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Postby wiggybowler on Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:58 pm

nice improvements
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Postby DuneMe on Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:09 pm

Nice work. This site is making the right moves. . .

Couldn't put the programs on my work laptop so, counting cards was gettin' old. I agree, I lose the advantage if others don't count but, what do you do.
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Postby ColinM on Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:25 pm

lackattack wrote:
ColinM wrote:Lack, love the card counter, but please can we have My Games the way it used to be? Or at least to have it as an option?

Take a week to get used to it and if you still feel this way post a poll in the Suggestions forum. If enough people prefer My Games without tabs after giving it enough time I would consider changing it. Sometimes our reaction is to resist change because we're not used to it, I want to make sure that isn't a factor.


Well, I'll do the poll if I must, but I really cannot see how making people click in so many places is more user friendly than having them all nicely together. As someone who scrolled down the page to see all games everyday, I know there is no way I personally am going to prefer looking on 4 seperate pages, however long I have to 'get used to it'

Those others who have already expressed a dislike of this new look, please keep a look out for the poll a week from now!
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Postby DTT on Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:42 pm

Fantastic updates!
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Postby Ham on Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:51 pm

I at first wanted the old my games setup back too. Im already used to the new setup and like its features. Although I wouldnt mind having a feature that allows you to change which setup in your profile settings.
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Postby hendy on Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:56 pm

How about when a teamate deadbeats and their partner wins, they don't get points!
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keepem coming

Postby monster10 on Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:56 pm

keep the awesome updates dude :D :D :D :D :D 8)
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Postby ColinM on Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:58 pm

Ham wrote:Although I wouldnt mind having a feature that allows you to change which setup in your profile settings.


:idea: All it really needs is a 5th tab on the My Games page which says "All"
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Postby rocker0987 on Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:17 pm

Great updates keep up the good work.

and again great idea about the deadbeat teammate thing.

look farward to future improvments.
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Re: [15-Apr-2007] Card Counters

Postby jvrprr on Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:18 pm

Excellent! very good updates! love them all
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The cards counter is awesom!

Postby Ofernicus on Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:01 pm

great work, guys! :D
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future feature?

Postby tkt on Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:16 pm

hey, i've an idea.


Perhaps an feature that would allow a user to choose to be notified by email if it's their turn. The system already notifies for 1st turns in new games. Just a thought.
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ummm

Postby goldenhero on Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:37 pm

After all the positive remarks, I gotta add one negative. It was great until I got to the part about new recruits not being able to join doubles or triples until they earn a new rank. I personally don't like this because i like to coordinate team attacks and do better with teammates. Not to mention for me now it seems like it will be impossible to get that first promo just because im no good at singles games
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Postby sully800 on Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:46 pm

ColinM wrote:Well, I'll do the poll if I must, but I really cannot see how making people click in so many places is more user friendly than having them all nicely together. As someone who scrolled down the page to see all games everyday, I know there is no way I personally am going to prefer looking on 4 seperate pages, however long I have to 'get used to it'

Those others who have already expressed a dislike of this new look, please keep a look out for the poll a week from now!


I'm guessing you are a free member? If that's true then you only have 4 open games at a time so I can see why having the games under different tabs might seem inefficient to you. However I don't see why there would be a need to check the recently finished games every day, and the wating games or ones in which you are eliminated aren't as important either (I certainly don't check them every day but I see why some would).

Anyway, for the premium members who have 20, 30 or 100 (for the JR's around here) games going at a time it makes a lot of sense to seperate the games page into tabs. I would say that Lack's time is better spent working on other to-do list items instead of giving people an option between the two display formats. However if an overwhelming amount of people like to see it the old way then maybe it should indeed become optional.
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Re: ummm

Postby sully800 on Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:50 pm

goldenhero wrote:After all the positive remarks, I gotta add one negative. It was great until I got to the part about new recruits not being able to join doubles or triples until they earn a new rank. I personally don't like this because i like to coordinate team attacks and do better with teammates. Not to mention for me now it seems like it will be impossible to get that first promo just because im no good at singles games


Your first promotion comes once you have played 5 games. There is no number of points you need to attain to become a private.

The idea is that once you have played 5 games you are familair with how the site works, you're planning on sticking around, and you probably joined the team game on purpose.

Many new recruits don't understand the way the game is set up, they often leave without finishing the games they join, and sometimes even if they are familiar with Risk they will get into a team game accidentally because they want to get started. So yes, I think this limitation one new recruits is a great feature and will improve the site dramatically.
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Postby RiskyPlayer on Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:54 pm

the latest upgrades are great.
thank you
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Postby pistastyle on Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:00 pm

I've got a bit of a problem with banning newbies from team games. Although 80% of deadbeats may be noobs, most noobs are not deadbeats. A blanket ban seems a lttle totalitarian to me.
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Postby poo-maker on Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:03 pm

pistastyle wrote:I've got a bit of a problem with banning newbies from team games. Although 80% of deadbeats may be noobs, most noobs are not deadbeats. A blanket ban seems a lttle totalitarian to me.


they only need to play 5 games....
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Re: ummm

Postby pistastyle on Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:05 pm

sully800 wrote:
goldenhero wrote:After all the positive remarks, I gotta add one negative. It was great until I got to the part about new recruits not being able to join doubles or triples until they earn a new rank. I personally don't like this because i like to coordinate team attacks and do better with teammates. Not to mention for me now it seems like it will be impossible to get that first promo just because im no good at singles games


Your first promotion comes once you have played 5 games. There is no number of points you need to attain to become a private.

The idea is that once you have played 5 games you are familair with how the site works, you're planning on sticking around, and you probably joined the team game on purpose.

Many new recruits don't understand the way the game is set up, they often leave without finishing the games they join, and sometimes even if they are familiar with Risk they will get into a team game accidentally because they want to get started. So yes, I think this limitation one new recruits is a great feature and will improve the site dramatically.


This is a good point. Still, I would favor a less extreme rule that, for instance, booted a new recruit after one missed turn. This way, the noobs who are actually serious players don't suffer, and the ones who are deadbeats don't cause too much harm.
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Postby Smurf75 on Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:12 am

billval3 wrote:
i finally can unistall this shitty firefox and start using IE for cc again


That's funny, you actually prefer to use IE?!? :shock:


Hell yes! :lol:
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Postby iAnonymous on Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:19 am

I've won a team game as a New Recruit...
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But seems benefitial, since I constantly see them deadbeating in any kind of game.
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Re: [15-Apr-2007] Card Counters

Postby tals on Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:28 am

lackattack wrote:
My Games Improvement
My Games now has tabs for each section. Why fill your screen with games you're not interested in?


Looks really good - thanks, can we have a completed games tab as well so we can easily see past games.

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Postby jc103 on Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:37 am

All great, apart from;

NO NO NO NO NO!

Card counting is a SKILL! So many players dont bother and rightly pay the price! Why take away that advantage?

Besides which, it was easier to quickly scroll through games/elim/recent when they were on the same page.... dont particularly like that either =S
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Postby podge on Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:42 am

Great job Lack love the changes.

How high up the to do list is bulk mailing ?
And could it be a feature that comes with tourny privs rather than across the board.
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Postby Enigma on Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:44 am

jc103 wrote:All great, apart from;

NO NO NO NO NO!

Card counting is a SKILL! So many players dont bother and rightly pay the price! Why take away that advantage?

AMEN!
thats exactly what ive been trying to say here: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17041
ill restate- good players use other ways to keep track of cards- y hand a strategic tool to the rest on a silver platter??
ive loved every other update but please take this one off.
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