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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby chapcrap on Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:48 pm

edocsil wrote:Ya know, I am going to put my neck out here and say the case against tails really blows. He has said everything that can be said to counter an argument like that and you more or less ignore it. I am looking at you jonty.

My vote has been on victor from nearly the joke vote stage, and there it will remain. He basically admitted to being one of the heroes and then wrote it off as jest. I think he is out best hope for a "scum" lynch today.

Has Tails responded to this yet?
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TheGeneral2112 wrote:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:Current Battlefield Rundown:

Rodion (1) - Haggis_Mcmutton
jonty (2) - victor, doomyoshi
drunkmonkey (1) - sensfan,
Victor (5) - PCM, edocsil, spiesr, safariguy, drunkmonkey
spiesr (2) - jonty, trinicardinal
thegeneral (1) - iliad,
safariguy (1) - thegeneral
tailgunner (6) - /, chapcrap, ghostly, soundman, zimmah, thehippo

It takes 13 to kill.
Deadline Wednesday

Sorry guys, no deadline extension. This day is starting to drag on and I don't want this to turn into a 50 page day 1 like briarsburg. :roll:



Thanks for the VC!

Nice to see that iliad is still voting the town doc... :roll:

Also looks like everyone completely ignored my argument about saf making up his role race. Since only one person was able to say they have a race in their role pm, I think my argument holds a little bit of water here...

Hey, I was wondering if you remembered this post:
chapcrap wrote:I just caught up from the past 2 days. Got my wisdom teeth out and I'm a little behind.

Anyway, seems like Doom is maybe taking it a little too far. However, I do agree that follow the cop will work in nothing other than a C9 game. This is definitely not that setup. I think that 2112 has realized that by now. And I'm pretty sure he wants to win. That was a silly argument to even make.

My PM does talk of a specific race.

I don't think I have much else to comment on. Seems like a lot of the same back and forth with a little Sully craziness thrown in.

I will say that I agree with / about Tail, so I guess I'll go ahead and Attack Tail.

Or the one that I can't find right now where someone not only said they had a race role, they specifically said that it was an orc as well.

Yeah, I didn't think so.
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:15 pm

Chap what are you getting at? I don't undertand your point.
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby chapcrap on Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:50 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Chap what are you getting at? I don't undertand your point.

What I'm getting at is that edoc said Tails said everything he could. Except he hasn't. He didn't respond to my direct post at him.

Tails tried to say that he didn't post for so long because he had nothing to say even though he was paying attention. VS and I directed posts at Tails immediately after his last post before his absence and then he disappeared for 5 or 6 days and never responded. He still hasn't.

So, I'm getting at the fact that Tails needs to respond and edoc needs to stop skimming.
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:10 pm

Ok, thank you for the clarification.
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby thehippo8 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:15 am

For the next two weeks I'm going to be away and pretty much uncontactable. I hope that isn't a problem, if it is then I am sorry. I've said what I've needed to say which should see us through until the night, I doubt tomorrow will run quickly so I hope to squeek back in with assistance in day two. Have a good Christmas and New Year everyone.
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby zimmah on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:36 am

well, if i had to pick one sole person to lynch today i'd probably pick safari.

not sure why, but he's got a scummy vibe to me this game. something seems not to add up, i just can't see what exacly.

maybe i'm just way off, maybe i'm not. but my feelings tell me safari is no good.
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby TheGeneral2112 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:42 am

zimmah wrote:well, if i had to pick one sole person to lynch today i'd probably pick safari.

not sure why, but he's got a scummy vibe to me this game. something seems not to add up, i just can't see what exacly.

maybe i'm just way off, maybe i'm not. but my feelings tell me safari is no good.



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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:32 am

zimmah wrote:even tho jonties post is quite weird, i'd say tails is overreacting. would the loss of 1 town really hurt this much in a game this big? if he was town, would he really be so overly defensive and aggresive and emotional about people pressuring him?

i mean i'd be quite sad if i got killed/lynched early in this game because i like this game a lot and it'd be a pity if i can't play it till the end or at least till midgame or so, but even then, i wouldn't be all aggresive about it, i'll just join another game and keep track of what's going on her (and the occasional urge to want to be involved in the conversation but not being able to do so because you're dead).


My problem is not that I could possibly by lynched; it happens. I fully recognize my small part in this game, and I would not be upset if I were being lynched purely for scummy behavior or something valid. My issue is the laziness with which I will be strung up. I don't wish to lose, or contribute to the loss of my team, based on the incompetence or laziness of others. I was accused; my job thereafter is to convince people not to lynch me.

but acting scummy when under pressure does not help avoiding the lynch of townies. :roll:


Scummy how? I'm very competitive, and have been more active lately, so I will strive to win, even if that means being reactionary.

chapcrap wrote:Tails, saying that didn't have a single thing to add after you called 2112 a noob is a bad argument. Especially VS asked you who would go after in the next post and then I called you out on the fact that 2112 wasn't a noob in the post after that. You just completely disappeared. You didn't have anything to say in response to those?

Tails initial post: https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 8#p3494798
VS's post: https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 8#p3494803
my post: https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 8#p3494807

FASTPOSTED


If I would suggest another suspect? Perhaps yes, although I doubt it would've been heard in the shit storm that followed 2112. Due to rl I fell behind in active case making and didn't have the energy to go through all the posts. You must understand that, at least for me, active scum hunting is more time-consuming than the crap I may post in other forums. Would you like me to give you a suspect now? I've been stuck in defense mode, but I could probably drum up a few ideas if you'd kindly remove your vote from me. If you're still on the skimming thing, please refer to my last post. 2112 is new to cc mafia. I'm not skimming, I almost never do. Get over it.

Also, generally you say "fastposted..." when you have something to add to your post that may be in response to something that was posted between your writing and submission... I know it was meme a while back, but just acknowledging that somebody posted before you, especially regarding something that wasn't related, doesn't really add to the game. Just a pet peeve, I guess.

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zimmah wrote:even tho jonties post is quite weird, i'd say tails is overreacting. would the loss of 1 town really hurt this much in a game this big? if he was town, would he really be so overly defensive and aggresive and emotional about people pressuring him?

i mean i'd be quite sad if i got killed/lynched early in this game because i like this game a lot and it'd be a pity if i can't play it till the end or at least till midgame or so, but even then, i wouldn't be all aggresive about it, i'll just join another game and keep track of what's going on her (and the occasional urge to want to be involved in the conversation but not being able to do so because you're dead).
So what, do you want townies to just rollover when pressure builds up on them?


I could sex you all night long right now...

thehippo wrote:I have to agree with you there Saf, the purpose of the game is for town to outlive scum. If there is one VT left then it's still a town win!


The problem with that is that is an unlikely scenario... the mafia faction generally wins upon the condition that nobody can force a lynch upon them, i.e. they become at least half the population. Now maybe if the town survivors can otherwise kill mafia, then it's possible, but experienced scum will probably have picked off vigs by end-game.

trinicardinal wrote:I'm still not happy with what we have gotten from spiesr but at this time that is not going anywhere. Time is running out and we need to get some more information. Tails and Victor both have also had some questionable posts but given that Tails has a slight lead in the race I agree with adding some more pressure on him first and we can deal with Sully another time. so Attack tailgunner.

Also Today is my last day at work for a while. I'm on vacation until the 9th of January. I'll try to log in and provide input as often as I can though.


Exhibit A, everybody. You've not once put forth or supported any scum tells that relate to my actions. In your own words "Tails has a slight lead in the race and I agree with adding some more pressure on him first blah blah blah..." This is clear-cut, impudent hopping-on-the-BW. There is no regard for statements or an argument presented, but blind "he has the most votes, I'll vote him." You've not even said that my defense was shit ffs.

jonty125 wrote:I admit Tails your case is hard to defend against but I felt you could have provided a bit better than "THAT CAN'T BE PROVEN OR DISPROVED"


That was only one part to one accusation leveled against me. Try reading the full post, and then the rest of them. That argument equals approximately 1/3 of my defense.

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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby drake_259 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:46 am

well considering the dl is today, it looks like their will be a nl.

with tonights actions, it will be much better with our results etc. no point in placing any vote etc yet.

what time does the day end? 23:59 est?
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby thehippo8 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:36 am

@Tail ... Good post and I am convincedunvote.

I also am leaning towards saf, I think the VS attack is always a solid thing to do (certainly at the beginning part of day one!!) but without substance now. I'm not satisfied with saf dragging me into being a "main case" or dropping it when he was caught out. So ... vote saf.

And that really will be my last vote for a while!!

Happy holidays everyone.
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby spiesr on Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:09 am

thehippo8 wrote:I have to agree with you there Saf, the purpose of the game is for town to outlive scum. If there is one VT left then it's still a town win!
As Tails pointed out, this isn't completely accurate. In a normal game once the scum have a majority then they win right then. (Certain roles like SK or Cult could prevent this as long as they are alive.) So, if the town was down to a single player the game would already be over there would be at least one scum which would be enough for a scum to win, unless there are third party players still around. Now, in theory it could be possible for a game to end with only a single vanilla townie left alive, if something happens like the last scum kills a bomb and dies for it, but that isn't really the situation you described. More importantly in this game we have the VIP which complicates such things significantly.
drake_259 wrote:what time does the day end? 23:59 est?
It hasn't been specified, so I would assume that it is whenever Squirrel gets around to ending it.
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:21 pm

zimmah wrote:well, if i had to pick one sole person to lynch today i'd probably pick safari.

not sure why, but he's got a scummy vibe to me this game. something seems not to add up, i just can't see what exacly.

maybe i'm just way off, maybe i'm not. but my feelings tell me safari is no good.

Fine...I might as well claim because you guys have apparently completely missed the posts where I softclaimed earlier.

I'm an Orc Mercenary, and I am town masons with ghostly. I've brought it up multiple times, but apparently nobody picked up on that.
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:28 pm

thehippo8 wrote:@Tail ... Good post and I am convincedunvote.

I also am leaning towards saf, I think the VS attack is always a solid thing to do (certainly at the beginning part of day one!!) but without substance now. I'm not satisfied with saf dragging me into being a "main case" or dropping it when he was caught out. So ... vote saf.

And that really will be my last vote for a while!!

Happy holidays everyone.

I never dropped it. Are you denying that you are at odds with Tails? Pressure currently may be on tails, but it's always worth noting who's running the case. Knowing who's on what side of the case can be very important later on when people start dying. I'm standing by my assertion that you and the tails case are tied mainly because you ran the case on him.
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby edocsil on Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:43 pm

chapcrap wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Chap what are you getting at? I don't undertand your point.

What I'm getting at is that edoc said Tails said everything he could. Except he hasn't. He didn't respond to my direct post at him.

Tails tried to say that he didn't post for so long because he had nothing to say even though he was paying attention. VS and I directed posts at Tails immediately after his last post before his absence and then he disappeared for 5 or 6 days and never responded. He still hasn't.

So, I'm getting at the fact that Tails needs to respond and edoc needs to stop skimming.


Yarg, its the finger of skimming. How about this? You made some good posts against Tails, and 90% of the people voting him were just lousy bandwagoners. TG responds in a basic fashion and everyone is like "but he told me I was just a lousy bandwagoner, WaAAH." You all then proceed to grill him again for more or less the same thing as the first time you bothered him.

TLDR: Your case was good, your supporters were not.
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby zimmah on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:44 pm

thehippo8 wrote:@Tail ... Good post and I am convincedunvote.

I also am leaning towards saf, I think the VS attack is always a solid thing to do (certainly at the beginning part of day one!!) but without substance now. I'm not satisfied with saf dragging me into being a "main case" or dropping it when he was caught out. So ... vote saf.

And that really will be my last vote for a while!!

Happy holidays everyone.


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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby zimmah on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:49 pm

safariguy5 wrote:
zimmah wrote:well, if i had to pick one sole person to lynch today i'd probably pick safari.

not sure why, but he's got a scummy vibe to me this game. something seems not to add up, i just can't see what exacly.

maybe i'm just way off, maybe i'm not. but my feelings tell me safari is no good.

Fine...I might as well claim because you guys have apparently completely missed the posts where I softclaimed earlier.

I'm an Orc Mercenary, and I am town masons with ghostly. I've brought it up multiple times, but apparently nobody picked up on that.


sounds 3rd party to me, but seems viable.

and ecoc, i'd rather join a 1000 lousy bandwagons then end the day in a nolynch.. and even with all the bandwaggoning going on this day and 31 pages of chat and active scumhunting, we still seem to end the day in a NL and with no real information.

i really wish we had more time, but seems like we dont.
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:36 pm

No real information? 3 claims is no real information?
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby zimmah on Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:53 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:No real information? 3 claims is no real information?


my wording was a bit bad i guess, even though certain people have claimed, they may as well be fakeclaims, there's no way to find out on day 1 if they are fake or not. when someone dies, we're sure of the alignment. that's basically what i meant. but i guess we should just live with the claims for now and hope N1 will bring us more reliable information and not too many deaths, for all we know we may have 4 casualties tonight.
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:05 pm

Saf wrote:I'm an Orc Mercenary, and I am town masons with ghostly. I've brought it up multiple times, but apparently nobody picked up on that.


ha I actually had a paragraph in my last post regarding that and how it tied into the monster/human discussion and the day scene... I edited it out because I figured the discussion had kinda moved on. Flavor wise, your claim holds because I doubt you'd fakeclaim that.

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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:15 pm

Day 1 Ends! No lynch
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:30 pm

Perhaps it was the chaos of the barfight, or maybe it was just the ale, but it took surprisingly long for the company of heroes to recognize just how large this brawl had turned out to be. The wizard was the first to come to his senses and recognize the gravity of the situation. Thinking quickly, the wizard muttered a short incantation and tapped his staff against the ground. Immediately, time stopped.

Knowing he couldn't keep the spell up forever, we hurriedly grabbed the immobilized bodies of his companions and dragged them upstairs and into one of the guest rooms. Right before he was about to drop the spell, he had a bright idea and ran downstairs to haul the innkeeper's immobilized body up into the room with them. Finally, he barricaded the door, dropped the spell, and collapsed out of exhaustion.

His companions had a brief moment of confusion before they recognized what the wizard had done. This hadn't been the first time he had used such a method to get them out of a tight situation. As they began to calm down, it dawned on them just what had happened. There had been monsters fighting alongside the men in the bar. The paladin grabbed the pale innkeep by the neck and lifted him in the air.

"You've got some explaining to do..."

Night 1 Begins!
Night will probably last until after Christmas. Happy holidays everyone!
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby chapcrap on Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:57 pm

Mr. Squirrel wrote:Perhaps it was the chaos of the barfight, or maybe it was just the ale, but it took surprisingly long for the company of heroes to recognize just how large this brawl had turned out to be. The wizard was the first to come to his senses and recognize the gravity of the situation. Thinking quickly, the wizard muttered a short incantation and tapped his staff against the ground. Immediately, time stopped.

Knowing he couldn't keep the spell up forever, we hurriedly grabbed the immobilized bodies of his companions and dragged them upstairs and into one of the guest rooms. Right before he was about to drop the spell, he had a bright idea and ran downstairs to haul the innkeeper's immobilized body up into the room with them. Finally, he barricaded the door, dropped the spell, and collapsed out of exhaustion.

His companions had a brief moment of confusion before they recognized what the wizard had done. This hadn't been the first time he had used such a method to get them out of a tight situation. As they began to calm down, it dawned on them just what had happened. There had been monsters fighting alongside the men in the bar. The paladin grabbed the pale innkeep by the neck and lifted him in the air.

"You've got some explaining to do..."

Night 1 Begins!
Night will probably last until after Christmas. Happy holidays everyone!

I thought the deadline was midnight. Bummer, because I had something to say!!

Sweet dreams all!
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby drake_259 on Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:51 am

Mr. Squirrel wrote:Night 1 Begins!
Night will probably last until after Christmas. Happy holidays everyone!

Works for me :P
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby / on Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:46 pm

Mod, could you change the thread title?
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Re: The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Day 1! Barfights

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:46 pm

/ wrote:Mod, could you change the thread title?

Thank you for reminding me
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