PotC- AWE (cutler beckett is dead, game over)

[nagerous]

You can't get a lynch without a bandwagon.

[wicked]

Sure you can, by normal voting backed with reason and suspicion. Bandwagonning is voting for someone just b/c everyone else is w/o a good reason.

[nagerous]

Yes but people still bandwagon even if someone gives a reasoned argument against a person. I produced a reasoned argument with quotes etc. against brown in masket's game, I come back to find a bunch of people just posting unvovte vote brown with nothing else. He was scum of course because I am the master at what I do but it was still a bandwagon in its lowest form.

[wicked]

Right, but there are no really substantial cases against anyone right now, so no reason to bandwagon on Day 1 with absolutely no evidence.

[got tonkaed]

ill remain on the record as saying that it is possibly quite best for the town to lynch wicked.

no offense of course, its just you will end up taking such a dominating role in the discussion that there is little hope if you are scum, and if you dont have any power to back up whatever it is you are doing, you could inevitably lead town in the wrong direction.

Case in point...we have had even less discussion (even though it would have been spam) because wicked went on a few page tirade about vote counts.

I just feel like the town will be better off once she is gone.

[wicked]

Sounds like someone is scared of having me in the game. Last I checked, generating conversation was a good thing for the town, and not so good for the scum. I do see your point though, and will try not to be so dominating. I'll stick to my usual role of asking a lot of questions and generating a lot of discussion. That ok?

[got tonkaed]

Sounds like someone is scared of having me in the game. Last I checked, generating conversation was a good thing for the town, and not so good for the scum. I do see your point though, and will try not to be so dominating. I'll stick to my usual role of asking a lot of questions and generating a lot of discussion. That ok?

i personally think whilst i am the pro town hero, as an archtype, on this site given the way the game is played and the quality of your average player, the style you employ is inherently anti-town.

It is a bit of a shame because you are really good at this, but you as a general rule are not a good thing for a town to have around. But, if it never works i suppose ill just hope for the time being you arent scum.

[wicked]

GT, I'm not going to post examples here, b/c really, I can't be bothered. Yes, I've made mistakes, as we all have, but I've also helped to win plenty of games, including pointing out who all the scum were in one of my last games before taking a break. You're not the primadonna always-right pro-town player. So take your BS and shove it. You're trying to manipulate things more than I am, so give me a break.

I'll be glad to talk about me all day, but that won't get us anywhere. Instead, let's look at everyone who's not even talking and see where to go from here.

[Skittles!]

Amazingly, I agree with wicked. We should be discussing and such, but every wants to lynch wicked. I voted for kwan because all he does is submarine until near the end because no one notices him.

[Neutrino]

I kinda agree with Tonka here. There is quite a substantial risk of you controling all the conversation in this game and directing it away from your scum buddies, wicked. But you could also be a great help to the town. For now, I think the possible positive benifits of keeping you around outweigh the possible negative benifits.

In other news, I agree with Skittles' assesment of Kwanton and I don't think there is very much time remaining for today. Unvote. Vote: Kwanton.

[Fircoal]

@ Wicked, yes, we get the point, I'm tempted to vote you, not because of inactivity, but because you keep on saying we need to post and not bandwagon, and yet you do nothing about it. Saying shallow words like that it doesn't matter how much you post. You aren't getting anything done. Maybe you should bring up something for better yet you can comment on the scummy thing Nag did that he still has ignored.

@ Nag

Unvote...


This is silly

Vote Fircoal

Lets use some common sense eh?

huh? I was, what I was doing was blatant bandwagonning. Voting for no reason other then bandwagonning. You know me well enough this is the type of Fircoal behavior you should expect. Along with OMGUS, vote hopping, and self voting.

Unvote
SErious Vote: Nag

Ooh a serious vote

ooh, you have nothing to say. IF you're going to vote me for spamming/bandwagonning which proves nothing then defend yourself. Really you're just looking more scummy.

I still haven't gotten a reasonable answer and you've shown that you can post. As you have in this thread, and you too afraid to answer my accusations. Is it because I'm right. Scummy baka Nag.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Unvote Vote Kwan there is no reason he should get a free pass of submaring to the end of the game like he does every game.

[wicked]

@ Wicked, yes, we get the point, I'm tempted to vote you, not because of inactivity, but because you keep on saying we need to post and not bandwagon, and yet you do nothing about it.

Well I can't MAKE you post.

And why would Nag have to defend himself from one vote on the first day? Don't see how just that is scummy, but I'll keep an open mind and sit back and watch the ensuing discussion.

[Fircoal]

@ Wicked, yes, we get the point, I'm tempted to vote you, not because of inactivity, but because you keep on saying we need to post and not bandwagon, and yet you do nothing about it.

Well I can't MAKE you post.

And why would Nag have to defend himself from one vote on the first day? Don't see how just that is scummy, but I'll keep an open mind and sit back and watch the ensuing discussion.

I know, but why coming up with a good argument you can actually start a discussion so we don't have to go through this.

Why not? It'll do a couple things for us. First of all, we'll get some discussion starting, which you agree we need, also it could lead to some scum slips.

[wicked]

fircola, I've been starting and participating in discussions all day. I'm trying not to manipulate the conversation now, and let you and Nag, or whoever and whoever else, go at it and see what shakes out.

[jnd94]

Wicked scares me because she is awesome at looking pro-town. I think Every game I've been in with her she has been either 3rd party or mafia.

[wicked]

Wicked scares me because she is awesome at looking pro-town. I think Every game I've been in with her she has been either 3rd party or mafia.

Obviously we havent played much then, as I started requesting/getting pro-town roles since I'm always an early target of all night actions.

[jnd94]

Wicked scares me because she is awesome at looking pro-town. I think Every game I've been in with her she has been either 3rd party or mafia.

Obviously we havent played much then, as I started requesting/getting pro-town roles since I'm always an early target of all night actions.

NJO
Thieves
Heroes
Bizarro World

I think you were 3rd party/scum in all those. Not 100% on Bizarro though.

[wicked]

Honestly don't remember and don't care. I've played probably around 30 games or more here. Impossible to remember them all. I do remember calculating it once though, and overall I was town much more than I was scum.

[dominationnation]

Wicked scares me because she is awesome at looking pro-town. I think Every game I've been in with her she has been either 3rd party or mafia.

Obviously we havent played much then, as I started requesting/getting pro-town roles since I'm always an early target of all night actions.

NJO
Thieves
Heroes
Bizarro World

I think you were 3rd party/scum in all those. Not 100% on Bizarro though.

wow. she is scum alot then. Wasnt she scum in sherwood? I remember that game...good times...good times

[Skoffin]

I don't know about you, but I see bandwagons as usefull. At times. Start a train and see who gets on it for what lousy reason. Not to mention if you get someone close to a lynch you can find out valuable information about the player themself, who gets on the train and how quickly they jump off depending on roleclaim, and see who tries to defend the payer.

Personally I'm all for a chu bandwagon, as usually when he is scum he doesn't sort out a fakeclaim untill needed so there'd be no time for him to lie to us
Also getting some pressure on kwan would be a good idea, ruins his plan to submarining till endgame and will force him to contribute lest he face town wrath.

[nagerous]

Wicked scares me because she is awesome at looking pro-town. I think Every game I've been in with her she has been either 3rd party or mafia.

Obviously we havent played much then, as I started requesting/getting pro-town roles since I'm always an early target of all night actions.

NJO
Thieves
Heroes
Bizarro World

I think you were 3rd party/scum in all those. Not 100% on Bizarro though.

In both heroes and NJO she was pro-town actually.

[lord voldemort]

kk will do a vc soon, ima feeling fair sick and only wanted a break.

i'll be pretty lax with the deadline, in that if there is talk and gear (useful stuff) then i won stop the day.
that is all 4 now continue on

ps i def just watched all 3 pirates last night

[diddle]

@ Wicked, yes, we get the point, I'm tempted to vote you, not because of inactivity, but because you keep on saying we need to post and not bandwagon, and yet you do nothing about it.

Well I can't MAKE you post.

And why would Nag have to defend himself from one vote on the first day? Don't see how just that is scummy, but I'll keep an open mind and sit back and watch the ensuing discussion.

One vote eh? Lets up the stakes then, and see if we can get anything positive to come out of this....

Unvote Vote Nag

[Minister Masket]

Masket and Skoffin haven't exactly been hugely active... There might be something in that. Of course, then again neither of them are ever active...

You fool! I think I'm active by my standards.
You want me to talk, I'll talk....