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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby natty dread on Sun May 16, 2010 4:04 am

Ok, you need to post a design brief for your map. Check out the design brief thread for instructions.
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby alster on Sun May 16, 2010 5:45 am

There's been quite a few wars in Afghanistan during the past 100+ years. If up to it, why not do a serie - e.g. British/Russian campaigns back in the days, the Soviet intervention backing the domestic Commies and then the US/Nato invasion following the Afghan attacks on the US? That would be an interesting serie like the Crusades maps or the AoR maps.
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby gharanai on Sun May 16, 2010 4:25 pm

natty_dread wrote:Ok, you need to post a design brief for your map. Check out the design brief thread for instructions.

Just submitted it, thanks for letting me know.
You have been of a lot of help so thanks again and keep them coming :D
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby gharanai on Sun May 16, 2010 4:32 pm

alstergren wrote:There's been quite a few wars in Afghanistan during the past 100+ years. If up to it, why not do a serie - e.g. British/Russian campaigns back in the days, the Soviet intervention backing the domestic Commies and then the US/Nato invasion following the Afghan attacks on the US? That would be an interesting serie like the Crusades maps or the AoR maps.

That is something that I have in mind I could go back to the Great Game where Afghanistan was situated between the British Loin at South-East and the Soviet Bear at North, starting from almost early 19th century till late 20th.
Then there is the Allied invasion and war on terror, so yes there could be a series of maps on the topic let's see what I come up next with.

Afghan attacks on the US

I really don't want to get political on this but Afghanistan never had the capability to attack US and neither did so, it was a Terrorist act of Extremists who were staying in Afghanistan, and back in Afghanistan we have a code of conduct which says "if someone comes in refuge to you, you better give your head away for saving his/hers.", that's the only reason Afghanistan got involved in someone else's war.
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby TaCktiX on Sun May 16, 2010 9:40 pm

This map has somehow evaded my notice. Anywho's, a fairly good first draft with a clear explanation of all gameplay. The bonuses I think are inflated, with too few territories in the North to justify +7. Consider that Asia in Classic has 12 territories defended at I think 5 points for a +7.

I think you could have a better title for the map than "The Afghan Campaign," as I can think off the top of my head of three wars this could apply to. The one you portray, the Soviet one in the 80's, and the present one with the United States. Perhaps Afghan Civil War or somesuch.

As for the design brief, please go ahead and do one.
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby gharanai on Mon May 17, 2010 3:05 pm

TaCktiX wrote:This map has somehow evaded my notice. Anywho's, a fairly good first draft with a clear explanation of all gameplay. The bonuses I think are inflated, with too few territories in the North to justify +7. Consider that Asia in Classic has 12 territories defended at I think 5 points for a +7.

I think you could have a better title for the map than "The Afghan Campaign," as I can think off the top of my head of three wars this could apply to. The one you portray, the Soviet one in the 80's, and the present one with the United States. Perhaps Afghan Civil War or somesuch.

As for the design brief, please go ahead and do one.


Thanks dear for your suggestions both of them ( bonus inflation and name of the map) is taken in consideration, specially about the map I guess you are right and since I am looking forward to creating a series of maps about Afghanistan, I guess 'Afghanistan: Civil War' could be more appropriate for that with next maps starting in the same way 'Afghanistan: XXX'.

About the bonus I am not pretty sure because if I lower that then what about the rest of the zones they will be effected to, so can't really decide on that now, I guess some more suggestions would be very helpful on this matter.
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby TaCktiX on Mon May 17, 2010 9:44 pm

Bonuses across the board were a little bit high.
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby Industrial Helix on Fri May 28, 2010 8:27 am

Congrats, this map has met the criteria to be moved on to the gameplay workshop. I look forward to its continued development!
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby gharanai on Fri May 28, 2010 8:41 am

Thanks a lot and I will try my best to keep it to the highest limits so it could match the standards already set my our great Cartographers of CC.

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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby Evil DIMwit on Fri May 28, 2010 2:40 pm

Does Kabul count as a regional capital for the Central Zone? If so, put that on the legend.
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby Industrial Helix on Fri May 28, 2010 10:14 pm

gharanai wrote:Thanks a lot and I will try my best to keep it to the highest limits so it could match the standards already set my our great Cryptographers of CC.


Do you mean Cartographers? Cryptology is the study of codes :P
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby shakeycat on Sat May 29, 2010 8:15 pm

Paktia and Paktika, right next to each other? Real geography or no, this is calling for many misdeploys/misattacks.
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby Industrial Helix on Sat May 29, 2010 9:18 pm

shakeycat wrote:Paktia and Paktika, right next to each other? Real geography or no, this is calling for many misdeploys/misattacks.


Its the Shanxi/Shanxxi problem all over again!
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby gharanai on Sun May 30, 2010 2:47 am

Evil DIMwit wrote:Does Kabul count as a regional capital for the Central Zone? If so, put that on the legend.

Well that's something that has to be debated since I initially wanted it to be part of Central Zone but then I was suggested to keep it a standalone region starting with Initial Neutral troops (5-9 something).
Suggestions on this would be highly appreciated.

Industrial Helix wrote:Do you mean Cartographers? Cryptology is the study of codes

My bad :P actually I was reading a book on Cryptography and that's where all it mixed up :D thanks for the correction.

shakeycat wrote:Paktia and Paktika, right next to each other? Real geography or no, this is calling for many misdeploys/misattacks.

I agree, it surely could cause a little problem with gameplay but that's the real geographical placement of the provinces as of 1996.
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby natty dread on Sun May 30, 2010 2:59 am

I agree, it surely could cause a little problem with gameplay but that's the real geographical placement of the provinces as of 1996.


In CC, gameplay comes first, geographical accuracy second. We're making maps to be played, for entertainment, not educational purposes...

I still strongly suggest keeping Kabul separate from any bonus zones.

Also: Zonal capital? Is this an official term? because to me, Zone capital would sound better...
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby Joodoo on Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:41 pm

I dunno about Kabul being able to attack the zonal capitals...
Maybe bombard would be a better option?
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby gharanai on Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:49 pm

natty_dread wrote:
I agree, it surely could cause a little problem with gameplay but that's the real geographical placement of the provinces as of 1996.


In CC, gameplay comes first, geographical accuracy second. We're making maps to be played, for entertainment, not educational purposes...

I still strongly suggest keeping Kabul separate from any bonus zones.

Also: Zonal capital? Is this an official term? because to me, Zone capital would sound better...


If all agrees then no problem I will change one of those regions name.
About Kabul being separate I think I will go with that option and about Zonal Capital, Yes it's an official term to be used in provincial and zonal administrations.
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby gharanai on Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:50 pm

Joodoo wrote:I dunno about Kabul being able to attack the zonal capitals...
Maybe bombard would be a better option?

Suggestion taken into consideration and I will have to agree that it's a good one, thanks for sharing.
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby Evil DIMwit on Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:06 am

gharanai wrote:
Joodoo wrote:I dunno about Kabul being able to attack the zonal capitals...
Maybe bombard would be a better option?

Suggestion taken into consideration and I will have to agree that it's a good one, thanks for sharing.


I like the idea of attacking from the country's capital to zone capitals, and from the zone capitals to the rest of the region. How would bombardment be better?
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby Balsiefen on Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:19 am

I'm afraid that at the moment the gameplay may be a little too open, I can see quite a few games on this map ending without anyone ever taking a continent. Also, as gameplay stands, the bonus for central zone is far too low, not only for the number of boarder territories, but due to the fact that it borders every continent and will be the main attack path between other zones.
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Re: The Afghan Campaign

Postby MrBenn on Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:36 pm

[Moved]

It would appear that development of this map has stalled. If the mapmaker wants to continue with the map, then one of the Foundry Moderators will be able to help put the thread back into the Foundry system, after an update has been made. ;-)
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