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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby sheepofdumb on Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:45 pm

Forgot this: Vote Slow
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:13 am

What Sully has a kill? And an investigation? What? So either he is third party JOAT or he is part of the mafia, or he is some weird role that's rather outthere. I can't imagine hipster kitty as evil though.

But I agree. We should lynch slow first.

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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby dazza2008 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:19 am

shieldgenerator7 wrote:What Sully has a kill? And an investigation? What? So either he is third party JOAT or he is part of the mafia, or he is some weird role that's rather outthere. I can't imagine hipster kitty as evil though.

But I agree. We should lynch slow first.

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I am sure he has said a few times he is a skitzo. No? Do you read the thread?

Is skitzo likely to be a third party role? Although in this game it would not surprise me.

I think slow is the best case right now. He is not really answering anything.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:45 am

dazza2008 wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:What Sully has a kill? And an investigation? What? So either he is third party JOAT or he is part of the mafia, or he is some weird role that's rather outthere. I can't imagine hipster kitty as evil though.

But I agree. We should lynch slow first.

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I am sure he has said a few times he is a skitzo. No? Do you read the thread?

Is skitzo likely to be a third party role? Although in this game it would not surprise me.

I think slow is the best case right now. He is not really answering anything.


What? skitzo is a role? I thought he was just using an adjective to describe himself for the fun of it
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby dazza2008 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:24 am

shieldgenerator7 wrote:
dazza2008 wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:What Sully has a kill? And an investigation? What? So either he is third party JOAT or he is part of the mafia, or he is some weird role that's rather outthere. I can't imagine hipster kitty as evil though.

But I agree. We should lynch slow first.

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I am sure he has said a few times he is a skitzo. No? Do you read the thread?

Is skitzo likely to be a third party role? Although in this game it would not surprise me.

I think slow is the best case right now. He is not really answering anything.


What? skitzo is a role? I thought he was just using an adjective to describe himself for the fun of it

Yeah Skitzo is a role and I thought that was what he was claiming. Is it Sully?

I think they target a player and randomly inspect, protect, kill or do nothing. Thats what the site I checked said the role does.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby slowreactor on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:51 am

It looks like it's claim or be lynched for me, so here goes:

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I am a townie. When I roleclaim, I become bulletproof and unlynchable, but I will no longer be able to vote. The reason I didn't want to offically claim was because I believe that losing my vote was essentially having me as a free lynch/kill for the mafia, since the way I see it, without a vote, you might as well be dead. Got a lot of information from here:
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Voteless

I don't know, maybe it's not as useless as I think, we'll see O.o
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby chapcrap on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:51 am

dazza2008 wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:
dazza2008 wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:What Sully has a kill? And an investigation? What? So either he is third party JOAT or he is part of the mafia, or he is some weird role that's rather outthere. I can't imagine hipster kitty as evil though.

But I agree. We should lynch slow first.

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I am sure he has said a few times he is a skitzo. No? Do you read the thread?

Is skitzo likely to be a third party role? Although in this game it would not surprise me.

I think slow is the best case right now. He is not really answering anything.


What? skitzo is a role? I thought he was just using an adjective to describe himself for the fun of it

Yeah Skitzo is a role and I thought that was what he was claiming. Is it Sully?

I think they target a player and randomly inspect, protect, kill or do nothing. Thats what the site I checked said the role does.

Seems like a skitzo could definitely be third party. Dangerous either way.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby chapcrap on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:52 am

chapcrap wrote:Seems like a skitzo could definitely be third party. Dangerous either way.

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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby drake_259 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:11 am

nice claim, i kinda believe ya but i think i wanna keep my vote on and put it to the test just in case you are mafia.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby slowreactor on Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:33 am

To prove my claim: vote drake_259.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby dazza2008 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:34 am

It should 100% be put to the test in my opinion. This 1 is easy to prove 1 way or the other.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby chapcrap on Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:43 am

slowreactor wrote:To prove my claim: vote drake_259.

How about to prove your claim, we just lynch you? You said that you become bulletproof AND unlynchable? That's a crazy combo for a roleclaim. And almost unbelievable in itself.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby slowreactor on Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:06 pm

Yes, I realize I got a very bastard role... :|

Just one thing though, even though I am unlynchable, does it still count towards one of the 3 lynches if I get hammered?
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby drake_259 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:11 pm

slowreactor wrote:Yes, I realize I got a very bastard role... :|

Just one thing though, even though I am unlynchable, does it still count towards one of the 3 lynches if I get hammered?

i would imagine so
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:06 pm

well well you claimed anyways. we knew you would. Ok, now you don't have a vote, but you're still in the game, and you can still help us catch scum. And now since you're unkillable we have a 100% confirmed townie (once the lynch test and no vote tests are passed, that is). So it's not all that bad. You're not the only voteless townie (tho I don't know strike's abilities).

I still recommend going ahead with the slow lynch just to test his unlynchability, unless we have better scum targets. I want to take a look at VS after we settle the slow case.

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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby safariguy5 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:41 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:well well you claimed anyways. we knew you would. Ok, now you don't have a vote, but you're still in the game, and you can still help us catch scum. And now since you're unkillable we have a 100% confirmed townie (once the lynch test and no vote tests are passed, that is). So it's not all that bad. You're not the only voteless townie (tho I don't know strike's abilities).

I still recommend going ahead with the slow lynch just to test his unlynchability, unless we have better scum targets. I want to take a look at VS after we settle the slow case.

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Yeah, if he's truly unlynchable, then testing the claim isn't necessarily a bad idea. I would like Sully to explain himself after this testing of slow.

As for whether it's a bastard role, I don't think so. Being invulnerable is extremely strong, so being voteless makes sense balance wise. Also, busdrivers can now drive you with someone they think is a town PR to soak up possible mafia NK's. So yes, there is still utility for a voteless townie like yourself.

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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby slowreactor on Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:01 pm

safariguy5 wrote:As for whether it's a bastard role, I don't think so. Being invulnerable is extremely strong, so being voteless makes sense balance wise. Also, busdrivers can now drive you with someone they think is a town PR to soak up possible mafia NK's. So yes, there is still utility for a voteless townie like yourself.


Wasn't there already a busdriver-like role that got killed already?
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby Victor Sullivan on Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:08 pm

Skitzo: I target someone at night, one of three things happen: I protect them, I kill them, I investigate them. I happened to target Squirrel. I received an investigation.

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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby drake_259 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:16 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:Skitzo: I target someone at night, one of three things happen: I protect them, I kill them, I investigate them. I happened to target Squirrel. I received an investigation.

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So what did you do N1 exactly?
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby Victor Sullivan on Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:37 pm

I target Jen N1. She no die, I no get investigation, so I guess protect. Maybe kill in store for N3? I no know.

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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby edocsil on Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:33 pm

slowreactor wrote:It looks like it's claim or be lynched for me, so here goes:

I am Forever Alone.

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(Yes, this is the reason I didn't have an Omegle partner.)

I am a townie. When I roleclaim, I become bulletproof and unlynchable, but I will no longer be able to vote. The reason I didn't want to offically claim was because I believe that losing my vote was essentially having me as a free lynch/kill for the mafia, since the way I see it, without a vote, you might as well be dead. Got a lot of information from here:
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Voteless

I don't know, maybe it's not as useless as I think, we'll see O.o


This actually a rather awesome role if we have busdrivers around. As good as a doc IMO. I am uncertain if wasting one of our lynches on testing his claim is a good idea. It's a pretty ballsy claim if you can't back it up.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby strike wolf on Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:38 pm

My question is are we going to be satisfied if he proves he's now voteless? Or do people still want to lynch him? I would probably be okay with leaving it at him proving he was voteless.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby safariguy5 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:55 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:I target Jen N1. She no die, I no get investigation, so I guess protect. Maybe kill in store for N3? I no know.

-Sully

This makes sense for a skitzo role. There was a similar role in Resort Mafia who would randomly do either a protection, investigation, kill, or roleblock on the target.

Actually, if we look at sully's powers, even though he's third party, his powers tend to benefit town more than they do mafia.

If Sully targets town:

1. Protection- Good for townie, keeps them alive.
2. Investigation- Good for townie, clears them from being scum.
3. Kill- Bad for townie, we lose a townie.

If Sully targets mafia:

1. Protection- Can be neutral or bad, depending on whether or not the town vig picked up on a scumtell and knew who to shoot at night. Odds of that right now are pretty low, and if we do have a town vigilante, they're wisely not killing anyone just yet because we haven't outed any extra mafia members.

2. Investigation- Good, unless he targeted the Mafia Godfather. It's how we got Mr. Squirrel.

3. Kill- Good, eliminates one more mafia member, can preemptively kill the Godfather without us having to worry about fakeclaims, etc.

So in summary, if Sully targets someone who is townie, we have a 66% chance of doing something beneficial.

If Sully targets a mafia member, we have also at least a 66% chance of doing some beneficial.

I'm willing to believe Sully's role until his actions speak otherwise, and I do not believe he is a good candidate for the third lynch. It's possible his character could be viewed as a threat to town by accidentally killing a townie early on, hence the fakeclaim. But his actions so far (especially getting rid of Mr. Squirrel) make me believe he's probably not mafia (although this does border on WIFOM).
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:09 pm

You not want saf, I think you've got a point there. Maybe Sully will be better off alive than dead. But I still want to lynch slow just to make sure he's unlynchable. We still have one more lynch after it too.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [20/32] Day 3 - Tomorrow is Saturday...

Postby safariguy5 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:11 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:You not want saf, I think you've got a point there. Maybe Sully will be better off alive than dead. But I still want to lynch slow just to make sure he's unlynchable. We still have one more lynch after it too.

Oh absolutely. After we clear/hang slow, we should probably go back and take a look at anything suspicious anyone else has done before lynching again, as it will go to night phase after that.
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