H.E. Mafia, Game Over, Town Prevails. [archive plox]

[chapcrap]

Didn't check in yesterday, but I just read up on the claim. unvote

That's a funny character for the mod to make a doc. It seems like CLEVER could be a an insance doc (which I've never seen in one of my games) or some other doc variation. I wonder if there is more to it that just straight doctor. If there were something more to his role, I would think that it would say with a claim like that. Since he hasn't said anything about it, makes more sense that someone else might be the SK Mr. Hyde.

[safariguy5]

Didn't check in yesterday, but I just read up on the claim. unvote

That's a funny character for the mod to make a doc. It seems like CLEVER could be a an insance doc (which I've never seen in one of my games) or some other doc variation. I wonder if there is more to it that just straight doctor. If there were something more to his role, I would think that it would say with a claim like that. Since he hasn't said anything about it, makes more sense that someone else might be the SK Mr. Hyde.

True chap, but often a mod will not tell a character if their role has some sort of sanity. For instance, insane cops often don't know they're insane (certain roleflavors may hint at it). Town Millers and bombs sometimes are told they're VT's (I used this in some of my games). So it's not a guarantee that clever knows if he's some sort of sanity doc, he could just be going off his role PM.

[MoB Deadly]

Oh yeah, other things have distracted me to the point where I forget that the obvious question hasn't been asked yet. SomethingClever, who did you target last nigt, also please explain whatever reasoning you had behind that choice of target.

Who did I target last night? What do u mean?

Uhhh....

Lol I thought you were trying to trick me into saying mafia

He is so adorable and innocent!

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Oh yeah, other things have distracted me to the point where I forget that the obvious question hasn't been asked yet. SomethingClever, who did you target last nigt, also please explain whatever reasoning you had behind that choice of target.

Who did I target last night? What do u mean?

Uhhh....

Lol I thought you were trying to trick me into saying mafia

He is so adorable and innocent!

Lol I think my gf hacked Mobs account

[strike wolf]

This game has gotten this song stuck in my head:



On a serious note. As I said. I know about as much as town does about Some7hing. He did not kill me last night but that's all I can really prove and fairly obviously due to the fact that I'm still alive . Insane doctor is possible. I don't really know anything extraordinary about the story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, just the basic plot (Jekyll creates potion designed to suppress the evil in his nature, the potion backfires and the evil (or anamalistic) Mr. Hyde is created resulting in a struggle to become the dominant personality (or something like that)). If someone knows better please let me know, the internet wasn't much help. I would otherwise have to agree having Dr. Jekyll in this game but not Mr. Hyde doesn't make much sense and it would make the most sense if they were the same character....In other words I don't know. we can't really risk lynching the doctor but something doesn't smell right about this claim.

[soundman]

I don't think there would be a second person who was Mr. Hyde. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde are the same person, he just separated his bad side from his good resulting in a war between those two sides. If I remember the story right (read it in high school) during the day his good side is dominate and as such keeps his real name Dr. Jekyll. But at night his bad side takes over and he calls himself Mr. Hyde. So it wouldn't make sense to me for them to be separate persons. I'm not sure what that means in this game though... My best guess is he is an Insane Doctor and he got lucky last night.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

I haven't been told about a Hyde in my pm
So im kinda as clueless as everyone
I wouldnt be surprised if I was a flip and not told about it
Or that there is an sk as Hyde so it's a secret to me as well
Either way I don't even know so I wouldn't be any help

[Some7hingCLEVER]

O wow I got fast posted by soundman

[chapcrap]

... I know about as much as town does about Some7hing. ...

Are you saying you're not town?

Odd slip from a usually thorough player.

[spiesr]

On a serious note. As I said. I know about as much as town does about Some7hing. He did not kill me last night but that's all I can really prove and fairly obviously due to the fact that I'm still alive.

So, can you confirm that you are not bullet-proof then? If so, I think we can more or less eliminate the possibility of him being a CPR doctor, as such a scenario would have required someone to have tried to kill you. And having (presumably) three killing players and CPR doc seems like a recipe for an insane bloodbath.

[new guy1]

... I know about as much as town does about Some7hing. ...

Are you saying you're not town?

Odd slip from a usually thorough player.

i believe what strikewolf meant to say was he/she was that they knew as much as THE REST of the town.

[new guy1]

... I know about as much as town does about Some7hing. ...

Are you saying you're not town?

Odd slip from a usually thorough player.

i believe what strikewolf meant to say was he/she knew as much as THE REST of the town.

EBWOP

[ghostly447]

I don't think there would be a second person who was Mr. Hyde. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde are the same person, he just separated his bad side from his good resulting in a war between those two sides. If I remember the story right (read it in high school) during the day his good side is dominate and as such keeps his real name Dr. Jekyll. But at night his bad side takes over and he calls himself Mr. Hyde. So it wouldn't make sense to me for them to be separate persons. I'm not sure what that means in this game though... My best guess is he is an Insane Doctor and he got lucky last night.

I still have Page 25 to read, but you just struck me with a very odd thought. If, in fact, his bad side takes over at night, could he not be somewhat of a poisoner? Such like a poisoner in that matter.

Therefore killing his victims a night or more after, so therefore being overall bad for the town? If this is in fact the case, then I would rather him not be around to poison another person tonight. So I will vote CLEVER because I never did. In my personal opinion, Jekyll is not a comfortable claim. I do not expect them to be split up in any way amongst 2 players, so therefore I can only see this claim being bad, even if it is a doctor claim.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Vote Count

MoB Deadly:
dazza2008:
Some7hingCLEVER: 2 (ghostly, jonty)
spiesr:
pancakemix:
jonty125:
Victor Sullivan:
new guy1:
chapcrap:
soundman:
ghostly447:
safariguy5:
strike wolf:
Doom Yoshi:
la galleta:
NL:

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

-Tails

[strike wolf]

What newguy said. It was simply meant to refer to the rest of town.

On a serious note. As I said. I know about as much as town does about Some7hing. He did not kill me last night but that's all I can really prove and fairly obviously due to the fact that I'm still alive.

So, can you confirm that you are not bullet-proof then? If so, I think we can more or less eliminate the possibility of him being a CPR doctor, as such a scenario would have required someone to have tried to kill you. And having (presumably) three killing players and CPR doc seems like a recipe for an insane bloodbath.

Sorry the "He did not kill me last night" was supposed to be a hint at not being bulletproof.

[chapcrap]

@ghostly

CLEVER is the only claimed doc. Usually if there is someone insane, as you propose CLEVER might be, there is also someone sane to counteract. There has been no counterclaim on a doctor. I don't think we should lynch him. I've done this to a doctor before and I immediately regretted it and town lost the game because of it.

Oddly enough, you quoted soundman and he was the mod in that game.

FASTPOSTED by strike.

[safariguy5]

@ghostly

CLEVER is the only claimed doc. Usually if there is someone insane, as you propose CLEVER might be, there is also someone sane to counteract. There has been no counterclaim on a doctor. I don't think we should lynch him. I've done this to a doctor before and I immediately regretted it and town lost the game because of it.

Oddly enough, you quoted soundman and he was the mod in that game.

FASTPOSTED by strike.

Yes, but with this many players, there could be more protective roles besides doctor. So theoretically, it is possible for there to be both a sane and insane doc, but there could also be some bodyguard or JOAT or jailkeeper out there as well.

[ghostly447]

@ghostly

CLEVER is the only claimed doc. Usually if there is someone insane, as you propose CLEVER might be, there is also someone sane to counteract. There has been no counterclaim on a doctor. I don't think we should lynch him. I've done this to a doctor before and I immediately regretted it and town lost the game because of it.

Oddly enough, you quoted soundman and he was the mod in that game.

FASTPOSTED by strike.

Yes, but with this many players, there could be more protective roles besides doctor. So theoretically, it is possible for there to be both a sane and insane doc, but there could also be some bodyguard or JOAT or jailkeeper out there as well.

What safari said. I feel that this claim may be fake, or he may be insane, or maybe he is an SK. The Jekyll claim does not sit right with me. Call me schizophrenic but I am seriously considering lynching an option. He adds too much fluff (I know he is new, but he has been in enough games to see at least to some extent how a game is played), He isnt all that active posting wise (I will let D1 slip, I dont even feel comfortable posting too much of value on D1 yet, but D2 was a bunch of fluff until he stood accused), and then this claim is just not one that I hold to be townie.

So for that, my vote remains.

[DoomYoshi]

It is a tricky claim. Since there is an overall consensus that he is probably insane or something similar, perhaps we could agree that he shouldn't protect anyone, for fear he might kill them? Dr. Jekyll does sit uneasily over my head, but I don't necessarily think this is the best idea either, unless we have actual proof that he is insane.

The only thing I don't like about lynching him based on the claim is that it would be a case of playing the mod, not the game. He has dropped loads of scumtells and we followed them up. This led to a claim. I am not sure there is much else we can do. Some players may just take longer to learn. However, I fully understand your point ghost.

I also noticed that jonty didn't unvote. Is this because you don't believe the claim jonty?

[chapcrap]

What safari said. I feel that this claim may be fake, or he may be insane, or maybe he is an SK. The Jekyll claim does not sit right with me. Call me schizophrenic but I am seriously considering lynching an option. He adds too much fluff (I know he is new, but he has been in enough games to see at least to some extent how a game is played), He isnt all that active posting wise (I will let D1 slip, I dont even feel comfortable posting too much of value on D1 yet, but D2 was a bunch of fluff until he stood accused), and then this claim is just not one that I hold to be townie.

So for that, my vote remains.

He's played enough games? I don't think I've played with him before. He doesn't act like he's played enough games.

[dazza2008]

What safari said. I feel that this claim may be fake, or he may be insane, or maybe he is an SK. The Jekyll claim does not sit right with me. Call me schizophrenic but I am seriously considering lynching an option. He adds too much fluff (I know he is new, but he has been in enough games to see at least to some extent how a game is played), He isnt all that active posting wise (I will let D1 slip, I dont even feel comfortable posting too much of value on D1 yet, but D2 was a bunch of fluff until he stood accused), and then this claim is just not one that I hold to be townie.

So for that, my vote remains.

He's played enough games? I don't think I've played with him before. He doesn't act like he's played enough games.

I agree. He is in 2 other games that I know of but none of them are finished or that far on.

[ghostly447]

What safari said. I feel that this claim may be fake, or he may be insane, or maybe he is an SK. The Jekyll claim does not sit right with me. Call me schizophrenic but I am seriously considering lynching an option. He adds too much fluff (I know he is new, but he has been in enough games to see at least to some extent how a game is played), He isnt all that active posting wise (I will let D1 slip, I dont even feel comfortable posting too much of value on D1 yet, but D2 was a bunch of fluff until he stood accused), and then this claim is just not one that I hold to be townie.

So for that, my vote remains.

He's played enough games? I don't think I've played with him before. He doesn't act like he's played enough games.

I agree. He is in 2 other games that I know of but none of them are finished or that far on.

He was up to, by my count, probably 6-7 games but ends up getting lynched because everyone here puts everything under a microscope (his words exactly). Whether those games have concluded or not was not what I was saying. Just saying, I know of several other games hes played with me.

[jonty125]

It is a tricky claim. Since there is an overall consensus that he is probably insane or something similar, perhaps we could agree that he shouldn't protect anyone, for fear he might kill them? Dr. Jekyll does sit uneasily over my head, but I don't necessarily think this is the best idea either, unless we have actual proof that he is insane.

The only thing I don't like about lynching him based on the claim is that it would be a case of playing the mod, not the game. He has dropped loads of scumtells and we followed them up. This led to a claim. I am not sure there is much else we can do. Some players may just take longer to learn. However, I fully understand your point ghost.

I also noticed that jonty didn't unvote. Is this because you don't believe the claim jonty?

I'm not sure what to think. He could be really anything with the name, SK, Insane Doc, CPR Doc. So I still have my suspicions if we want to test his claim tonight, he can target me.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

ok i put myself in alot of games thinking the more i am in the faster i will learn
and every game i am in has not past day two and many havent even started yet

[DoomYoshi]

ok i put myself in alot of games thinking the more i am in the faster i will learn
and every game i am in has not past day two and many havent even started yet

Make sure you don't overwhelm yourself either. Even most experienced players don't like to be in more than 4 or 5. Slightly off-topic, but where do we go from here?