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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby Anarkistsdream on Sat May 17, 2014 10:56 am

Aage is about and posting, just to clear another name on the watch list.

I laughed when I read the few posts talking about how annoying I can be. The difference is my theories are usually correct. Especially in the past few games I have been in.

I really am flip flopping on this jak thing. Is he a jester taking credit for zivels death? It would perhaps be one of the most awesome moves I have ever seen in mafia. However, based on jaks playstyle in other games, I think he wouldn't think to do that. He is too forthcoming. The problem is that I do not believe he has ever been mafia in any of the games he has played. So would his playstyle change? Would he still be so blustery and full of bravado? Or would he chill out and sit back?

As for the horse game... I still believe it to be a moderator-based game... My only issue with that is Iron Butterfly having to be in it two days. IB, if this is your role and you have to participate every day, I really feel for you. Haha

Going out to golf and drink now... Will post again later and try to lay down a vote based on the few cases that we have had so far in the game.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [22/22] D1 End! Tie Vote!

Postby DoomYoshi on Sat May 17, 2014 11:09 am

Rodion wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Nark's appeal to emotion didn't sit right with me. Moreso since he has ranted against specifically his own behavior. I wouldn't say "self-righteous" or "whiner" but there is some hypocrisy here. I am betting SK.


Why not mafia?


I didn't answer this question from yesterday yet.

I am trying to imagine a ploy which involves a "breakdown" on D1 which will attract a lot of early attention but "clear" me in the eyes of many.

An SK in a huge game can afford to skip a night of killing and throw off watchers, trackers and roleblockers.

If he were mafia, it would only make sense if he were godfather.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby HotShot53 on Sat May 17, 2014 11:11 am

DoomYoshi wrote:After sleeping on it, unvote. There are too many players to just start lynching someone who I think is probably town.

My case on Nark is only based on gut feeling (I am not a fan of appeals to emotion) and anti-meta. Other players may have other cases, but they all sucked in my eyes.

betiko is inactive... again. Yet he is on every day. Scummarrining to the max.

vote betiko


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Betiko is usually very opinionated and chatty. Where is he? We have a pool of 9 who have been involved with the horse game. We have 11 not involved. I suspect one of those eleven is the horse game lyncher. yes I know master of the obvious.


As I have stated before (in both this thread and previous games), if I don't have any scum reads I am in favor of putting pressure on a scummarizer, if nothing else it gets discussions going and keeps the game more active.

Betiko last posted here on May 14th saying he had to catch up. Since then he has made multiple posts every day on other random threads, so he's obviously not missing. Not missing + not posting = scummarizing in my book. vote Betiko
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby Whatsausage on Sat May 17, 2014 2:46 pm

Howdy all, sorry about the delay today. And I am sorry to announce that this Monday through Friday I will be mostly unavailable. I should be able to get caught up on Wednesday and post hopefully. Busy guy am I
As for who I am watching, sheep has not posted for quite a while (I am guilty of the same)

Well jak... I don't agree with your decision at all. I give you credit for taking credit for the kill, but that doesn't make the kill any better. Basically more OMGUS on an admittedly weak read. It may have been the best you had, but I'd say not having much means it is time to wait. I am tempted to go along with the idea to "make an example out of you," but I just can't justify lynching someone I don't believe (as of now) to be scum. If you are in fact town, then we would have used the town's strongest powers in a consecutive day and night to kill two town members (not the best use of our power haha). However, I am being more and more dissuaded from believing you are town from your desire to keep your actions secret. First loosely say that you could only kill this first night, which turns into you having already decided which night is best for which action. You have also claimed without saying it flat out that you don't have an investigative power. I know you said you didn't want to let the town bully you into controlling your actions, but I propose a compromise. You tell us at least what they are, and we don't tell you how to use them (I can't promise there won't be suggestions). So share those actions, to help me believe in your intentions

And I get like a zillion brownie points for horse-voting virus right? ;)

Oh btw, 3's and 7's is a song by Queens of the Stone Age, this must be what pcm meant with his D1 post :!: :lol:
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby Whatsausage on Sat May 17, 2014 2:51 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:As for the horse game... I still believe it to be a moderator-based game... My only issue with that is Iron Butterfly having to be in it two days. IB, if this is your role and you have to participate every day, I really feel for you. Haha


IB wasn't in it the first day....?
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby Anarkistsdream on Sat May 17, 2014 3:05 pm

Whatsausage wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:As for the horse game... I still believe it to be a moderator-based game... My only issue with that is Iron Butterfly having to be in it two days. IB, if this is your role and you have to participate every day, I really feel for you. Haha


IB wasn't in it the first day....?

Whoa... you are right... don't know why I thought that.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby spiesr on Sat May 17, 2014 3:26 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
Whatsausage wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:As for the horse game... I still believe it to be a moderator-based game... My only issue with that is Iron Butterfly having to be in it two days. IB, if this is your role and you have to participate every day, I really feel for you. Haha
IB wasn't in it the first day....?
Whoa... you are right... don't know why I thought that.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby jak111 on Sat May 17, 2014 5:10 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Hmm, I don't believe I'll be participating in the jak lynch. Just something about it that got some serious funk about it. We have a guy who ruffles some feathers D1, claims without any real pressure, and now conveniently fesses up to killing Zivel while dropping some hilariously bad hypocritical posts and scum tells?

It's a little too neat for me and reeks of a ploy.

-Tails


Read the rules, if I didn't claim (which aage whom quoted your post after missed as well). If at the end of the day, the thing with the MOST VOTES will be done. At the moment of my claim deadline was approaching and I had the most votes. So it's not really "any real pressure" it's the pressure of being close to lynch deadline with majority votes of voters.

@ IB, I used it because I am trying to use all my powers before I die. For N1 it was the most productive action that unfortunally now has an unproductive voting pattern today. I remember my first game too, that was a long time ago, I'm not the best mafia player (not yet :p give it 10 more years), but I know the wagon on me consists of scum egging it on. Including a few townies that just don't like me for saying I'm not going to kiss their ass for them. I know I'm town, I do not know ANYONE else that is town. So it's not as much as not listening to everyone as it is avoiding falling into what the scum want me to do.

Now, I have even said my roles left are more protection roles, notice how the wagon keeps growing. I cannot make a kill any longer, now I can only protect other power roles (preferably investigation ones). People will hide their true reasons for voting me, but does it not make sense to get rid of a JOAT with protection powers left that could stop a kill?

@Nebuch, your post is actually EXTREMELY scummy. You deny that there are votes on me for just me being "Annoying" so to speak to a few people. Just raise of hands of everyone on my wagon, how many ACTUALLY think I am scum? That will give better reads than guessing which are voting because they dislike me and which are voting because they think they've got scum.

Then I read your post further. Vote Nebuch. You FOS two people for not voting me when it's obvious there's mafia using me as an "easy lynch". I guess everyone who doesn't kill the townie off are mafia yeah? I wish games were that simple I'd catch the scum every game then if we had that kind of scum.

Yeah, I'm looking at Nebuch today, his post is just way too off. I don't think he actually thinks I'm scum. I don't think he ever has. He's actually been one of the few trying to egg it on since the beginning.

@Anark, oh I've been mafia, like 3-4 times about, usually 3rd party though. One game I was mafia in was a basic 2 mafia, cop, doc and 3 VT set-up. I lead the mafia into victory by sacking myself and getting the town's cop killed before he could find my partner. (NOT saying I'm mafia this game, just letting you know I've been mafia and when I am I tend to be more of a suicide bomber XD).

@Sausage, pretty sure a few hours after I sent in the action I realised it was a bad move for N1, but that fucking clock guy... too late to change what happened. I just find it hard to believe Nebuch really thinks half the people are voting me because they think I'm "scum". As far as my actions go, I'll let slip 2 of them. Water = Doc save. Air = Bus Drive. Both usable to protect any investigation roles. So if we do out an investigation role I can at least protect him for 2 nights and get the main docs to focus elsewhere. If not out an investigative role I'll use my Earth ability.

My vote is staying on Nebuch. His choices of FOS's and why he does seems off.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sat May 17, 2014 5:27 pm

Illunvote vote Betiko

So you used your vig action before you could be killed? STUPID. I understand the fear of death but it really is something that we can not control in many respects. Some times the best course of action is to just be quiet and lay low when you have something more tangible to work with. You want to change your meta start with that.

Your only saving grace right now...well two actually, as others have suggested I doubt if you were mafia you would admit you killed Zivel. The other is that Betiko is mia and has not posted.

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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sat May 17, 2014 5:38 pm

jak wrote:Read the rules, if I didn't claim (which aage whom quoted your post after missed as well). If at the end of the day, the thing with the MOST VOTES will be done. At the moment of my claim deadline was approaching and I had the most votes. So it's not really "any real pressure" it's the pressure of being close to lynch deadline with majority votes of voters.


Instead of claiming almost instantaneously, you could've argued and refuted points, or otherwise deferred attention. Instead you quickly claimed town JOAT, which predictably would cause the wagon to ease up. And, to add upon what aage said, if you are scum, then it has allowed the rest of the mafia faction to hide out while sacrificing somebody who was suspicious anyway.

So here's what I've got as possibilities:
  • You are actually scum (in which case you should be lynched)
  • You are some anti-town role that benefits from being lynched (see Yomiel's vengeful ghost role from CYOC I)
  • You are town and play horribly

Which is it?

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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby aage on Sat May 17, 2014 6:32 pm

jak111 wrote:Read the rules, if I didn't claim (which aage whom quoted your post after missed as well). If at the end of the day, the thing with the MOST VOTES will be done. At the moment of my claim deadline was approaching and I had the most votes. So it's not really "any real pressure" it's the pressure of being close to lynch deadline with majority votes of voters.

Majority by one vote, though, and if the clock guy hadn't been there (a) you would have had several days to defend yourself, and (b) we wouldn't even have had to revote after the tie since Nark would've had the most votes. I read the rules, even before they were quoted numerous times. You could've just moved your own vote towards the largest wagon to avoid getting killed: it's as good a survival tactic as any, doesn't require you to become a dreaded outed PR, and would raise a lot less questions.

Now, I have even said my roles left are more protection roles, notice how the wagon keeps growing.

First of all, when did you say this? here? "...be glad I didn't waste any protection roles last night"? If you want people to take your claims into account, try making them a bit less dramatic and vague. Second of all, since apparently you only have protection roles left, how exactly are you a threat to the mafia right now, apart from your superior reasoning skills? And then why would mafia be ganging up on such a high profile wagon against a claimed towny, based on that towny being "annoying"?

@Nebuch, your post is actually EXTREMELY scummy. You deny that there are votes on me for just me being "Annoying" so to speak to a few people. Just raise of hands of everyone on my wagon, how many ACTUALLY think I am scum? That will give better reads than guessing which are voting because they dislike me and which are voting because they think they've got scum.

Sorry for speaking out of turn, but I don't think this lynch should be regarded as a policy lynch. My main reason is that I seriously doubt it will have any effect on your future play, since you're clearly convinced that you are still in the right, and I don't mind stubbornness as much because I am too. You have a point though, which is why I don't mind that the day has trailed off to a discussion about you; if you do happen to pop town, we may learn a lot from this wagon.

@Anark, oh I've been mafia, like 3-4 times about, usually 3rd party though. One game I was mafia in was a basic 2 mafia, cop, doc and 3 VT set-up. I lead the mafia into victory by sacking myself and getting the town's cop killed before he could find my partner. (NOT saying I'm mafia this game, just letting you know I've been mafia and when I am I tend to be more of a suicide bomber XD).

I thought you were changing your meta.

@Sausage, pretty sure a few hours after I sent in the action I realised it was a bad move for N1, but that fucking clock guy... too late to change what happened. I just find it hard to believe Nebuch really thinks half the people are voting me because they think I'm "scum". As far as my actions go, I'll let slip 2 of them. Water = Doc save. Air = Bus Drive. Both usable to protect any investigation roles. So if we do out an investigation role I can at least protect him for 2 nights and get the main docs to focus elsewhere. If not out an investigative role I'll use my Earth ability.

So why not use the busdrive on yourself and Zivel N1? You seemed to have been afraid that the scum was trying to kill you, so why not use one of your protective powers (since apparently you have loads of those) to protect yourself? In the long run that would've yielded some results as well, as I'm assuming a bunch of night actions went to you last night. Protection abilities generally are weaker than killing abilities anyway.


In rereading your posts trying to find your claim about protective roles I also came across this phrase, which enforces my suspicion that you do not actually care about town:
"Literally, if town wants my help, show it."
Of course town bloody wants your help. It almost seems like you misinterpret the premises of the game. Any towny should know that the rest of town wants their help, regardless of whether they are being attacked or even lynched, first and foremost because they are town themselves and therefore want town to win. I assume you want to win too, so why and/or how should 'town' (whoever that is, because as far as I'm concerned everyone in the game is town or pretending to be) show that they want your help? Do you want gratitude? Then don't shoot players during N1, and also don't brag about it afterwards.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby aage on Sat May 17, 2014 6:33 pm

I forgot to add. Lootifer hasn't posted in the last three days.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Sat May 17, 2014 9:14 pm

jak111 wrote:Yeah, I'm looking at Nebuch today, his post is just way too off. I don't think he actually thinks I'm scum. I don't think he ever has. He's actually been one of the few trying to egg it on since the beginning.

Hey! You got something right! Oh, wait, I put that directly in my post...

Nebuchadnezer wrote:Is he mafia? Probably not. 3rd party? Most likely. Sk? Definitely possible. Town? Might be.


It makes no sense that you would be scum. Why do you think the Clock ended night early? There was no way mafia saw that coming, and no way they were prepared to submit their actions by the time night was prematurely ended. No, mafia did not make any moves last night, I'm sure. Yet, you come in here with your shit storm and pull every eye in your direction anyway. I didn't "egg" anyone on...you did plenty yourself. I do apologize for trying to make you see how your play so far has been terrible. Some people are just too stubborn. The problem is, you will do this again next game and wonder why everyone is on you again. But I digress...

So, why FOS Hotshot and KGB? Why not? It wasn't a vote...just a FOS. If I recall correctly, it was their first posts of the day...and all they do is come in a say, Jak is probably town. What? At least give us something else of who you do think is mafia then. Jak has been the biggest flop of the day. If you don't think he's scum, has anyone else stood out to you? Hotshot gave us nothing else of his thoughts. KGB gave us the ever famous "I'll check into it". So, yes, FOS both of them, it was knee-jerk reaction.

Reading back on both of them fully, I would withdraw those. I've got nothing else to build a case on either of them. Well, Hotshot is voting an inactive now...but we'll see how that pans out. Overall, they've both been active, so I will not focus on them for now.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby pancakemix on Sat May 17, 2014 9:22 pm

aage wrote:I forgot to add. Lootifer hasn't posted in the last three days.


Lootifer gave me notice that he would be away. Should've conveyed that. Apologies.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby Whatsausage on Sat May 17, 2014 10:16 pm

Well, I can't help but wonder if jak (or an ally of his) is the one with the clock power... It would make sense, considering it occurred pretty much as soon as he was no longer in the lead. Close enough that it led jak to post that he thought the person who shortened the day did it to kill him. I really want to think that he posted this to lead us off the trail, a believable alibi. This fits pretty well with a third party role. Either jak is a killer and his buddy "saved" him, or jak did it himself. Granted, this would make more sense if he waited for say anark to pull ahead of him, and you would think he would wait longer in the night to give mafia a chance for a kill creating more deaths (unless he was afraid of being a target, or as mentioned the early ends went hand in hand).
What are everyone else's thoughts on this possibility?
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby MudPuppy on Sat May 17, 2014 10:57 pm

Alright, finally caught up. Took longer than expected and read like A Tale of Three Metas. The scummiest looking players (Nark, Doom, & Jak) all have a history.

The first time I played with Nark, I pretty much picked up on his style right away... he likes to stir the pot and loves a good argument (I assume regardless of his alignment). I don't take his attacks terribly seriously but I have little clue how to differentiate Town Nark from Mafia Nark... especially since he's never Mafia. :roll:

This is my first time playing with Doom and the more I read his posts the more of a scum feel I got. However, Strike's comment about Doom's craziness being on par with normal Doom craziness spoke volumes to me... so, he gets a pass for now 'til I get a better feel for what normal Doom craziness is. :mrgreen:

Jak's new meta sure looks a lot like the play style I've become accustomed to (though, it admittedly took me a while to catch on): multiple OMGUS votes driven by people "tunneling" him and reads based on gut feelings that seem to come from nowhere. I hate policy votes but if anyone were deserving of such a vote, it would be Jak. However, of all the current Mafia candidates, Jak also leads the way with scummy behavior. He could very well be Town but between the "new" meta, the N1 killing of Zivel with little basis, his belief that Rodion should be untouchable, etc., etc., etc., the choice is clear. I'm more than happy to discuss other candidates... but for now, I'll Vote Jak to make sure my vote gets recorded before the day ends.

The first character I thought of for this Clock roll is Michael Newman (Adam Sandler) from Click. Of course, there are many other possibilities but I wonder what the extent of the Clock's power is... It would be quite interesting if he could reverse time and unlynch someone. Though just the ability to speed up time is pretty dang powerful... I doubt pcm would allow him to reverse time... but I'd kinda like to see it happen just to add a little more craziness to the game.

@Sausage... I doubt Jak is the Clock. He probably truly is Ang... I just don't get the feeling that Ang is Town-aligned. It definitely could be an associate of his... but I am guessing the Clock is Town-aligned (since he presumably prevented Mafia actions last night) while I'm guessing Jak is not... so, based on that, I'll assume Jak has nothing to do with the Clock.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby Whatsausage on Sat May 17, 2014 11:26 pm

MudPuppy wrote:@Sausage... I doubt Jak is the Clock. He probably truly is Ang... I just don't get the feeling that Ang is Town-aligned. It definitely could be an associate of his... but I am guessing the Clock is Town-aligned (since he presumably prevented Mafia actions last night) while I'm guessing Jak is not... so, based on that, I'll assume Jak has nothing to do with the Clock.

I had that thought as well, but I struggle with a town-aligned role ending a day early. There doesn't seem to much benefit (especially when compared to night) being as it ends discussion sooner in favor of night where killers typically reign.
I guess when I look at it, it makes more sense for it to be jak or someone aligned with him. Unless the day and night early ends have to be dine together, I don't see another faction that would have benefitted from both of the early endings.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby spiesr on Sat May 17, 2014 11:42 pm

Whatsausage wrote:
MudPuppy wrote:@Sausage... I doubt Jak is the Clock. He probably truly is Ang... I just don't get the feeling that Ang is Town-aligned. It definitely could be an associate of his... but I am guessing the Clock is Town-aligned (since he presumably prevented Mafia actions last night) while I'm guessing Jak is not... so, based on that, I'll assume Jak has nothing to do with the Clock.

I had that thought as well, but I struggle with a town-aligned role ending a day early. There doesn't seem to much benefit (especially when compared to night) being as it ends discussion sooner in favor of night where killers typically reign.
I guess when I look at it, it makes more sense for it to be jak or someone aligned with him. Unless the day and night early ends have to be dine together, I don't see another faction that would have benefitted from both of the early endings.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby sheepofdumb on Sun May 18, 2014 1:47 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:Illunvote vote Betiko

So you used your vig action before you could be killed? STUPID. I understand the fear of death but it really is something that we can not control in many respects. Some times the best course of action is to just be quiet and lay low when you have something more tangible to work with. You want to change your meta start with that.

Your only saving grace right now...well two actually, as others have suggested I doubt if you were mafia you would admit you killed Zivel. The other is that Betiko is mia and has not posted.

vote betiko


I wouldn't worry about him. He'll either get prodded and come back, get replaced, or maybe the horse guy could be nice and start picking off inactives. I'd keep tabs on him and see how he gets handled.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sun May 18, 2014 10:17 am

sheepofdumb wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:Illunvote vote Betiko

So you used your vig action before you could be killed? STUPID. I understand the fear of death but it really is something that we can not control in many respects. Some times the best course of action is to just be quiet and lay low when you have something more tangible to work with. You want to change your meta start with that.

Your only saving grace right now...well two actually, as others have suggested I doubt if you were mafia you would admit you killed Zivel. The other is that Betiko is mia and has not posted.

vote betiko


I wouldn't worry about him. He'll either get prodded and come back, get replaced, or maybe the horse guy could be nice and start picking off inactives. I'd keep tabs on him and see how he gets handled.


I am certainly not worried. As others have stated he is active on site but not this game. He has always been vocal as a player. He is either playing or not. If he IS playing he needs to step up and soon.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby kgb007 on Sun May 18, 2014 12:12 pm

aage wrote:
kgb007 wrote:It make no sense for him to claim the zivel kill if he were scum.

Yes, it does. Imagine you were scum and just claimed JOAT. You haven't said anything about your abilities except that there are four. The next night, your mafia team kills one of the other players (perhaps even on Jak's urgings - it wouldn't strike me as strange if Jak would immediately try to take the upper hand in a 48-hour night with some people breathing down his neck) which gives you an excellent opportunity to claim that you used 'the only ability that would yield result'. Or, to put it differently: it is the only action that the town knows to have transpired, since pcm posted the death scene with absolutely no indication as to the intentions of Zivel's killer(s).

It's beautiful on several levels. First of all, nobody can call you a liar based on whether you actually put in the action, because Zivel clearly is dead. Secondly, anyone tracking you will have actually seen you visit Zivel if you put in the kill, so nobody can call you a liar based on whether you had anything to do with the murder. Lastly, you cannot be asked to use the kill ability again to 'prove' your towniness, because you already have.


So yes, it would make sense.

Of course, me laying out the scenario like this doesn't prove anything regarding Jak's alignments but I hope you understand why I don't buy the "he wouldn't dare"-argument.


I understand your point of view and I'm willing to back down on my affirmation that scum would never employ this tatic but it's pretty ballsy/gutsy, no? I think you're starting from a place of mind that presumes Jak is guilty. I know this isn't a courtroom so ppl don't get the benefit of being innocent before being found guilty.

In regards to the wagon on Jak, I haven't found anything that throws up a red flag from jmac, rodion, aage and sw. I've spent an hour looking at their posts from D1 but haven't reviewed doom's, jonty's or IB's posts as I'm running short on time at the moment. Though it looks like doom and IB have since moved towards an inactive

IB is my watch and has been active
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby edocsil on Sun May 18, 2014 12:18 pm

Jonty, that's my horse.

Running late today and I don't have the time for a full post. My dad asked for some help while I'm in town to replace his CV joints.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sun May 18, 2014 2:00 pm

Edocsil that's my horse
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby aage on Sun May 18, 2014 2:03 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:Edocsil that's my horse

You already have a horse, you greedy horse thief.
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Re: CYOC: TDT [20/22] D2: Sad Clowns

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun May 18, 2014 3:49 pm

sheepofdumb wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:Illunvote vote Betiko

So you used your vig action before you could be killed? STUPID. I understand the fear of death but it really is something that we can not control in many respects. Some times the best course of action is to just be quiet and lay low when you have something more tangible to work with. You want to change your meta start with that.

Your only saving grace right now...well two actually, as others have suggested I doubt if you were mafia you would admit you killed Zivel. The other is that Betiko is mia and has not posted.

vote betiko


I wouldn't worry about him. He'll either get prodded and come back, get replaced, or maybe the horse guy could be nice and start picking off inactives. I'd keep tabs on him and see how he gets handled.


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