Well, I think that we can rule out the involvement of a town bus driver for the death of jonty last night. Said bus driver would have come out by now and taken responsibility for his actions and helped us. None has, so it is my belief that he does not exist, or did not cause jonty's death.
What I believe happened is that the Death Eaters saw saf's claim and saw a golden opportunity to frame him. Freezie did say that this game would be hard, so it is likely for the DE's to have a roleblocker or a bus driver, possibly both, and used them in whatever manner they chose to nullify saf's protection and kill jonty, leaving them with a perfect target to go after the next day. Which I am sure they would have capitalized on.
Enter Neb. On his first post on D2, he says this:
Nebuchadnezer PG 33 wrote:Are you effin' kidding me? We have a body guard, presumably a doc, most likely a bus drive...and you all pick a different target? Holy crap!
Who the hell is our claimed body guard again? My vote goes there.
...already broadcasting his intentions to go after safari, despite not naming him. On his next post 2 pages later, he goes through with it:
Nebuchadnezer PG 35 wrote:While Harry was the ultimate quick win player, beyond that, he didn't have much in the way of power. So, we need to get past his loss and move on with the rest of the town here.
The best option to me is to go for our "body guard." He really does no good without knowing the power roles to protect anyway. He'd just be flailing around in the dark protecting on hunches. If he did succeed in protecting anyone, it wouldn't matter anyway, as that gives us no clue as to who he protected, and therefore doesn't clear anyone. I will agree that it is a good mafia claim, as even if a tracker (watcher) targeted him, he could still target Harry and we'd be no wiser to if he was mafia targeting him, mafia busdriver targeting him, or an actual body guard protecting him. Rather fool proof.
Given that he didn't protect Harry last night, I'm willing to test his claim.
VOTE SAFARIGUY
His next post takes the cake, though:
Nebuchadnezer PG 36 wrote:How is it a lazy lynch, if I don't actually believe your claim? In fact, it would be one hell of a tough lynch to get people to vote for you. You seem to have everyone here believing your claim. I'm just not so sure it adds up, and it's a little too convenient for you to keep "missing" protections night after night. Because, here's what will happen: the next townie to claim will hope to be protected at night. Once again, you will fail to protect. We come back the next day and the same thing happens. Why do I say you will fail to protect? Because you failed last night. Whatever you did or did not do, the mafia already have a template as to how to eliminate town. So, again, please tell me how you will magically protect anyone when you couldn't do so last night?
Now, I must consider alternatives...one being, Harry sacrificed himself, per the story. Did he actually find Voldemort last night, and thus "seeled" his own fate of having to "die" first? Possible, but very unlikely, and would be way outside normal mafia roles. There may also be other possibilities, but the most likely, to me right now, is that you made a fake claim, and had a hand in killing jonty.
Neb
Here Neb assumes that saf will fail all of his protections from here on out. Not only is this unfounded and premature, he's trying to make it look like there is enough evidence to believe that saf is lying when conclusive or even persuasive evidence for that does not exist.Here Neb says that the mafia have a template for circumventing town protective powers. Which they probably do. But why would he state that and then come to the conclusion that saf is lying?He is right, here: there are a lot of other possibilities. But he does not consider them. Furthermore, he says that the most likely thing that would have happened is that saf lied and killed jonty, when the least likely thing that the DE's would have done if saf was a member would be to kill jonty and cast doubt on saf's claim. But if they wanted to kill two birds with one stone...Granted, Neb has unvoted, but now he has taken a back seat, cast suspicion on MC and hippo but is waiting for someone else to make a proper case against one of them. I find his arguments against safari to be poor and scummy, and I find his diving after it seemed like no one would support him to be scummy.
Vote Neb"Disease, suffering, hardship...that is what war is all about."-Captain Kirk, from "A Taste of Armageddon"
