CYOC: TDT [6/22] Game Over! FREEDOM!!!

[strike wolf]

1. Strike->KGB
7. Doomyoshi>Betiko
8. Spiesr> MudPuppy
10. Hotshot>Strike
13. Jonty->Doomyoshi
16. KGB->sheep
17. Edoc>Hotshot
18. Sheep->Jonty125
19. Betiko>Spiesr
20. Mudpuppy>Edocsil

Alright that should be accurate. Have to say, adding Jonty back in was more difficult than taking the other 4 out. Will have more to post later for now I have to log for a few hours.

[MudPuppy]

At the moment, I trust Strike and Betiko more than MudPuppy.... so MudPuppy, that's my horse!

Can't say I can blame you too much for that logic as I think Strike & Betiko are quite Townish too. That said, I'm only willing to give one person a free pass in today's game and that will be Strike since I think a Governor is pretty expendable. But for now I'll stick with my tag-back approach to the game... HotShot, that's my horse.

edoc, my new watch, has been active all game and has already posted on LD3.

[spiesr]

Well, I will claim responsibility for using the gift that revived Jonty, for whatever that is worth now.

[sheepofdumb]

Sorry for my inactivity. Started a new job and have been super busy lately.

So the wishmaster thing was interesting. Grats IB. Looks like town has to hunt down one more mafia and whatever 3rd party that are getting in the way of the win.

[jonty125]

On the first N1, strike wolf visited Rodion.

[edocsil]

On the first N1, strike wolf visited Rodion.

Well we can certainly use this to confirm a few things, but unless I am entirely mistaken we don't have a claim from strike, correct? I am uncertain if we want to look for more than a confirmation/denial.

[betiko]

my probem here is with the cult left. as we can see with rodion; there wasn't any need for much change in his meta.... it can be anybody more or less...
while strike is low on my scum list he is high on my cult list...

[HotShot53]

Mod took a while to send back my night action, but I just got it back, and I finally have some useful information

I am Sherlock Holmes, Town Cop. (After pretending to be him in the other game, I decided to actually be him this time lol)

Last night I investigated DoomYoshi, and he is the other Cult member. So I will vote DoomYoshi

My other nights' results were:

N1 - jak111 is town (that's why I switched from being suspicious of him to defending him... I didn't think it was worth revealing I was the cop on day 2 to save him though)

N2 - Spiesr is Town

N3 - TA1LGUNN3R is Town

LN1 - tried to research DoomYoshi, but was roleblocked

LN2 - DoomYoshi is Cult

Unfortunately, 2 of my investigations have subsequently died... so Spiesr is the only one I can clear as of now.

Since no doctors have been killed yet, hopefully one is around to keep me alive tonight...

Btw, MudPuppy, that's my horse! (And I wouldn't recommend giving it back this time, you don't want to be the one stealing the cop's horse... another reason I claimed now, so if anyone steals my horse it will look very scummish of them)

[MudPuppy]

Last night I investigated DoomYoshi, and he is the other Cult member. So I will vote DoomYoshi...

Btw, MudPuppy, that's my horse! (And I wouldn't recommend giving it back this time, you don't want to be the one stealing the cop's horse... another reason I claimed now, so if anyone steals my horse it will look very scummish of them)

I see little reason to doubt your claim and it's easy enough to test so vote DoomYoshi

However, I'm still only giving one free pass in the horse game... and no, I will not be taking the claimed cop's steed... so, that puts Strike back into the mix for me. Since The Governor is both expendable and I'm a bit curious to test his claim... betiko, that's my horse. I just start reading Game of Thrones in preparation for Storr's mafia game and I do love the little man... but he has no business on a real horse.

[edocsil]

1. Strike Wolf
8. DoomYoshi - inv as cult.
9. Spiesr
11. HotShot53 - Claimed Town Cop
14. jonty125 (Ronnie O’Sullivan, Town Watcher) Killed Day 2, Revived Lost Night 2
17. kgb007
19. Edocsil - Savior of the townspeople.
20. Sheepofdumb
21. Betiko - Claimed Gov
22. MudPuppy

We know (ok assume) there is the horse fucker out there as well as a roleblocker, there are 3 antitown by best guess, the gifter is dead (ish) and is there anything else I am failing to summarize?

Updated my quote.

The "cult" investigation is unusual rather than guilty, but not unreasonable. I am more interested in scum hunting than killing cultists without a leader, and I think he would be better suited for a nk, but that's my .02. Worth lynching if nothing more useful arises.

[HotShot53]

1. Strike Wolf
8. DoomYoshi - inv as cult.
9. Spiesr
11. HotShot53 - Claimed Town Cop
14. jonty125 (Ronnie O’Sullivan, Town Watcher) Killed Day 2, Revived Lost Night 2
17. kgb007
19. Edocsil - Savior of the townspeople.
20. Sheepofdumb
21. Betiko - Claimed Gov
22. MudPuppy

We know (ok assume) there is the horse fucker out there as well as a roleblocker, there are 3 antitown by best guess, the gifter is dead (ish) and is there anything else I am failing to summarize?

Updated my quote.

The "cult" investigation is unusual rather than guilty, but not unreasonable. I am more interested in scum hunting than killing cultists without a leader, and I think he would be better suited for a nk, but that's my .02. Worth lynching if nothing more useful arises.

You have a good point about a lone cultist not being a significant risk, now that we know who he is. I figured I better get it out though in case something happened to me, at least he's known now and everyone won't suspect everyone else of being the cultist.

Updating the list with investigation results also:

1. Strike Wolf
8. DoomYoshi - inv as cult.
9. Spiesr - inv as town
11. HotShot53 - Claimed Town Cop
14. jonty125 (Ronnie O’Sullivan, Town Watcher) Killed Day 2, Revived Lost Night 2
17. kgb007
19. Edocsil - inv as town by betiko
20. Sheepofdumb
21. Betiko - Claimed Gov
22. MudPuppy

Not many questionable people left... basically left with kgb, sheep and mudpuppy as the main suspects, betiko as town leaning but who knows for sure, and strike as everyone has town feeling but nothing claimed so far. Among the suspects, who is the most suspicious?

[betiko]

Ok, i tend to believe all what was said.

I would be in favour of asking sheep, kgb and mudpuppy to claim.
I have a rather town vibe on mudpuppy and a scum vibe on kgb, no idea about sheep.

[strike wolf]

I will confirm visiting Rodion N1.

KGB, Sheep, Mudpuppy and to a lesser extent betiko are the main options on the table right now other than lynching the cultist. I've been saying I've gotten town vibes from Betiko for a while and him being on the horse lynch suggests further that it is random and all inclusive. I am going to exclude Mudpuppy for reasons below on the lynch wagon for now. That leaves Sheep and KGB. Sheep has been kind of off to the side for the whole game so I don't particular trust him. KGB hasn't given me much of a read so not much to say. I will reread both cases. I am wondering if the mafia has a traditional godfather role or if that was the point of the canonizer. Technically can not rule out the innocent results as they could have been false negatives but I favor Ockham's Razor for cases like this.

Horse game

I believe Hotshot's claim so he's out. i just finished stating I believe Betiko so I am unlikely to target him. That leaves Mudpuppy in my eyes.

bla bla bla. Want to say more but tired.

[betiko]

Yeah so what are the theories on the procratinator and the canoniser?

My latest theory is that the first might be able to make the action of his target happen one day late, and the second might be able to make the scummates appear as inocent?

For the horse game i don t mind ending up with it, i have to ask pcm if the horse works as the lynch though, because technically i can stop a lynch don t know if i can save me from the horse..

[spiesr]

We could try lynching DoomYoshi and directly the horse if we think one of those guys is scummy. Right now of those in the game only Strikewolf and Mudpuppy haven't claimed. I find Strikewolf more likely to be town of the two, so I think we should take a look at/force a claim from Mudpuppy. Vote Mudpuppy.

My latest theory is that the first might be able to make the action of his target happen one day late, and the second might be able to make the scummates appear as inocent?

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=610&t=190758&hilit=cyoc&start=600#p4247669

[DoomYoshi]

Still playing catch up and have a day of soccer tourneys. Will post again tonight.

In the meantime, I'll report that Rodion has posted (and voted) D2.
Guess is that horse game is strictly a mod-generated side game (no players involved).

OK, the HF is starting to piss me off.

What makes you think there is one now?

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Willing to bet MP and kgb are the final 2 scum.

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D1 2 of my votes were for scum. 1 of my votes ended up being the final wagon (no lynch).

D2 I started the proper wagon.

It doesn't matter how well you play, cult ruins everything.

Rodion was in a different cult than me. I am probably not the last cultist. I would say we should focus more on the other cult since I am no longer recuitable. I am Joan of Arc, the other rolegifter.

[DoomYoshi]

And don't worry, I tried to give betiko a trick cop investigation that actually recruits people into cult. I am not allowed to rolegift recruits of any kind.

[MudPuppy]

I would be in favour of asking sheep, kgb and mudpuppy to claim.

I'm Barney Fife (Town Deputy)

OK, the HF is starting to piss me off.

What makes you think there is one now?

I don't... still think it's pcm... I'm just whining for being picked two days in a row.

[HotShot53]

And don't worry, I tried to give betiko a trick cop investigation that actually recruits people into cult. I am not allowed to rolegift recruits of any kind.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you said here at all... are you saying you recruited betiko? Or that whomever betiko investigated, i.e. edoc, became recruited?

Either way, if you aren't part of rodion's cult, are you saying there were 2 cults out there, one of which is still actively recruiting people? That doesn't make sense, or else they would have won already with 5+ members.

[HotShot53]

I would be in favour of asking sheep, kgb and mudpuppy to claim.

I'm Barney Fife (Town Deputy)

So... what exactly does a Town Deputy do? And what have you done with whatever ability it is you have?

[MudPuppy]

So... what exactly does a Town Deputy do? And what have you done with whatever ability it is you have?

I'm basically a backup cop. When you die, I get promoted and can start investigating.... 'til then, I'm effectively a VT.

[edocsil]

Bullshit on deputy.

Vote Puppy

As per CYOC, deputy is a fake.

[sheepofdumb]

Bullshit on deputy.

Vote Puppy

As per CYOC, deputy is a fake.

Looks like characters are one time things and not roles. Was there another Barney in one of the other games?

[betiko]

And don't worry, I tried to give betiko a trick cop investigation that actually recruits people into cult. I am not allowed to rolegift recruits of any kind.

Doom, you just sound like when you create one of your crazy off topic threads. If it s true why would you reveal such thing? It would be very easy to find the other cultists... As far as I know your last cult friend would be edoc as all other investigated people are dead...

Could be something you re just saying because you are cornered, you are the last cultist and you are getting night killed..

Sheep, can you please claim too?

Where is kgb, he hasn t appeared in ages and he has my biggest scum vibes...

Mudpuppy s claim: i could believe it. Pcm wasn t going to include 2 town cops.

[MudPuppy]

Bullshit on deputy.

Vote Puppy

As per CYOC, deputy is a fake.

Not sure how respond since I don't understand what you're saying. Can you clarify why you think CYOC rules don't allow deputies, if that is what you are suggesting?

I still think it's worth lynching Doom to confirm HotShot's claim and just in case DY has a way to hurt Town. I don't think he can hurt Town and I do think HotShot is a cop... but I'd feel better about it once Doom flips cult.

As far as the scum hunt, I'd start with sheep and then let HotShot do his thing 'til he finds him.