TheGeneral's Pro Mafia [Town Wins!] Night actions released

[spiesr]

i didn't look up that role on EM because i didn't think a bomb would be any different from what was used here. i only looked up the roles i didn't know like actress and stalker and such.

Fortunately the first post has a list of how all the roles used in the game work. The description for Bomb contains the line: "Will not explode if lynched."

[zimmah]

i didn't look up that role on EM because i didn't think a bomb would be any different from what was used here. i only looked up the roles i didn't know like actress and stalker and such.

Fortunately the first post has a list of how all the roles used in the game work. The description for Bomb contains the line: "Will not explode if lynched."

oh right, totaly forgot.

well, either way, unless anyone counterclaims me, you can safely assume i'm not mafia. just a little 'strange use of words' is not a big deal.

[ghostly447]

In agreement with Zimmah. Unless there is a setup without a doctor (I dont recall one) then I am good with his claim until someone counters it.

[dazza2008]

In agreement with Zimmah. Unless there is a setup without a doctor (I dont recall one) then I am good with his claim until someone counters it.

Why not look and see? There are only 2 setups with a bomb in and both have a doc. Thats why we figured Zimmah was safe to claim.

[ghostly447]

In agreement with Zimmah. Unless there is a setup without a doctor (I dont recall one) then I am good with his claim until someone counters it.

Why not look and see? There are only 2 setups with a bomb in and both have a doc. Thats why we figured Zimmah was safe to claim.

Because I am busy arguing with an idiot on skype about plans I made and plans he made for an entirely different game called tribalwars. So, like I said, I didnt recall one, but if I had stood corrected, then I would look into it.

[spiesr]

In agreement with Zimmah. Unless there is a setup without a doctor (I dont recall one) then I am good with his claim until someone counters it.

Setup #1 has no doctor in it. However, we can't be in a setup without a doctor as Haggis turned up as a doctor when he died last night. In all of the possible setups the only apparent way for two people to die in one night is for the mafia to kill the bomb and the bomb to then kill the first mafia member. This leads us to the conclusion that Haggis was most likely the Actress role. The actress can appear as the role of another player when it dies. Since the actress can only do this by picking a person and appearing as that person's role then we can conclude that this setup must actually have a doctor in it. So, yes there is a possible setup that contains no doctor, but that cannot be the setup that we are using.

[soundman]

Just so it's clear, it has to be one of these two setups and both the bomb and actress are now gone:

Setup 2: 4 villagers, 1 vanilla mafia, 1 doc, 1 watcher, 1 bomb, 1 actress, 1 stalker
Setup 3: 4 villagers, 1 doc, 1 cop, 1 bomb, 1 actress, 1 lawyer, 1 stalker

[edocsil]

Also worthy to note, all claims from mafia will be VT in this game, and they know all town power roles. Claims will mean nothing so if you vote for a person, be prepared to hang them and do not believe any claim besides cop or watcher.

[zimmah]

since mob was testing the leaking system he probably is not a VT. that makes it very likely he's scum.

therefore vote mob.

[dazza2008]

since mob was testing the leaking system he probably is not a VT. that makes it very likely he's scum.

therefore vote mob.

So him wanting to see what it looked like means he can't be VT?

You could be right but there is no logic at all in what you are saying is there?

[zimmah]

since mob was testing the leaking system he probably is not a VT. that makes it very likely he's scum.

therefore vote mob.

So him wanting to see what it looked like means he can't be VT?

You could be right but there is no logic at all in what you are saying is there?

have any better leads?

[ghostly447]

Quick post. I think MoB could get an FOS from me at this point, but thats about it. There are no better leads right now, so I am kind of stuck on what to do :S.

[dazza2008]

since mob was testing the leaking system he probably is not a VT. that makes it very likely he's scum.

therefore vote mob.

So him wanting to see what it looked like means he can't be VT?

You could be right but there is no logic at all in what you are saying is there?

have any better leads?

Not at all but someone might since there must be a cop or watcher here. I will wait a while and see if anything comes up before going for a random lynch.

[edocsil]

since mob was testing the leaking system he probably is not a VT. that makes it very likely he's scum.

therefore vote mob.

So him wanting to see what it looked like means he can't be VT?

You could be right but there is no logic at all in what you are saying is there?

have any better leads?

Not at all but someone might since there must be a cop or watcher here. I will wait a while and see if anything comes up before going for a random lynch.

If a cop had a guilty there would already be a lynch.

I too will Vote Mob, it his highly unlikely that there is any meaningful correspondence that could be exchanged by a VT, so there is no point in testing the system.

[zimmah]

i'm pretty sure the cop/watcher won't reveal in the treat but i do know who the cop/watcher is and what role he has. i think it's better to reveal it only after he has some information useful for town.

[dazza2008]

since mob was testing the leaking system he probably is not a VT. that makes it very likely he's scum.

therefore vote mob.

So him wanting to see what it looked like means he can't be VT?

You could be right but there is no logic at all in what you are saying is there?

have any better leads?

Not at all but someone might since there must be a cop or watcher here. I will wait a while and see if anything comes up before going for a random lynch.

If a cop had a guilty there would already be a lynch.

I too will Vote Mob, it his highly unlikely that there is any meaningful correspondence that could be exchanged by a VT, so there is no point in testing the system.

OK. Its not even been "day" for a day though but I will Vote MoB too.

[MoB Deadly]

Okay guys, I did just for the novelty of being able to do it. This is the first game I have ever played that I've been able to send PMs during they day, I did it out of pure fun. I even said I was going to do it during sign-ups.

I am going to get lynched for sending a love letter while drunk?

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[TheGeneral2112]

VOTE COUNT

8 alive, 5 to lynch

Zimmah
Edocsil
Agentcom
Spiesr
MoB Deadly (L-2) - zimmah, edoc, dazza2008
Ghostly447
Dazza2008
Soundman

[zimmah]

Okay guys, I did just for the novelty of being able to do it. This is the first game I have ever played that I've been able to send PMs during they day, I did it out of pure fun. I even said I was going to do it during sign-ups.

I am going to get lynched for sending a love letter while drunk?

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well, unless you can provide us with something better, it seems like it. besides, leaking loveletters just scream scum.

[edocsil]

Okay guys, I did just for the novelty of being able to do it. This is the first game I have ever played that I've been able to send PMs during they day, I did it out of pure fun. I even said I was going to do it during sign-ups.

I am going to get lynched for sending a love letter while drunk?

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Due to the nature of the game the first few days will likely be nearly Random Lynches. This kind of closed deck game doesn't play like a normal flavor game. (btw drunken texting of lovers ends up i the worst possible way )

[MoB Deadly]

Since we are at Day 1, there is a slim chance the cop got any info last night. So we aren't going to have any leads at this time. So we could do a Random/joke votes or Questions to try to produce leads.

Ive been brainstorming a little but not thinking of anything. Since Zimmah claimed doctor, I think we are safe following his lead. I was trying to think what we could possibly ALL PM Zimmah, that he can cross check to find flaws or inconsistencies. We certainly don't want a mass claim over PM because of leaks etc. But what if towards the end of the day maybe Zimmah asked 2-3 suspects their role or something.

Im just spitballing, I don't have any good ideas yet.

Im looking for ways to use these PMs to our advantage, town doesn't get them often. I personally don't think day PMs are scummy. No matter what, scum isn't going to send anything critical over PM, they would play it safe and wait till night. What info could scum even WANT to send over PM right now? Unless they are in a speed lynch situation, or they magically figured out the cop if he laid a breadcrumb, there's no reason to send a PM right now.

[edocsil]

Since we are at Day 1, there is a slim chance the cop got any info last night. So we aren't going to have any leads at this time. So we could do a Random/joke votes or Questions to try to produce leads.

Ive been brainstorming a little but not thinking of anything. Since Zimmah claimed doctor, I think we are safe following his lead. I was trying to think what we could possibly ALL PM Zimmah, that he can cross check to find flaws or inconsistencies. We certainly don't want a mass claim over PM because of leaks etc. But what if towards the end of the day maybe Zimmah asked 2-3 suspects their role or something.

Im just spitballing, I don't have any good ideas yet.

Im looking for ways to use these PMs to our advantage, town doesn't get them often. I personally don't think day PMs are scummy. No matter what, scum isn't going to send anything critical over PM, they would play it safe and wait till night. What info could scum even WANT to send over PM right now? Unless they are in a speed lynch situation, or they magically figured out the cop if he laid a breadcrumb, there's no reason to send a PM right now.

A good player can identify the cop d1, especially if both players know each other well. Also a mass PM will do nothing. One will tell the Doc they are the cop and every single other person will tell them that they are VT.

I think your push for the PM plan just convinced me you must die, that could easily expose the cop, especially if the doc and the cop start to talk.

[MoB Deadly]

*I am not sure what info Zimmah could gain, nor do I know if this is worth the effort, but heres a possiblity*

Okay well I found a way Zimmah could ask whatever he wants without the person he is interrogating revealing any info to the rest of the game. Say he wants to ask me a question. I dunno umm....
"Do you think Edoc is scum?" He could send it... Also send another PM intentionally leaking it "*intentionally leak this*"

That way, once the intentional leaks, zImmah will know if his original PM leaked or not. If so, whatever, ask another question. If not Then I answer simply yes or no. If my yes/no gets leaked, no big deal no one knows the question

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[spiesr]

Ive been brainstorming a little but not thinking of anything. Since Zimmah claimed doctor, I think we are safe following his lead. I was trying to think what we could possibly ALL PM Zimmah, that he can cross check to find flaws or inconsistencies. We certainly don't want a mass claim over PM because of leaks etc. But what if towards the end of the day maybe Zimmah asked 2-3 suspects their role or something.

To me I this almost seems like you are sort of fishing for the cop. Kind of a bizarre move to make when you have the heat on you...

[edocsil]

*I am not sure what info Zimmah could gain, nor do I know if this is worth the effort, but heres a possiblity*

Okay well I found a way Zimmah could ask whatever he wants without the person he is interrogating revealing any info to the rest of the game. Say he wants to ask me a question. I dunno umm....
"Do you think Edoc is scum?" He could send it... Also send another PM intentionally leaking it "*intentionally leak this*"

That way, once the intentional leaks, zImmah will know if his original PM leaked or not. If so, whatever, ask another question. If not Then I answer simply yes or no. If my yes/no gets leaked, no big deal no one knows the question

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Yeah, and then suddenly there have been 4 or 5 PMs between the cop/watcher and the doc, the only 2 players how know anything about the game.