South Park Mafia 2 Town Wins!

[drunkmonkey]

I think someone bussed your target w/ safari. You visited safari (Mrs Cartman recognizes Eric). That also would mean safari was roleblocked, and no one visited you, right?

[drunkmonkey]

EBWOP: I asked about LSU's flavor to get the "house looked too familiar" reference. I first thought it meant MoB visited someone in the Marsh family, but it may be because they hang out at Cartman's all the time?

[spiesr]

I think someone bussed your target w/ safari. You visited safari (Mrs Cartman recognizes Eric). That also would mean safari was roleblocked, and no one visited you, right?

That answer all the questions, as then Safariguy would have gone to visit Mob unimpeded and LSU would have seen him doing so.

[MoB Deadly]

I think someone bussed your target w/ safari. You visited safari (Mrs Cartman recognizes Eric). That also would mean safari was roleblocked, and no one visited you, right?

Ooo good idea, not safari though, I paraphrased to be safe. It said I recognized her.

[MoB Deadly]

I think someone bussed your target w/ safari. You visited safari (Mrs Cartman recognizes Eric). That also would mean safari was roleblocked, and no one visited you, right?

That answer all the questions, as then Safariguy would have gone to visit Mob unimpeded and LSU would have seen him doing so.

Yes I feel like there was either an error or someone is not telling the truth.

[blakebowling]

I will confirm that besides giving someone tracker instead of watcher information, there was no mistake made last night. I will remind everyone that each mod differs in what information they give out as a result.

[MoB Deadly]

Maybe there is a mafia roleblocker or something and they blocked Safari, that could be possible too. But LSU should of been told that the bus driver visited me right?

If LSU was blocked, I don't think his results would of been no one visited me that night.

[blakebowling]

Maybe there is a mafia roleblocker or something and they blocked Safari, that could be possible too. But LSU should of been told that the bus driver visited me right?

If LSU was blocked, I don't think his results would of been no one visited me that night.

I'll clarify again. If a watcher watches someone that is being busdriven, they will see the busdriver (unless some crazy circumstance occurs -- Don't go all WIFOM on me).

Also, if someone who is expecting a result gets roleblocked, I will tell them they are roleblocked.

[MoB Deadly]

Okay, give me a little while, but I will have this figured out.

[drunkmonkey]

I'm still not convinced you blocked yourself. Could have been one of the other boys' moms?

[MoB Deadly]

I'll clarify again. If a watcher watches someone that is being busdriven, they will see the busdriver (unless some crazy circumstance occurs -- Don't go all WIFOM on me).

Also, if someone who is expecting a result gets roleblocked, I will tell them they are roleblocked.

With this said:

LSU claims to of Watched me.
Safari claims to of protected me.

LSU should of been given Safari and bus driver as a result. He was not. He was not roleblocked because he would of been notified.

unless BOTH Safari AND the bus driver were both stopped for some unknown reason.

Or someone is lying?

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Okay maybe I wasn't bussed after all. I was surprised who i visited because maybe I didnt think another kids mom would want to have sex with me.

LSU watches me, Safari didnt successfully protect me. That seems like a much better option, right?

[spiesr]

LSU watches me, Safari didnt successfully protect me. That seems like a much better option, right?

At the moment LSU successfully watching you and Safariguy not visiting you do to either him lying or some outside force affecting his action seems like one of the more probable breakdown of events.

[skillfusniper33]

I think safari was stopped in some way since LSU hadn't noticed him come to protect Mob.

And with Mob getting good information about me, it means he wasn't bussed.

With the mafia not making a kill I am wondering if it might be some kind of ploy saying that they don't have one, in hopes that we relax a bit and make a simple mistake on either a protection or bus. I think it would be pretty weird to have one person be in charge of all the killing, and when they die, mafia can't kill overnight.

But after looking this is the second night that we haven't had a kill from anyone which is good.

[spiesr]

Since you are here Skillfusniper, I think that a name claim from you could help sort out a the mess regarding Mob's action. Would you care to provide? (Name only is all that I ask for at the moment.)

[MoB Deadly]

Okay I wanted to check with blake before I did this, but I verified I am allowed to copy paste my night results.

This is what I got last night:
The person you met last night surely wasn't what you were expecting. You recognized her.

Thats why I thought I was bussed.. hmm

[skillfusniper33]

Since you are here Skillfusniper, I think that a name claim from you could help sort out a the mess regarding Mob's action. Would you care to provide? (Name only is all that I ask for at the moment.)

I thought about providing that in the post above yours, but wasn't to sure if I wanted to.

My name is Sheila Broflovski

[zimmah]

safari is either lying or somehow blocked by mafia.

at least, that's the solutions i can think of right now. i can't think of any other scenario how all of those claims make sense.

LSU is an almost 100% guaranteed watcher, i don't have any reason to doubt him. (and if you read the last 3 pages carefully you will know why). LSU and MOB clear each other as well, so logic dictates MOB should be considered town as well.

if you take away safari's claim, and assume there was no busdriver targeting mob, (which should make sense because mob targeted a girl, and got a girly result, so we may assume it's the same girl) then there is no further contradiction as far as i can see.

therefore, it looks like safari is lying. even tho he flipped town on dead, it may be possible his revival triggered an alignment-change, he may be cult or 3rd party now and he may have way different abilities.

I'm also not sure why there was no kill for the last 2 nights. It seems like the CPR-doc has not taken any actions because there is no flavor indication any doc-saving or killing, so that would explain 1 less kill, however i'd assume mafia still has killing power, unless that 1 mafia was the only one able to actually kill, but then i would not know how mafia is supposed to win. unless mafia is not the real threat.

i'm not really sure what to make of N3 flavor, i mean, there was someone sneaking around, but it doesn't even seem like anyone even attempted a kill.

i think safari may be our best lead.

[safariguy5]

I definitely sent in my one-shot protection on MoB. That's all I can say. I was just revived with no alignment change.

There is one thing I can do to semi prove I'm still the JOAT. I still have my one-shot doublevoter ability. I can use it to prove I still have my JOAT abilities.

Sure, you could argue that cult recruitees still keep their powers, but at least let me show I have my powers still then decide.

Who would you like me to put my doublevote on?

[usAir]

How about sensfan or skillful sniper? They were the only two people not to vote for dazza.

[MoB Deadly]

How about sensfan or skillful sniper? They were the only two people not to vote for dazza.

That and skillful has been extreme submarining, we did attack sens on D2 so that is why I blocked skillful

[zimmah]

How about sensfan or skillful sniper? They were the only two people not to vote for dazza.

easily wifom. the scum could have voted just to distance themselfs.

[usAir]

zimmah--yes, however, MOB has a good point. Some of us have already found sensfan scummy, and skillful has been submarineing.

[skillfusniper33]

zimmah--yes, however, MOB has a good point. Some of us have already found sensfan scummy, and skillful has been submarineing.

There is no question about me submarineing, but if you look at my votes, I don't think I have cast a vote since Day 1. I was just starting to come back around for day 3 but everything moved so quickly that a chance to cast a vote was very slim.

I also know if I were mafia I probably would have put my vote on dazza to help me seem like town instead of me sitting without a vote, or voting for someone else.

[spiesr]

I also know if I were mafia I probably would have put my vote on dazza to help me seem like town instead of me sitting without a vote, or voting for someone else.

Are you suggesting that you not having voted for Dazza is evidence that implies you are town? This seems like pretty much BS reasoning to me. There was a three day and around 2 page window between when Mob claimed to have blocked Dazza and when he was lynched. You did not post at all in the gam during that period. So, are you now telling us that you were actually following along with the thread during that time and chose not to post anything? First off, I don't like hearing that at all. One thing in particular that aggrieves me is that for a significant part of that time we where more or less simply waiting to see if a busdriver would show up and verify Dazza's suggestion that he had been switched. If you were actually following along you really should have been obliged to make a post indicating that you were aware of the situation and had no intention of claiming to be such a busdriver. You are the only person who did not make a post during that period. (Sensfan's only post was actually after the hammer, but before the lynch was official.) If we the people dropping the hammer had been more careful like they should have, we would have essentially bee in a situation where we would have been waiting on you to stop submarining and actually make any sort of post confirming that you weren't a busdriver with critical information that would determine the day's lynch.
If you had simply been inactive that would have been one thing, but you claimed to have been submarining instead. In fact, the argument you just made hinges on the idea that you were around and aware of what was going on, and yet chose to make no action. So, either you were purposefully not posting and wasting everybody's time, or that post you just made is meaningless as the situation it describes (where if you were mafia you would have voted Dazza) never came up (since you weren't around to have a chance to make that vote).

[skillfusniper33]

Yes I am implying I am town, but via my recent activity, specifically day 3 I don't expect many people to buy that I am with the complete submariner I was

I am going to tell you exactly what you don't want to hear, and that I have been following the game, but didn't posted, and yes I know it is a my word vs your opinion. I know it wasn't very smart and didn't think of saying that I am not a bus driver, and by the lack of anyone posting so I would think that there isn't on in this game.

And yes I should have been obliged to make a post, but I had no new breakthroughs, and didn't want to make any kind of case that was based on a complete gut response and had no evidence to back it up.