Crazys Superhero Mafia! Game Over! Villains Win!

[jgordon1111]

Well, well, well, we hit it lucky. I tracked Betico. Betico visited skillfulsniper last night. I know he is not scum, not saying why just now. But / reneged on the plan and IMHO that makes him scum. He's pretty high on my list for a lynching. But I have to agree that SG7 is the man of the hour because there's no way I can argue with NG1, wish I was a watcher then I'd know what he's talking about, but he'll no doubt make himself clear shortly. Until then ... vote SG7

WE planed NOTHING, YOU made a plan with YOURSELF, while skimming over my multiple instructions,

I can confirm the mod informed me of shield targeting me last night... Because I am a tracker, a bit odd to have two town trackers in the games, eh hippo?

@ hippo, somewhat of a FOS situation there I believe, but our roles are the most easily provable, tonight, either I should track you, or you should track myself so we may trust each others claim, also our claims today prove nothing, and yours wasn't really needed, since shield admitted he targeted me...

Also @ Hippo, do you agree with my plan to prove our abilities?

@ hippo, let me guess, tomorrow I'm supposed to prove my role by saying "you targeted betiko" right?
yeah, the only point of a tracker is to say something everyone doesn't already know, but at least we know who to off as your scumbuddy if you flip non-tracker mafia though.
TRACK ME TONIGHT, tell me who I targeted, then I'll say my result on them.

If this checks out with NG1 hippo my vote will go on SG7, If not we will see where you stand then.

And which leads me to this / it was agreed on what was going to be done to help protect Betiko and NG1 why on earth did you deviate,If you had stck to the plan then jaks death wouldnt be a question for you.

And skill will you come in and say something please.

well obviously trackers can't protect anyone so how would this protect betiko...and how in any way shape or form would it protect new guy..and mafia had the illusion that they were visiting them but yet they were still killed which leads me to believe either hippo or / to be mafia

Clever if / had stuck to what was supposed to be done right now he would not have much to worry about because NG1 could identify everyone who was with betiko, hippo on betiko,/on hippo,and betiko on skill, that would have auto dismissed skill,leehar,jak,you and me.

Now we are still spread with 2 kills and both trackers still claiming there roles and can only verify hippo if NG1 says he is right.

Even if I tracked Hippo, NG would not have seen me, because I would have targeted hippo, not betiko, and that would have given us the [sarcasm]oh so valuable information[/sarcasm] that thehippo visited betiko, which would have already been confirmed by newguy, why on earth would I waste my role targeting known variables rather than unknowns?

/ the obvious went by me there until you pointed it out to me,you are correct on what your saying about NG1 not being able to confirm you.

So the obvious flaw in the plan you tried to point out earlier is killing us.

I forget just because I havent played with you before your not new to this.

NG1 are you going to clear hippo? something is still wrong here, I cant pin it though.

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by the way, neither of the wanderers mentioned would fit with scratching someone to death, so it shouldn't be shield if he wasn't lying about his name, neither should it be hippo if he is indeed night-crawler. possibilities from least to most likely IMO.

1.Shield is lying about his name and role, he is a killer.
2. Skill is a paranoid gun owner type role, and killed betiko automatically once targeted
3. Hippo is lying about him name and alignment, my guess for most likely mafia tracker would be Sabertooth from the x-men, this fits with being scratched to death.
4. Newguy our watcher is now also a killer because her twin was killed, the scratches are constant with her ability to become any animal/dinosaur.

[jgordon1111]

by the way, neither of the wanderers mentioned would fit with scratching someone to death, so it shouldn't be shield if he wasn't lying about his name, neither should it be hippo if he is indeed night-crawler. possibilities from least to most likely IMO.

1.Shield is lying about his name and role, he is a killer.
2. Skill is a paranoid gun owner type role, and killed betiko automatically once targeted
3. Hippo is lying about him name and alignment, my guess for most likely mafia tracker would be Sabertooth from the x-men, this fits with being scratched to death.
4. Newguy our watcher is now also a killer because her twin was killed, the scratches are constant with her ability to become any animal/dinosaur.

I believe that NG1 is zan the brother he turned into minerals and water etc. I think at this point NG1 is pretty much cleared as town all the way. Or did I read the role that crown have wrong?

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by the way, neither of the wanderers mentioned would fit with scratching someone to death, so it shouldn't be shield if he wasn't lying about his name, neither should it be hippo if he is indeed night-crawler. possibilities from least to most likely IMO.

1.Shield is lying about his name and role, he is a killer.
2. Skill is a paranoid gun owner type role, and killed betiko automatically once targeted
3. Hippo is lying about him name and alignment, my guess for most likely mafia tracker would be Sabertooth from the x-men, this fits with being scratched to death.
4. Newguy our watcher is now also a killer because her twin was killed, the scratches are constant with her ability to become any animal/dinosaur.

I believe that NG1 is zan the brother he turned into minerals and water etc. I think at this point NG1 is pretty much cleared as town all the way. Or did I read the role that crown have wrong?

hmmm, you are right, I was thrown since, the scene kept saying "him". Just to be sure, Mod, can you tell us if it was the male or female wondertwin that was lynched?

[crazymilkshake5]

It was the female wonder twin, my bad, lol

[jgordon1111]

thank you crazy for the confirmation on that.

[new guy1]

Hippo is confirmed. Sorry I was out. Both of you visited betiko. Now I think someone said that Jak was the one scratched to death, not betiko (gunshot). I believe that SG7's role would use a gun if it is the one that CLEVER described. If it is the wanderer with the poisonous skin, then it makes no sense that she would use a gun when she can kill him by touch and the flavor would be off because spiderman's immunity would have no purpose. Therefore, I believe that SG7 is the wanderer that CLEVER described, since it would go with the flavor.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Hippo is confirmed. Sorry I was out. Both of you visited betiko. Now I think someone said that Jak was the one scratched to death, not betiko (gunshot). I believe that SG7's role would use a gun if it is the one that CLEVER described. If it is the wanderer with the poisonous skin, then it makes no sense that she would use a gun when she can kill him by touch and the flavor would be off because spiderman's immunity would have no purpose. Therefore, I believe that SG7 is the wanderer that CLEVER described, since it would go with the flavor.

i didnt even know there was more than one. but i agree it has to be the one i described. now honestly i have to agree with slash on what he did. it would be so easy for him so say waht you did since it was kinda given. and me being me i would have called both of you on it so good job / . but this will be it for me today ill get on tommorow.

[jgordon1111]

So are you saying it was hippo then NG1

[Leehar]

Just be careful looking too deeply into scene flavour. I remember a game where everyone got stuck up thinking a knife used meant a serial killer, when in actuality it wasn't the case, so it's something to keep in mind!

[shieldgenerator7]

Alright, I still have my suspicions n both hippo and /. For one, they both tracked people who died last night. Second, betiko being cop, it would have no effect on skillfu so hippo's tracking abilities aren't confirmed, as neither betiko or skillfu can confirm that hippo tracked betiko to skillfu. And / didn't claim who jak targeted. Oh wait, he was a VT. Never mind. But still, neither of their claims are confirmed, because / could have just as easily lied about tracking jak and actually have been the killer. And their D1 results don't clear them either. They claimed they tracked me AFTER I had already claimed who I targeted.

NG1 so you said only me and hippo targeted betiko last night? It wasn't me, so VOTE HIPPO

More in a little bit, also Clever what did you do last night?

-SG7 ( )

[thehippo8]

Alright, I still have my suspicions n both hippo and /. For one, they both tracked people who died last night. Second, betiko being cop, it would have no effect on skillfu so hippo's tracking abilities aren't confirmed, as neither betiko or skillfu can confirm that hippo tracked betiko to skillfu. And / didn't claim who jak targeted. Oh wait, he was a VT. Never mind. But still, neither of their claims are confirmed, because / could have just as easily lied about tracking jak and actually have been the killer. And their D1 results don't clear them either. They claimed they tracked me AFTER I had already claimed who I targeted.

NG1 so you said only me and hippo targeted betiko last night? It wasn't me, so VOTE HIPPO

More in a little bit, also Clever what did you do last night?

-SG7 ( )

Go back and read what I said. You are skimming like a stone on water!!

[shieldgenerator7]

Well, well, well, we hit it lucky. I tracked Betico. Betico visited skillfulsniper last night. I know he is not scum, not saying why just now. But / reneged on the plan and IMHO that makes him scum. He's pretty high on my list for a lynching. But I have to agree that SG7 is the man of the hour because there's no way I can argue with NG1, wish I was a watcher then I'd know what he's talking about, but he'll no doubt make himself clear shortly. Until then ... vote SG7

This. This is what you said. It doesn't clear you at all. You hint at having gotten betiko's investigative result, but that doesn't mean you actually got it. You could be scum who already knows who is innocent, and thus you can clear skillfu because of that.

Also you say I'm skimming. What about my post indicates I am skimming? I didn't see anything there that would indicate such.

[Leehar]

Didn't ng say / was also on betiko? :s

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Just be careful looking too deeply into scene flavour. I remember a game where everyone got stuck up thinking a knife used meant a serial killer, when in actuality it wasn't the case, so it's something to keep in mind!

well claws def. mean claws and i dont think that anyone was saying that they had to be something specific

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nope slash was supposed to but he didnt which now that i think about it he is cleared town cause he could have said that slash did visit so he really is the watcher

[shieldgenerator7]

I suspect that both / and hippo are killers. They aren't cleared trackers, and both of their targets last night are dead. And the characters they claim could just as easily be fakeclaims.

The one thing that is missing here is: Why didn't I die N1? If they're both killers, and the targeted me, why didn't I die?
Possible scenarios:

-I am immune to NK (not likely)
-Both / and hippo got roleblocked
-I got doc'd by a ninja doc (unlikely especially since ghostly's death)
-Cone of Silence also acted as a doc mechanism (possible since it is meant to isolate)
-The two NKs canceled each other out, thus no kill (much like in Fire & Ice Mafia)
-The killers had to be activated later
-The kills last night were one-shot kills

What I want:
-skillfu to talk. Can you confirm if betiko targeted you? If yes, how do you know?
-Clever: What action did you use last night? If that's confidential, can you safely tell us who you targeted?

ALso I sincerely believe that either hippo or / or both are mafia/killers at this point.

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-SG7 ( )

[thehippo8]

@NG7 ... you didn't die because we are trackers as we say. Everything you say is so scummy it smacks of desperation. Corner a rodent and they will lash out, anything under those fingernails??

You're various scenarious are cute, but I am certain now that you are mafia and await for the rest of town to catch up with that.

[new guy1]

Did you mean NG1? Cause if you did I would like posts where I seem desperate. Cause all I see is posts of information trying to gather information to help the town win since we need something to go off of.

[thehippo8]

Did you mean NG1? Cause if you did I would like posts where I seem desperate. Cause all I see is posts of information trying to gather information to help the town win since we need something to go off of.

No, I meant SG7, sorry about the confusion

[new guy1]

Its okay. lol.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

I suspect that both / and hippo are killers. They aren't cleared trackers, and both of their targets last night are dead. And the characters they claim could just as easily be fakeclaims.

The one thing that is missing here is: Why didn't I die N1? If they're both killers, and the targeted me, why didn't I die?
Possible scenarios:

-I am immune to NK (not likely)
-Both / and hippo got roleblocked
-I got doc'd by a ninja doc (unlikely especially since ghostly's death)
-Cone of Silence also acted as a doc mechanism (possible since it is meant to isolate)
-The two NKs canceled each other out, thus no kill (much like in Fire & Ice Mafia)
-The killers had to be activated later
-The kills last night were one-shot kills

What I want:
-skillfu to talk. Can you confirm if betiko targeted you? If yes, how do you know?
-Clever: What action did you use last night? If that's confidential, can you safely tell us who you targeted?

ALso I sincerely believe that either hippo or / or both are mafia/killers at this point.

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-SG7 ( )

well im just gonna say my other powers.
1.) the cone of silence
2.) the shoe phone
3.) and a suit of armor

but there is a trick to number 2 . i could only use it night two other wise it shorts out. but last night i didnt use it as i had no idea who i could trust since crown died and showed up town. so last night i used the suit of armor which protects me at night (question towards the mod: does it protect me from this days lynch as well?) so now im stuck not being able to do anything tonight or the next so im pretty much a VT till then but i think that answers your question sg7

[crazymilkshake5]

(question towards the mod: does it protect me from this days lynch as well?)

PM sent, do not quote the PM or rephrase it in any way.

[jgordon1111]

to many people cant prove anything at this point.

We know for sure from NG1 2 visited betiko and he died, thats fifty/fifty. one of them is scum.

We dont have a better option I can see,because / went out on his own,if he is town I can see his explanation.

So I believe right now its between hippo and SG7 and to tell you the truth I am not sure.

The other thing is skill keeps laying low. Yes he is posting but not in a regular way. I would like to hear from him also. But thats kinda the way he seems to play.

2 trackers unlikely, a player who doesnt know what his role does day 3 odd.

I have went back through this game from D1 and am failing to get positive evidence on anyone.

Who has a real good idea? Thats not going to leave us down another town.

And I am still leaning toward sg7 have been for awhile,and still not trying to frame him I am not sure,leehar had a good point not to read into the flavour.

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Who has a real good idea? Thats not going to leave us down another town.

And I am still leaning toward sg7 have been for awhile,and still not trying to frame him I am not sure,leehar had a good point not to read into the flavour.

Well, strictly speaking shield is not town, so weather or not he's the killer, lynching him doesn't leave us down a townie unless a townie dies tonight, which hardly seems preventable, I would say, even though I lean more towards hippo on the grounds that, A. He's been counterclaimed B. He announced his first result at a completely pointless time C. He is going out of his way to NEVER EVER respond to me D. He, if not a tracker, has the greatest reason to want betiko dead, since he had announced his action on him in advance.

Still it should be one of the two if using an Occam's Razor principal. the only other choice is the confirmed watcher, or betiko's target, who, if a PGO (paranoid gun owner) type role, should claim as such to avoid further casualties.

If the deadline comes closer, I am fine with lynching shield, IF HE FLIPS A NON-KILLING ROLE, I SUGGEST A VIG KILL HIPPO TONIGHT, but for now, there is time for discussion.

@Shield, Does your role PM give any description of your character? Anything? Even just a Male or Female Pronoun?

Also, why target our cop after the possibility of a "touch of death" was brought up?

[shieldgenerator7]

WHy target betiko? He said something about his role changing in the night, so I thought it might have something to do with my role and getting my role activated. Honestly, I 've never had a role before where my goal wasn't laid out in front of me. I'm just trying to figure out who I am and what I do. Since I don't know my alignment, lynching me won't cost the town any (as I can't really say I'm town, I can't really say I'm mafia/third party either), but I think I have the potential to be beneficial to town, if I target the right person. I have no clue who that person might be, so when I got a clue from Betiko about role changing, I thought this might be it. No dice. Nothing happened last night as a result of my role. And about the flavor of my character, I don't think there was much but I'll check it again.