Two Sides Mafia: Side B, EndGame, It Spreads

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Well jonty's role hinted that he might have a PGO ability. If we would have any townie hammer him, it'd be safest to have you hammer him milkshake because you have an unkillable ability.

And no I'm not a survivor I just don't want a townie to unnesecarily die because he hammered an unexpected PGO guy. And also there's the chance that a townie will unnecesarily die from jonty's random NK. So the logic today being that hopefully us townies will survive if we lynch the random killing for Side B.

Besides, even if I was a survivor (which I'm not), what's it to you? I don't have a killing role and I would be of no threat to town if I was a survivor. But the fact is I am what I said I am, Town Commuter

And yes I agree with Rodion: if he's going to claim anyways, it'd be best for DM to prove his ability by claiming Rodion's role first.

-SG7 ( )

i also know his side a role(or have a pretty good idea) so can i do it as well as to clear myself to

[jonty125]

Well jonty's role hinted that he might have a PGO ability. If we would have any townie hammer him, it'd be safest to have you hammer him milkshake because you have an unkillable ability.

And no I'm not a survivor I just don't want a townie to unnesecarily die because he hammered an unexpected PGO guy. And also there's the chance that a townie will unnecesarily die from jonty's random NK. So the logic today being that hopefully us townies will survive if we lynch the random killing for Side B.

Besides, even if I was a survivor (which I'm not), what's it to you? I don't have a killing role and I would be of no threat to town if I was a survivor. But the fact is I am what I said I am, Town Commuter

And yes I agree with Rodion: if he's going to claim anyways, it'd be best for DM to prove his ability by claiming Rodion's role first.

-SG7 ( )

i also know his side a role(or have a pretty good idea) so can i do it as well as to clear myself to

I don't see why not

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Well jonty's role hinted that he might have a PGO ability. If we would have any townie hammer him, it'd be safest to have you hammer him milkshake because you have an unkillable ability.

And no I'm not a survivor I just don't want a townie to unnesecarily die because he hammered an unexpected PGO guy. And also there's the chance that a townie will unnecesarily die from jonty's random NK. So the logic today being that hopefully us townies will survive if we lynch the random killing for Side B.

Besides, even if I was a survivor (which I'm not), what's it to you? I don't have a killing role and I would be of no threat to town if I was a survivor. But the fact is I am what I said I am, Town Commuter

And yes I agree with Rodion: if he's going to claim anyways, it'd be best for DM to prove his ability by claiming Rodion's role first.

-SG7 ( )

i also know his side a role(or have a pretty good idea) so can i do it as well as to clear myself to

I don't see why not

well just tell me when.. idk if i should before of after DM but ill wait till rodion tells me when to

[Rodion]

Clever - are you absolutely sure that saying my Side A role will make us believe you are town over there?

If so, can't you prove your towniness through other means (by saying someone else's role, like Edocsil's or New Guy's)?

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Clever - are you absolutely sure that saying my Side A role will make us believe you are town over there?

If so, can't you prove your towniness through other means (by saying someone else's role, like Edocsil's or New Guy's)?

i wish i could but as of right now i only know your side a role and i will claim and share my findings as to clear you and me (my investigating and new guys investigating put togethor gives me your role) so ya im pretty sure it will clear me

[new guy1]

Hmm. I would like to know, but only if Rodion wants to know, cause its his role and he has other plans for DM. Maybe DM can say it and CLEVER can kind of confirm it and give us his reasoning?

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Hmm. I would like to know, but only if Rodion wants to know, cause its his role and he has other plans for DM. Maybe DM can say it and CLEVER can kind of confirm it and give us his reasoning?

ya DM can say what he believes then i will say what i believe and rodion can confirm who is right or wrong

[Rodion]

Hmm. I would like to know, but only if Rodion wants to know, cause its his role and he has other plans for DM. Maybe DM can say it and CLEVER can kind of confirm it and give us his reasoning?

I'm torn.

I would not like Clever to say something that will not confirm him as town while we lose a good way to find out whether DM told the truth or just elaborated a sick plot with Jonty.

I also would not like to have DM answer something he could easily know from his Side A role (even though that could indicate who mafia tried to kill N1 as he would not waste his action investigating someone he presumed to die) while losing a good opportunity to confirm Clever's role (and maybe somehow his alignment?).

Go ahead, Clever, tell me my role and how you reached that conclusion. Then we'll have DM confirm whether you are right or wrong. Then I will confirm everything with a full claim.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Hmm. I would like to know, but only if Rodion wants to know, cause its his role and he has other plans for DM. Maybe DM can say it and CLEVER can kind of confirm it and give us his reasoning?

I'm torn.

I would not like Clever to say something that will not confirm him as town while we lose a good way to find out whether DM told the truth or just elaborated a sick plot with Jonty.

I also would not like to have DM answer something he could easily know from his Side A role (even though that could indicate who mafia tried to kill N1 as he would not waste his action investigating someone he presumed to die) while losing a good opportunity to confirm Clever's role (and maybe somehow his alignment?).

Go ahead, Clever, tell me my role and how you reached that conclusion. Then we'll have DM confirm whether you are right or wrong. Then I will confirm everything with a full claim.

well ok this is kinda nerve racking lol but anyways. Rodion as you know i thought you very scummy day one in side a cause of your whole plan to catch mafia/town or whatnot lol. so i tracked you the first night as i am Role Side A, The Hunter, Town Tracker and i saw you visited Victor Sullivan and i know its possible that others visited him but

I'll talk more later, but for now, I will say I was roleblocked last night. 'Twouldn't surprise me if it was a townie that roleblocked me. If so, that should clear me enough, given Rodion was doc-protected.

-Sully

he said he was roleblocked so i actually believed you to be mafia roleblocker but then new guy came out and said

Good, got a mafia. Now time to claim my findings:

I am the other half of VS's Side A role. I am The Town flavor cop on side B (Side A doesnt matter). I investigated Safariguy last night and found him to be mafia. He is either mafia or he was framed as I investigated Rodion's side A last night and found him to be innocent. Therefore Vote Safariguy for coming up guilty. And for those who are mafia on Side B, theres no point in killing my Side B cop role unless you are mafia on both sides. Mutually benifitial as long as your not mafia on both sides

so therefore i know your town and putting the pieces togethor im pretty damn positive that your side a role is town roleblocker

[Rodion]

Monkey, you're up.

Clever - you believed I was mafia roleblocker D2. New Guy said I was innocent D3. Why didn't you lead a case on me during D2?

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Monkey, you're up.

Clever - you believed I was mafia roleblocker D2. New Guy said I was innocent D3. Why didn't you lead a case on me during D2?

i didnt have enough proof i only had proof that you roleblocked not that you were mafia so therefore my case would have been empty and alot of holes in it so i was gonna see if you slipped on d2 but you didnt and when d3 came around i was gonna but NG came out and said you were town so i didnt pursue it

[drunkmonkey]

Monkey, you're up.

What's in this for me? Let's say I say "yes, clever is correct" or "no, clever is incorrect": How does confirming your Side A role help us out in Side B? You already know I was a Side A role cop, so my answer could have nothing to do with my Side B role. I don't see how this confirms me any more than correctly confirming your Side B role and exposing jonty's two killing roles.

Call me paranoid, but it looks like you're asking me to help town get its ducks in a row on Side A, and I don't want any part of it. Sort out the claims yourselves.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Monkey, you're up.

What's in this for me? Let's say I say "yes, clever is correct" or "no, clever is incorrect": How does confirming your Side A role help us out in Side B? You already know I was a Side A role cop, so my answer could have nothing to do with my Side B role. I don't see how this confirms me any more than correctly confirming your Side B role and exposing jonty's two killing roles.

Call me paranoid, but it looks like you're asking me to help town get its ducks in a row on Side A, and I don't want any part of it. Sort out the claims yourselves.

in it for you? well hmmm
assuming your town in side a if you get it right then you further clear me and rodion so that reduces the scum list significantly
so if you wanna win side a its probably in your best interest. but honestly if you dont give us your answer i dont give a damn. but there are six people left in side a and as of now

new guy
rodion
and me(cause i know im town) are cleared so we really dont need your input but it would help

and honestly i find you very scummy now because we talked about this for a few pages and your only defense against it was you didnt find it necessary ..well if it furthers your clearing as town how is not necessary? if you know it say it the only reason i could see you not saying it is if you dont know it or you got it wrong. i mean honestly why would you not clear yourself more it makes no sense

[drunkmonkey]

So, I should help you out, because you're beginning to consider me scummy in Side A? Tempting...

[Some7hingCLEVER]

So, I should help you out, because you're beginning to consider me scummy in Side A? Tempting...

no only considering you scummy cause you wont help out...why wouldnt you furthor clear yourself it just doesnt make sense

[drunkmonkey]

So, I should help you out, because you're beginning to consider me scummy in Side A? Tempting...

no only considering you scummy cause you wont help out...why wouldnt you furthor clear yourself it just doesnt make sense

I'd love to keep toying with this, but it will only serve to waste time on Side B. Check the Side A N2 summary again, and you'll see why I don't want to help out.

[new guy1]

Clever. DM was a mafia flavor cop on Side A man.

[Rodion]

Monkey, you're up.

What's in this for me? Let's say I say "yes, clever is correct" or "no, clever is incorrect": How does confirming your Side A role help us out in Side B? You already know I was a Side A role cop, so my answer could have nothing to do with my Side B role. I don't see how this confirms me any more than correctly confirming your Side B role and exposing jonty's two killing roles.

Call me paranoid, but it looks like you're asking me to help town get its ducks in a row on Side A, and I don't want any part of it. Sort out the claims yourselves.

The more proof you give, the less likely it is that you are bluffing or guessed right or things like that.

Role Side A, Rancher, Town Roleblocker.

N1 blocked VS.
D2 VS claimed a special "B Side" cop while Jonty gave me several vibrations that he was the one who shot me N1 A (I believe I mentioned I thought he was A's vig/SK), so N2 I blocked Jonty.

I decided to claim after Jonty confirmed what I wanted him to.

/ said, that the "pool" is all those who voted for me, throughout the day and I am roleblockable.

Well, I roleblocked him and Monkey's death still went through, so we can assume that either:
a) Jonty lied
b) Edoc/New Guy is a SK and targeted Monkey
c) cross-game shenanigans ("Jonty A blocked but Jonty B kills Monkey A due to Monkey A voting Jonty A" or other things like that)

[Rodion]

Monkey, you're up.

What's in this for me? Let's say I say "yes, clever is correct" or "no, clever is incorrect": How does confirming your Side A role help us out in Side B? You already know I was a Side A role cop, so my answer could have nothing to do with my Side B role. I don't see how this confirms me any more than correctly confirming your Side B role and exposing jonty's two killing roles.

Call me paranoid, but it looks like you're asking me to help town get its ducks in a row on Side A, and I don't want any part of it. Sort out the claims yourselves.

The more proof you give, the less likely it is that you are bluffing or guessed right or things like that.

And unlike Clever, I was talking about confirming your B role, in case that wasn't clear.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Clever. DM was a mafia flavor cop on Side A man.

ya...ummm ok i feel like an utter idiot..i looked at page one and it only said role cop lol wooops never mind you dont have to do anything...damn im gonna take a nap ...omg im an idiot

fastposted..
i was right..sweet

[Rodion]

Clever claimed Side A tracker while Milkshake originally claimed Side B survivor tracker.

Clever, can you tell us your N2-A action?

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Clever claimed Side A tracker while Milkshake originally claimed Side B survivor tracker.

Clever, can you tell us your N2-A action?

yes i tracked sg7 and he visited you rodion

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Vote Count

Jonty: 5 votes; drunkmonkey, Rodion, safariguy5 Some7hingCLEVER, shieldgenerator7

with 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch! Deadline Friday

[shieldgenerator7]

Clever claimed Side A tracker while Milkshake originally claimed Side B survivor tracker.

Clever, can you tell us your N2-A action?

yes i tracked sg7 and he visited you rodion

This is correct but it does not help clear him because I had already reported my night actions upon death in Side A.
But so far clever's claim is believable Especially since Rodion confirmed what clever claimed.

[Rodion]

What we know so far:

1.crazymilkshake5 - flipped town JOAT / claimed survivor tracker transformed into VT (bulletproof until the end of D4)
2.Rodion - claimed town roleblocker (N1 blocked VS, N2 blocked Jonty) / claimed town watcher (N1 nobody visited Edocsil, N2 nobody visited Safari)
3.shieldgenerator7 - flipped town bodyguard (N1 protected ???, N2 protected ???) / claimed town commuter (commuted N1)
4.pancakemix - flipped town busdriver (N1 swapped PCM A and Safari A/B) / ???
5.safariguy5 - claimed mafia doublevoter / claimed town doublevoter perhaps transformed into VT
6.Some7hingCLEVER - claimed town tracker (N1 Rodion visited VS, N2 Shield visited Rodion) / ???
7.new guy1 - ??? / claimed special cop masoned with VS A (N1 Rodion A innocent, N2 Safari A guilty)
8.drunkmonkey - flipped mafia cop / claimed town flavour cop (N1 Rodion "Watcher" and "refused to tell", N2 Jonty "killing role" and "killing role")
9.edocsil - ??? / ???
10.jonty125 - see for yourself: viewtopic.php?p=3682035#p3682035
11.Victor Sullivan - claimed special cop masoned with New Guy B (N1 roleblocked, N2 Rodion B innocent) / claimed town skitzo (N1 Rodion B 3rd-party, N2 roleblocked)
12.soundman - flipped town doctor (N1 protected Rodion) / ???