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1984 (George Orwell) Map - VACATION PENDING PERMISSION -
Posted:
Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:40 pm
by blue sam3
I decided that we need a map based on this great book. After much playing around with a base map I found, I decided to start off simple, and just add borders to it, (don't worry, it's public domain, go
here for the permissions), and then redo it based on suggestions from the community.
Stats:
44 territories (8 Eurasia, 5 Eastasia, 10 Disputed, 5 Oceana (SE), 4 Oceana (SW), 12 Oceana (N), 21 Oceana (Total)
7 continents (3 standalone, and 3 which combine to form a larger continent)
Future Changes:
Suggestions needed
Current Version (V7):
- Click image to enlarge.
Changes:
Added AS-1 inset
General rearrangement
I will remove the problems around the edge in the next update
V6:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3936/1984ccmapv7qg8.jpgV5:
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5485/1984ccmapv5ub8.jpgChanges:
wasted space reduced
V4:
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5347/1984ccmapv4yr3.jpgChanges:
put sea borders on
brightened map up
inverted army circles
redid text to make more readable
V3:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1733/1984ccmapv3bim2.jpgChanges:
redid entire map
V2:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4445/1984ccmapv2jj0.jpg23 territories
7 continents (3 standalone ones, and three which combine to form a larger continent)
Changes:
-Subdivided Oceana
-Added another territory
-Graphical Changes
Original:
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4961/1984ccmapbw9.jpg
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:19 pm
by Hatchman
Very cool.
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:22 pm
by This Is Sparta
I absolutely loved this book. I would definitely play the map, I'd fully support you if you were to make this map. It should be very interesting.
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:52 am
by MrBenn
I was going to ask where the pigs were, but then remembered that was a different book
22 territories is probably a bit on the small side, and the attack rule (only attacking through disupted areas) provides a lot of dead ends and bottlenecks.
Are the red arrows supposed to indicate 1-way attacks? America, Austrailia and the Death Isles look unconquerable
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:17 am
by blue sam3
Look in the 'planned changes section below the map, I'm going to change the arrows, I just forgot to change it in this version. I've added one more territory in Africa, and may add more later. I might make up some more disputed areas later, to reduce the bottlenecking.
Also, I might make an Animal Farm map later
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:33 pm
by Juan_Bottom
MrBenn wrote:22 territories is probably a bit on the small side, and the attack rule (only attacking through disupted areas) provides a lot of dead ends and bottlenecks.
Seconded!
I fully support this map though. Fully.
blue sam3 wrote:Also, I might make an Animal Farm map later
I have no idea how that will work... It would be pretty small like doodle earth though, wouldn't it?
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:39 pm
by bbqpenguin
this is brilliant. fucking brilliant. might replace classic as my favorite if it goes through
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:35 pm
by Juan_Bottom
bbqpenguin wrote: might replace classic
Shssss
the walls have ears....
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:54 am
by blue sam3
The only problem is that it might be covered by the same copyright that classic is
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:16 am
by blue sam3
Anyway, V2:
- Click image to enlarge.
Changes:
-Subdivided Oceana
-Added another territory
-Graphical Changes (gif image doesn't show properly, it'll look better once I find somewhere that'll let me upload .xcf files)
Future Changes:
-Remove 'Only attack through disputed' thing
-Get the graphics sorted out
-Change bonuses
-Fix one-way arrow thing
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:40 pm
by bbqpenguin
Juan_Bottom wrote:bbqpenguin wrote: might replace classic
Shssss
the walls have ears....
hehe i forgot big brother was watching
V3
Posted:
Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:51 am
by blue sam3
Sorry about the delay, V3 is finally ready.
Changes for V3:
Pretty much everything
- Click image to enlarge.
What do you think? Any Suggestions?
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:46 am
by blue sam3
forgot to make the sea borders visible, I brightened it up and made a couple of other changes while I was at it.
V4:
- Click image to enlarge.
Any ideas for what I could put in the top right hand corner?
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:59 am
by mr. incrediball
picture of the book? i dunno.
brilliant map, tho...
EDIT: wait, wait, wait!
the big brother poster! or ingsoc, or something along those lines.
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:18 pm
by Juan_Bottom
blue sam3 wrote:Any ideas for what I could put in the top right hand corner?
The map?
I think that you've left waaaaaaayyyyyy to much space behind. I'm certain that you'll hear about it soon from the pros too. I think it would be best if you filled as much space as possible with game area. If you must have dead-space, maybe try filling it in with some explination to immerse the user into the fatasy... and allow them to really appreciate the map. Imagination!
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:18 pm
by Khorasani
Very good idea to make a 1984 map.. however, I think East Asia should be bigger. And India looks a bit weird. Ideally, the three factions would balance each other out in reinforcements, since they were equally balanced in the book?
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:54 am
by blue sam3
- Click image to enlarge.
-that's the map it's based on, it's as described in the book
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:32 pm
by blue sam3
V5, with wasted space reduced:
- Click image to enlarge.
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:22 pm
by ManBungalow
I fully support this map, seeing how we lost the classic map.
The draft seems good, but what's in 1984? From what I remember : there's not a lot to go on...maybe you could include planes etc. I dunno, it's a while since I read the book
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:13 am
by blue sam3
What about giving some territories rocket bombs, allowing them to bombard other powers territories?
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:52 pm
by MrBenn
My biggest concern is that this map doesn't convey any sort of 'Big Brother' aspect of the book.
Yes, there is mention of bits of the world and so on, but the things that stick in my head are the Ministry of Truth, the Propaganda Machine... If I wanted to play on a 1984 board, I'd want to feel an overwhelming sense of paranoia... I think the board needs some way of being able to subvert Big Brother...
The book was less about conquering the world, and more about conquering the mind...
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:28 pm
by KoE_Sirius
Maybe you can have a central part of the map for the burning of books ? This is a foundermental part of the story and its not included in the map.
Telescreens/cameras on the borders of each territory would be good too.
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
Territories called the Ministry of Love and Records Department need a small place on the map.
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
Good luck with it.great idea
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:53 am
by blue sam3
thanks for the suggestions, I'll get going with it when I get home tonight
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:55 pm
by blue sam3
sorry about the delay, V6:
- Click image to enlarge.
Re: 1984 (George Orwell) Map
Posted:
Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:14 am
by blue sam3
Do you prefer the above map, V5 or a combination of the two?
Any other suggestions?