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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:10 am

Leehar wrote:jgordon has a point tho.
It's possible it only takes 1 goon to make a kill, so hypothetically speaking, cms and edoc could have both been Ice goons, but because edoc went dark/inactive, cms just decided on and made the kill himself?
Tho obviously Scene flavour does lend itself to 2 ice's being involved. But either way, edoc was supporting a fire goon in the beginning anyway, so I think there's too much chance in there!


you guys ever think there is a chance that the fire goons dont know who the ice goons are and vise versa??
that would probably be the whole point in the fact that if they attack the same people it negates the kill (making it so they kinda have to guess which one they have to kill according to the one the other team kills which they dont know)
so the fact that he was supporting a fire goon would mean nothing unless he is the other fire goon...unless im confused on waht your saying
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:54 am

Yeah I would say that they don't know who each other are otherwise they'd just kill each other in the night.

Honestly, thinking about it, town has a high chance of winning this one. There are 9 players and in order for any mafia to win thee has to be 1 mafia to 1 town. Going into night, there will be 8 players and then at day there'll be 6 players. There's a 22% chance we lynch mafia today, and then a a 25% chance mafia get killed tonight if we lynch town today. Going into D3 we'll have a worst case scenario of 1:1:4. Assuming 3 townies die due to lynch and NK then we'll have 1:1:1. That'll be D4. At that point the single townie has no chance of winning, but it's more likely that by D4 one or other of the mafia will have been lynched or NKd. So if we don't lynch D2 or D3 then we might have a ratio of 1:1:3 going into D4, in which case we might lynch 1 mafia and then one townie gets NK'd and then we have 1:2 in D5 and then lynch the mafia. But I doubt this scenario will arise as I think it's much more likely the mafia will kill each other before then. Unless anyone has some actual leads today, I say let's go into N2 and vote no lynch. VOTE NO LYNCH

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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - [Need 1 Replacement!]

Postby MoB Deadly on Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:05 am

Day 2 - Vote Count 3

SG8 -
(1) ghostly447 - mc05025
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(1) mc05025 - Some7hingCLEVER
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(3, L-2) Some7hingCLEVER - ghostly447, New Guy1, SPARTICUS1974
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(1) No Lynch - SG8

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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby new guy1 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:09 am

My vote stays on clever.
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby ghostly447 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:48 am

shieldgenerator7 wrote:Yeah I would say that they don't know who each other are otherwise they'd just kill each other in the night.

Honestly, thinking about it, town has a high chance of winning this one. There are 9 players and in order for any mafia to win thee has to be 1 mafia to 1 town. Going into night, there will be 8 players and then at day there'll be 6 players. There's a 22% chance we lynch mafia today, and then a a 25% chance mafia get killed tonight if we lynch town today. Going into D3 we'll have a worst case scenario of 1:1:4. Assuming 3 townies die due to lynch and NK then we'll have 1:1:1. That'll be D4. At that point the single townie has no chance of winning, but it's more likely that by D4 one or other of the mafia will have been lynched or NKd. So if we don't lynch D2 or D3 then we might have a ratio of 1:1:3 going into D4, in which case we might lynch 1 mafia and then one townie gets NK'd and then we have 1:2 in D5 and then lynch the mafia. But I doubt this scenario will arise as I think it's much more likely the mafia will kill each other before then. Unless anyone has some actual leads today, I say let's go into N2 and vote no lynch. VOTE NO LYNCH

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I say we lynch clever because he dropped scumtell free scuntell just about all of his posts by changing his story etc. Its no longer a noobie mistake. It has got to be a scumslip. For that, my vote stands
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby mc05025 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:49 am

shieldgenerator7 wrote:Yeah I would say that they don't know who each other are otherwise they'd just kill each other in the night.

Honestly, thinking about it, town has a high chance of winning this one. There are 9 players and in order for any mafia to win thee has to be 1 mafia to 1 town. Going into night, there will be 8 players and then at day there'll be 6 players. There's a 22% chance we lynch mafia today, and then a a 25% chance mafia get killed tonight if we lynch town today. Going into D3 we'll have a worst case scenario of 1:1:4. Assuming 3 townies die due to lynch and NK then we'll have 1:1:1. That'll be D4. At that point the single townie has no chance of winning, but it's more likely that by D4 one or other of the mafia will have been lynched or NKd. So if we don't lynch D2 or D3 then we might have a ratio of 1:1:3 going into D4, in which case we might lynch 1 mafia and then one townie gets NK'd and then we have 1:2 in D5 and then lynch the mafia. But I doubt this scenario will arise as I think it's much more likely the mafia will kill each other before then. Unless anyone has some actual leads today, I say let's go into N2 and vote no lynch. VOTE NO LYNCH

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I can not see how a not Lynch will help us next day. The mafia do not want to kill each other now. So according to you (I doubt) they know each other and they will not kill each other in order more of us die at night. Now according to me they do not know each other (they do not have more informations from us except MoB gave them (is that possible???)) and so at least one of them will kill the doc. If both kill the doc, then the doc do not die and we will be at the exact same point as now. If only one of them kill the doc then the other will kill most likely one of us and we will be down to 2 townies....
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:28 pm

I'm ok with lynching clever today but I'm not going to vote for him. Assuming we would hit town each day with a lynch, and mafia only killed town at night, by D4 we would have 1:1:1, and we'd have no way of winning, but if we NL'd to D4, the ratio would be 1:1:3, then we would have plenty info then to find the scum. Then in D5 it'd be 1:2, and then we lynch the last mafia. But that's worst case scenario. It's more likely IMO that one of the mafia would kill each other. And no I didn't mean they knew who each other were. MoB would not have given them that info. I didn't mean to imply it either. I meant that the mafia would figure out who was other mafia based on what was posted or they would get lucky and hit mafia.

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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby SPARTACUS1974 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:29 pm

hi sorry for not posting much been trying to save my ass in other game .
just been reading through and i agree that the fire would not know the ice because if they did there is no way they could target the same person and cancel out each others kill.
yes there is a chance we lynch a town each day but what are the chances of us doing this and that each mafia kills town each night and not each other, the odds must be higher than winning the lottery ?
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:33 pm

^^ thats what I was trying to say lol
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby SPARTACUS1974 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:38 pm

oh lol
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:40 pm

Ya why would the other mafias know who each other are when by flavor it seems they are against each other!
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby SPARTACUS1974 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:45 pm

in my first mafia italian style , in that i was scum fbi agent and there were also russian agents that we knew existed but we did not know they were and im sure mob was in that game ,
and if fire and ice new who the other was there would be no need to have 2 seperate mafia
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:48 pm

EXACTLY!!
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:42 pm

Alrighty then... deadline in about 12 hours I think? have just a little bit more time to discuss but i will be dormant for the next 8 hours or so, so tata for now, will post later

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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby new guy1 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:51 pm

I believe we have made up our minds. CLEVER should be lynched as he is dropping numerous tells.
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby jgordon1111 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:13 am

do not feel well will try and post later
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby MoB Deadly on Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:29 am

jgordon1111 wrote:do not feel well will try and post later


You claimed doctor, give yourself some medicine kid!!! :D :D
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby SPARTACUS1974 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:12 am

MoB Deadly wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:do not feel well will try and post later


You claimed doctor, give yourself some medicine kid!!! :D :D

lmao good call :lol:
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:56 am

mc05025 wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:Yeah I would say that they don't know who each other are otherwise they'd just kill each other in the night.

Honestly, thinking about it, town has a high chance of winning this one. There are 9 players and in order for any mafia to win thee has to be 1 mafia to 1 town. Going into night, there will be 8 players and then at day there'll be 6 players. There's a 22% chance we lynch mafia today, and then a a 25% chance mafia get killed tonight if we lynch town today. Going into D3 we'll have a worst case scenario of 1:1:4. Assuming 3 townies die due to lynch and NK then we'll have 1:1:1. That'll be D4. At that point the single townie has no chance of winning, but it's more likely that by D4 one or other of the mafia will have been lynched or NKd. So if we don't lynch D2 or D3 then we might have a ratio of 1:1:3 going into D4, in which case we might lynch 1 mafia and then one townie gets NK'd and then we have 1:2 in D5 and then lynch the mafia. But I doubt this scenario will arise as I think it's much more likely the mafia will kill each other before then. Unless anyone has some actual leads today, I say let's go into N2 and vote no lynch. VOTE NO LYNCH

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I can not see how a not Lynch will help us next day. The mafia do not want to kill each other now. So according to you (I doubt) they know each other and they will not kill each other in order more of us die at night. Now according to me they do not know each other (they do not have more informations from us except MoB gave them (is that possible???)) and so at least one of them will kill the doc. If both kill the doc, then the doc do not die and we will be at the exact same point as now. If only one of them kill the doc then the other will kill most likely one of us and we will be down to 2 townies....


dont wanna kill each other??
are you kidding me
why wouldnt they lol


anyway i really dont see how i can defend myself new guy and ghostly obviously have there mind set on me so im gonna get lynched either way lol...good game guys
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby Leehar on Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:13 am

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
you guys ever think there is a chance that the fire goons dont know who the ice goons are and vise versa??
that would probably be the whole point in the fact that if they attack the same people it negates the kill (making it so they kinda have to guess which one they have to kill according to the one the other team kills which they dont know)
so the fact that he was supporting a fire goon would mean nothing unless he is the other fire goon...unless im confused on waht your saying

Yeah, but the Fire goon has to have been active during the night to kill someone since he was the only one of his crew, which obv clears edoc and by extension sg7 of being fire, tho they perhaps still can be ice
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:21 am

Leehar wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
you guys ever think there is a chance that the fire goons dont know who the ice goons are and vise versa??
that would probably be the whole point in the fact that if they attack the same people it negates the kill (making it so they kinda have to guess which one they have to kill according to the one the other team kills which they dont know)
so the fact that he was supporting a fire goon would mean nothing unless he is the other fire goon...unless im confused on waht your saying

Yeah, but the Fire goon has to have been active during the night to kill someone since he was the only one of his crew, which obv clears edoc and by extension sg7 of being fire, tho they perhaps still can be ice


how does it clear them exactly
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:35 am

Never mind I figured it out
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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby jgordon1111 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:30 pm

Vote leehar always to cautious to take a side leehar,this time its going to get you lynched, you seem to use this style when your mafia so I think for once I will test my theory on your play style
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Re: Fire and Ice!! (12/12) Day 1 - [Need 1 Replacement!]

Postby MoB Deadly on Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:50 pm

Day 2 - Vote Count 4

SG8 -
(1) ghostly447 - mc05025
jgordon1111 -
(1) Leehar - jgordon1111
(1) mc05025 - Some7hingCLEVER
New Guy1 -
(3, L-2) Some7hingCLEVER - ghostly447, New Guy1, SPARTICUS1974
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(1) No Lynch - SG8

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Re: Fire and Ice! (9/12) Day 2 [Need 1 Repl!][Ice Goon Burnt

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:23 pm

well only 3 hours left so it looks like Clever's getting lynched unless we do something soon
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