandenza, Nephilim won the game


2009-11-14 19:09:31 - magneto_acolyte lost 12 points
2009-11-14 19:09:31 - ultraman lost 12 points
2009-11-14 19:09:31 - reahma lost 12 points
2009-11-14 19:09:31 - elmerfudd lost 12 points
2009-11-14 19:09:31 - Blitzaholic gained 12 points
2009-11-14 19:09:31 - Big Whiskey gained 12 points
2009-11-14 19:09:31 - Incandenza gained 12 points
2009-11-14 19:09:31 - Nephilim gained 12 points


2009-11-14 19:09:31 - Blitzaholic, Big Whiskey, Incandenza, Nephilim won the game










round 7

[Blitzaholic]

Game 5842315



Thota wins




009-11-17 18:44:15 - AndrewB, Big Whiskey, Incandenza, Nephilim won the game


2009-11-17 18:44:15 - magneto_acolyte lost 13 points
2009-11-17 18:44:15 - ultraman lost 13 points
2009-11-17 18:44:15 - reahma lost 13 points
2009-11-17 18:44:15 - elmerfudd lost 13 points
2009-11-17 18:44:15 - AndrewB gained 13 points
2009-11-17 18:44:15 - Big Whiskey gained 13 points
2009-11-17 18:44:16 - Incandenza gained 13 points
2009-11-17 18:44:16 - Nephilim gained 13 points


009-11-17 18:44:15 - AndrewB, Big Whiskey, Incandenza, Nephilim won the game







round 8

[Blitzaholic]

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6. *WPBRJ , Meggy, Hacx5nine, Riskier than you---------------------------------------Block Heads
7. *bigragooch, jgalioto, geoe, Haggis_McMutton, Blindmatt, Drew483-------------Bigragooch and His Immortals
8. *Natascha, dragon dor, pascalleke, ronc8649, wilco---------------------------------Hun buns
9. *Marfski, MEK, speed, gcwca_4_life----------------------------------------------------Death from Above
10.*easy n dirty, vexx, paulg, goggles paisano-------------------------------------------The Von Trapp Family Singers
11.*Iccinot Nabrus, kingkoswyn, Phil Gates, LaughingCavalier-------------------------The Gray Matters
12.*taxmanjle, shaneramma, JockDoc, Supposesublys, SC MAN------------------------Magic City Maruaders
13.*iambligh, littlebrother2k7, scorpion86, Iron Maid, hiddendragon, andy1975-----Black Sheep Squadron
14.*sour, gehrem, blockhead15, popeyelvc------------------------------------------------The TeePees
15.*Theotherone, desmondI08, jmelovesGod, brentalexander--------------------------Bruce Brothers
16.*Bigballinstalin, Nola_Lifer, Bigus_Dogus, Amish Ninja, Scottyboymck-----------1 Brit & Crescent City Conquerors
17.*Woodruff, jlduff, Bolo XXXV, Armadillo----------------------------------------------Name to be Determined
18.*ultraman, reahma, magneto_acolyte, elmerfudd-----------------------------------Outsiders
19.*King sam, Gold Knight, jpcloet, murphy16, BluU------------------------------------AOD
20.*rbelgrod, paddy the cat, the true north, phantomzero-----------------------------Regulated Sexahloics

point standings for round 1 and the Sweet 16 that advanced, congratzzz
Teams: The ordered signups
1. Horsemen 44.0
2. Rangers of the North 21.5
3. Four-Skins 22.0
4. Bigragooch and His Immortals 35.5
5. Hun buns 7.0
6. Death from Above 9.0
7. Magic City Maruaders 10.0
8. The Gray Matters 38.5
9. The Von Trapp Family Singers 22.5
10. Black Sheep Squadron 15.0
11. The TeePees 29.5
12. Bruce Brothers 27.0
13. One Brit and the Crescent City Conquerors 21.5
14. Outsiders 45.5
15. AOD 22.0
16. Regulated Sexahloics 20.0

point standings totaled for round 2
Teams: The ordered signups
1. Horsemen 33.0
2. Rangers of the North 22.0
3. Four-Skins 20.0
4. Bigragooch and His Immortals 36.5
5. Hun buns 15.0
6. Death from Above 15.0
7. Magic City Maruaders 3.0
8. The Gray Matters 27.5
9. The Von Trapp Family Singers 21.0
10. Black Sheep Squadron 30.0
11. The TeePees 33.0
12. Bruce Brothers 4.0
13. One Brit and the Crescent City Conquerors 16.5
14. Outsiders 27.5
15. AOD 21.0
16. Regulated Sexaholics 15.0



TOTAL COMBINED FINAL POINTS after Round 1 & 2
and the Final 12 or the DIRTY DOZEN that advanced, congratzzz


1. Horsemen 77.0
2. Rangers of the North 43.5
3. Four-Skins 42.0
4. Bigragooch and His Immortals 72.0
5. The Gray Matters 66.0
6. The Von Trapp Family Singers 43.5
7. Black Sheep Squadron 45.0
8. The TeePees 62.5
9. One Brit and the Crescent City Conquerors 38.0
10. Outsiders 73.0
11. AOD 43.0
12. Regulated Sexaholics 35.0


point standings totaled for round 3
Teams: The ordered signups

1. Horsemen 38.5
2. Rangers of the North 7.0
3. Four-Skins 5.0
4. Bigragooch and His Immortals 42.0
5. The Gray Matters 32.5
6. The Von Trapp Family Singers 35.5
7. Black Sheep Squadron 9.0
8. The TeePees 7.5
9. One Brit and the Crescent City Conquerors 5.0
10. Outsiders 27.5
11. AOD 27.5
12. Regulated Sexaholics 11.0

TOTAL COMBINED FINAL POINTS after 3 Rounds

1. Horsemen 115.5
2. Rangers of the North 50.5
3. Four-Skins 47.0
4. Bigragooch and His Immortals 114.0
5. The Gray Matters 88.5
6. The Von Trapp Family Singers 79.0
7. Black Sheep Squadron 54.0
8. The TeePees 70.0
9. One Brit and the Crescent City Conquerors 43.0
10. Outsiders 100.5
11. AOD 70.5
12. Regulated Sexaholics 46.0


ELITE 8

1. Horsemen 115.5
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 114.0
3. The Gray Matters 88.5
4. The Von Trapp Family Singers 79.0
5. Black Sheep Squadron 54.0
6. The TeePees 70.0
7. Outsiders 100.5
8. AOD 70.5


Point Standings round 4-completed

1. Horsemen 33.0
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 37.0
3. The Gray Matters 33.0
4. The Von Trapp Family Singers 32.0
5. Black Sheep Squadron 12.0
6. The TeePees 12.5
7. Outsiders 11.0
8. AOD 16.5

TOTAL COMBINED FINAL POINTS after 4 Rounds completed


FINAL 4


1. Horsemen 148.5
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 151.0
3. The Gray Matters 121.5
4. Outsiders 111.5


Point Standings round 5-ongoing


1. Horsemen 27.5
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 10.5
3. The Gray Matters 6.0
4. Outsiders 11.0



Point Standings Totals counting round 5-ongoing


1. Horsemen 176.0
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 161.5
3. The Gray Matters 127.5
4. Outsiders 122.5













games still ongoing for round 5

[Iccinot Nabrus]

Game 5842307 won by The Grey Matters in Round 9.

[ultraman]

outsiders win 5842294 but it took 11 rounds

[Blitzaholic]

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updated






6. *WPBRJ , Meggy, Hacx5nine, Riskier than you---------------------------------------Block Heads
7. *bigragooch, jgalioto, geoe, Haggis_McMutton, Blindmatt, Drew483-------------Bigragooch and His Immortals
8. *Natascha, dragon dor, pascalleke, ronc8649, wilco---------------------------------Hun buns
9. *Marfski, MEK, speed, gcwca_4_life----------------------------------------------------Death from Above
10.*easy n dirty, vexx, paulg, goggles paisano-------------------------------------------The Von Trapp Family Singers
11.*Iccinot Nabrus, kingkoswyn, Phil Gates, LaughingCavalier-------------------------The Gray Matters
12.*taxmanjle, shaneramma, JockDoc, Supposesublys, SC MAN------------------------Magic City Maruaders
13.*iambligh, littlebrother2k7, scorpion86, Iron Maid, hiddendragon, andy1975-----Black Sheep Squadron
14.*sour, gehrem, blockhead15, popeyelvc------------------------------------------------The TeePees
15.*Theotherone, desmondI08, jmelovesGod, brentalexander--------------------------Bruce Brothers
16.*Bigballinstalin, Nola_Lifer, Bigus_Dogus, Amish Ninja, Scottyboymck-----------1 Brit & Crescent City Conquerors
17.*Woodruff, jlduff, Bolo XXXV, Armadillo----------------------------------------------Name to be Determined
18.*ultraman, reahma, magneto_acolyte, elmerfudd-----------------------------------Outsiders
19.*King sam, Gold Knight, jpcloet, murphy16, BluU------------------------------------AOD
20.*rbelgrod, paddy the cat, the true north, phantomzero-----------------------------Regulated Sexahloics




point standings for round 1 and the Sweet 16 that advanced, congratzzz
Teams: The ordered signups
1. Horsemen 44.0
2. Rangers of the North 21.5
3. Four-Skins 22.0
4. Bigragooch and His Immortals 35.5
5. Hun buns 7.0
6. Death from Above 9.0
7. Magic City Maruaders 10.0
8. The Gray Matters 38.5
9. The Von Trapp Family Singers 22.5
10. Black Sheep Squadron 15.0
11. The TeePees 29.5
12. Bruce Brothers 27.0
13. One Brit and the Crescent City Conquerors 21.5
14. Outsiders 45.5
15. AOD 22.0
16. Regulated Sexahloics 20.0



point standings totaled for round 2
Teams: The ordered signups
1. Horsemen 33.0
2. Rangers of the North 22.0
3. Four-Skins 20.0
4. Bigragooch and His Immortals 36.5
5. Hun buns 15.0
6. Death from Above 15.0
7. Magic City Maruaders 3.0
8. The Gray Matters 27.5
9. The Von Trapp Family Singers 21.0
10. Black Sheep Squadron 30.0
11. The TeePees 33.0
12. Bruce Brothers 4.0
13. One Brit and the Crescent City Conquerors 16.5
14. Outsiders 27.5
15. AOD 21.0
16. Regulated Sexaholics 15.0




TOTAL COMBINED FINAL POINTS after Round 1 & 2
and the Final 12 or the DIRTY DOZEN that advanced, congratzzz




1. Horsemen 77.0
2. Rangers of the North 43.5
3. Four-Skins 42.0
4. Bigragooch and His Immortals 72.0
5. The Gray Matters 66.0
6. The Von Trapp Family Singers 43.5
7. Black Sheep Squadron 45.0
8. The TeePees 62.5
9. One Brit and the Crescent City Conquerors 38.0
10. Outsiders 73.0
11. AOD 43.0
12. Regulated Sexaholics 35.0



point standings totaled for round 3

Teams: The ordered signups



1. Horsemen 38.5
2. Rangers of the North 7.0
3. Four-Skins 5.0
4. Bigragooch and His Immortals 42.0
5. The Gray Matters 32.5
6. The Von Trapp Family Singers 35.5
7. Black Sheep Squadron 9.0
8. The TeePees 7.5
9. One Brit and the Crescent City Conquerors 5.0
10. Outsiders 27.5
11. AOD 27.5
12. Regulated Sexaholics 11.0



TOTAL COMBINED FINAL POINTS after 3 Rounds



1. Horsemen 115.5
2. Rangers of the North 50.5
3. Four-Skins 47.0
4. Bigragooch and His Immortals 114.0
5. The Gray Matters 88.5
6. The Von Trapp Family Singers 79.0
7. Black Sheep Squadron 54.0
8. The TeePees 70.0
9. One Brit and the Crescent City Conquerors 43.0
10. Outsiders 100.5
11. AOD 70.5
12. Regulated Sexaholics 46.0


ELITE 8


1. Horsemen 115.5
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 114.0
3. The Gray Matters 88.5
4. The Von Trapp Family Singers 79.0
5. Black Sheep Squadron 54.0
6. The TeePees 70.0
7. Outsiders 100.5
8. AOD 70.5



Point Standings round 4-completed


1. Horsemen 33.0
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 37.0
3. The Gray Matters 33.0
4. The Von Trapp Family Singers 32.0
5. Black Sheep Squadron 12.0
6. The TeePees 12.5
7. Outsiders 11.0
8. AOD 16.5



TOTAL COMBINED FINAL POINTS after 4 Rounds completed


FINAL 4




1. Horsemen 148.5
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 151.0
3. The Gray Matters 121.5
4. Outsiders 111.5



Point Standings round 5-ongoing




1. Horsemen 27.5
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 10.5
3. The Gray Matters 6.0
4. Outsiders 11.0





Point Standings Totals counting round 5-ongoing




1. Horsemen 176.0
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 161.5
3. The Gray Matters 127.5
4. Outsiders 122.5













games still ongoing for round 5






ongoing

[Blitzaholic]

Game 5842307


won by


The Grey Matters


in Round 9.

reviewing

[Blitzaholic]

outsiders win



5842294


but it took 11 rounds

well you beat us, ugh





adding points soon

[ultraman]

and one more and final win for the outsiders, game # 5842316, in rd 8

[Blitzaholic]

and one more and final win for the outsiders, game # 5842316,


in rd 8

wow, nice job ultra and team, we lost out last 3 of 4 games to you, dang it

[Blitzaholic]

Game 5842296


2009-11-16 22:53:13 - Bigragooch, Drew483, Geoe, jgalioto won the game


2009-11-16 22:53:13 - Iccinot Nabrus lost 20 points
2009-11-16 22:53:13 - Phil Gates lost 20 points
2009-11-16 22:53:13 - laughingcavalier lost 20 points
2009-11-16 22:53:13 - kingkoswyn lost 20 points
2009-11-16 22:53:13 - Bigragooch gained 20 points
2009-11-16 22:53:13 - Drew483 gained 20 points
2009-11-16 22:53:13 - Geoe gained 20 points
2009-11-16 22:53:13 - jgalioto gained 20 points


2009-11-16 22:53:13 - Bigragooch, Drew483, Geoe, jgalioto won the game +5.0

[Blitzaholic]

Game 5842308


2009-11-14 14:59:50 - Iccinot Nabrus, Phil Gates, laughingcavalier, kingkoswyn won the game


2009-11-14 14:59:50 - Bigragooch lost 20 points
2009-11-14 14:59:50 - Drew483 lost 20 points
2009-11-14 14:59:50 - Geoe lost 20 points
2009-11-14 14:59:50 - jgalioto lost 20 points
2009-11-14 14:59:50 - Iccinot Nabrus gained 20 points
2009-11-14 14:59:50 - Phil Gates gained 20 points
2009-11-14 14:59:50 - laughingcavalier gained 20 points
2009-11-14 14:59:50 - kingkoswyn gained 20 points


2009-11-14 14:59:50 - Iccinot Nabrus, Phil Gates, laughingcavalier, kingkoswyn won the game +5.0

[Blitzaholic]

Game 5842310

2009-11-15 19:24:30 - Iccinot Nabrus, Phil Gates, laughingcavalier, kingkoswyn won the game


2009-11-15 19:24:30 - Bigragooch lost 20 points
2009-11-15 19:24:30 - Drew483 lost 20 points
2009-11-15 19:24:30 - Geoe lost 20 points
2009-11-15 19:24:30 - jgalioto lost 20 points
2009-11-15 19:24:30 - Iccinot Nabrus gained 20 points
2009-11-15 19:24:30 - Phil Gates gained 20 points
2009-11-15 19:24:30 - laughingcavalier gained 20 points
2009-11-15 19:24:30 - kingkoswyn gained 20 points


2009-11-15 19:24:30 - Iccinot Nabrus, Phil Gates, laughingcavalier, kingkoswyn won the game



+5.0 point, won in round 10

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Point Standings Totals counting round 5-ongoing


1. Horsemen 176.0
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 166.5
3. The Gray Matters 143.0
4. Outsiders 133.0







games still ongoing in this round

[Blitzaholic]

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awaiting one more game

[Bigragooch]

Done ... Game 5842295 won by B&HI in round 13.

[laughingcavalier]

Congrats to Bigragooch & His Immortals: you are worthy finalists now you have beaten us Give those Horsemen hell!

Top tourney, Blitz, must be one of the best I've played. Nice points structure, fun maps, challenging settings, good teams... the firm but fair, and always welcoming Mr Holic at the helm. Just wish we could have finished a couple of spots higher & it would have been perfect!

Looking forward to more. Just one thought for the future: if you could extend the joining deadline to 48 hours before you start losing points, would take the sweat out for us amateurs & still get games going promptly.

[Blitzaholic]

Done ... Game 5842295 won by B&HI in round 13.

adding soon

[Blitzaholic]

Congrats to Bigragooch & His Immortals: you are worthy finalists now you have beaten us Give those Horsemen hell!

Top tourney, Blitz, must be one of the best I've played. Nice points structure, fun maps, challenging settings, good teams... the firm but fair, and always welcoming Mr Holic at the helm. Just wish we could have finished a couple of spots higher & it would have been perfect!

Looking forward to more. Just one thought for the future: if you could extend the joining deadline to 48 hours before you start losing points, would take the sweat out for us amateurs & still get games going promptly.

thank you very much laughingcavalier and 100% agreed on the 48 hours, I may even make it 72 hours next time


In fact, if Bigragooch agrees, I will let all have 48 hours to join the finals games, sound ok Bigragooch?

[Geoe]

My hats off to the Gray Matters--they were really a great team and a worthy opponent!

One nit that I did notice is that the post on the first page lists them as having won game 5842310 against us, but that wasn't a game we played against them so I think that is an error. I don't think it affected our points so it probably doesn't matter anyway but I thought I would mention it.

Blitz, I would like to thank you for running this tournament since I am sure it has been a ton of work.

One request I would like to make as we head into the final round is to reconsider removing the -6 points that we got for failing to sign up for some games on time. I understand the need for that rule and really have no problem with the resolution that was reached with Bigragooch if we were playing any other team in the finals. But given that we are playing the team that happens to contain the organizer of the tournament I think that you guys have an unfair advantage with regards to the negative point rule. In effect, it is impossible for your team to be unaware that the games are starting because you are the one who gets to start them. I hope that makes sense.

Again, I just want to reiterate that I don't have a problem with the rule in general and think it is fair if it applies to everyone equally. But in this case, there is no realistic way that it would have applied to your team at any point, so it basically gives us an unfair handicap when being compared to your team.

In addition, I think the spirit of the rule is to insure that no teams are deadbeating and failing to join games on time which is a pain for everyone. I'd like to think that by this time both teams have proved that we are committed to the tournament so the rule has little value anyway. So for purposes of deciding the final winner, I would propose that the "negative point" slates are wiped clean.

It probably won't matter anyway when you guys beat us by 20 , but I thought I would mention it now because if we end up losing by 6 or less I think we will have a legitimate concern and I would think from your perspective you would want to feel like you beat us on fair terms rather than because we had a handicap that you didn't have.

I understand if you guys disagree, but wanted to bring it up as a topic of conversation now rather than at the end in case it happens to matter.

In either case, good luck in the finals--I'm sure it will be fun!

[king sam]

Congrats guys, and good luck. Blitz well done

[Bigragooch]

That is an interesting point by my teammate Geoe and one I hadn't thought of previously. However, I don't think it makes a difference either way. Here's why:

If I understand the standings correctly, going into the final round, the scores are as follows:

1. Horsemen 176.0
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 171.5 (or 177.5 if the penalty were removed)

There are 9 games left if B&HI win 5 and Horsemen win 4, the final score would be (assuming 5.5 per game):

1. Horsemen 198.0
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 199.0 (or 205.0 if the penalty were removed)

On the other hand, if B&HI win 4 and Horsemen win 5, the final score would be:

1. Horsemen 203.5
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 193.5 (or 199.5 if the penalty were removed)

Basically, it all comes down to who wins the most games in the final match up. Please let me know if you see an error in my calculations.

And I am fine providing 48 or even 72 hours for signups in the final round (especially with the holidays approaching).

Thanks Blitz!

[Blitzaholic]

My hats off to the Gray Matters--they were really a great team and a worthy opponent!

One nit that I did notice is that the post on the first page lists them as having won game 5842310 against us, but that wasn't a game we played against them so I think that is an error. I don't think it affected our points so it probably doesn't matter anyway but I thought I would mention it.

Blitz, I would like to thank you for running this tournament since I am sure it has been a ton of work.

One request I would like to make as we head into the final round is to reconsider removing the -6 points that we got for failing to sign up for some games on time. I understand the need for that rule and really have no problem with the resolution that was reached with Bigragooch if we were playing any other team in the finals. But given that we are playing the team that happens to contain the organizer of the tournament I think that you guys have an unfair advantage with regards to the negative point rule. In effect, it is impossible for your team to be unaware that the games are starting because you are the one who gets to start them. I hope that makes sense.

Again, I just want to reiterate that I don't have a problem with the rule in general and think it is fair if it applies to everyone equally. But in this case, there is no realistic way that it would have applied to your team at any point, so it basically gives us an unfair handicap when being compared to your team.

In addition, I think the spirit of the rule is to insure that no teams are deadbeating and failing to join games on time which is a pain for everyone. I'd like to think that by this time both teams have proved that we are committed to the tournament so the rule has little value anyway. So for purposes of deciding the final winner, I would propose that the "negative point" slates are wiped clean.

It probably won't matter anyway when you guys beat us by 20 , but I thought I would mention it now because if we end up losing by 6 or less I think we will have a legitimate concern and I would think from your perspective you would want to feel like you beat us on fair terms rather than because we had a handicap that you didn't have.

I understand if you guys disagree, but wanted to bring it up as a topic of conversation now rather than at the end in case it happens to matter.

In either case, good luck in the finals--I'm sure it will be fun!

The rules are the rules Geoe, all knew them before all signed up. The points will stay as they are. With that said, it matters NONE, look at the total points, see them? The team that is going to win this must win a majority and 5 out of 9 games, regardless of how you slice it. The fact is you had minus 12 points and I gave + 6 points back to you for free and I did NOT have too, but, I heard Bigragooch reasoning and gave them back to you. If I would of added the -12 (which I could of) then we would only need to win 3 of the final 9 games, but, I did NOT do that, it ends up fair as you can be, both teams play 9 games, champion who wins 5 of the 9 are crowned champs. All teams do have it fair whether I am organizer or not, I send out a massive PM to all that need to join games at same time. I was more than fair by giving those points back to you, and by doing so, this makes it so the winner has to win a majority of the 9 games, that is the fairest way you can do it.

Thank you for the compliments of enjoying the tourney and staying loyal Geoe to it, and yes, it is very time consuming and takes a tremendous amount of work.





edit:

That is an interesting point by my teammate Geoe and one I hadn't thought of previously. However, I don't think it makes a difference either way. Here's why:

If I understand the standings correctly, going into the final round, the scores are as follows:

1. Horsemen 176.0
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 171.5 (or 177.5 if the penalty were removed)

There are 9 games left if B&HI win 5 and Horsemen win 4, the final score would be (assuming 5.5 per game):

1. Horsemen 198.0
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 199.0 (or 205.0 if the penalty were removed)

On the other hand, if B&HI win 4 and Horsemen win 5, the final score would be:

1. Horsemen 203.5
2. Bigragooch and His Immortals 193.5 (or 199.5 if the penalty were removed)

Basically, it all comes down to who wins the most games in the final match up. Please let me know if you see an error in my calculations.

And I am fine providing 48 or even 72 hours for signups in the final round (especially with the holidays approaching).

Thanks Blitz!

Bigragooch is 100% correct, it matters none, either way you slice it, the champs of this tourney must win 5 of the 9 games or a majority to be crowned champs. With this being said and the final 2 teams compromising and agreeing, I will extend the time for the finals and holidays for teams to join within 48 hours, after 48 hours, it will be minus 1 Match point (MP).
If there is a real concern or good explanation for someone NOT joining on time and you post in advance, I could extend it. I am a very reasonable person and make firm attempts to be as impartial as possible. I wish all to have Happy Holidays and I can start or make the 1st 3 games sometime Thanksgiving night or the day after, so look for them then. I am letting you all know this in advance/ Good luck to all, excellent job on your teams remarkable accomplishments to reach this far. it was a grind with awesome teams in this. Respects, Blitzaholic