ASoIaF Mafia Prologue (10/13) - D3: The Bloody Winter Rose

[nagerous]

It's not that I have the only info...I'm just the only one not being so tight with what I have. I also need some help making a decision. I would like to be with the lannisters in this war...but I don't know where they will stand in the end. I have a feeling we could tip the scales in this war...

They clearly won't be joining a side until the winner is obvious Or perhaps until they fear they will be killed before they join one, which I imagine would a loss for them. So unless you are actually threatening to kill them if they don't pick a side then you saying they "have to decide who to join tonight" is meaningless drivel.

More important right now is the question your alignment. With the fairly obvious Pro-Targaryen sentiments in your post I wonder why you haven't been thrown over the coals already. I suppose that nearly half of the people active sense then being Lannisters might have something to do with it. Presumably the rest are simply too afraid to be the first to make a move. Well enough of that Vote Nebuchadnezer and get this rebellion moving. The dice are cast let the game begin.

Thought the same vote Nebuchadnezer, hadn't made a move yet though Masket perhaps exposed some of my allegiances already.

He is probably the mad King himself.

[strike wolf]

What say ye Neb?

[Minister Masket]

To the other loyalists, now is the time to support your comrade. Losing the first battle could lose you the war.

Tywin's Guesses:
spiesr - Rebel / Stark
jonty - 3rd Party
Neb - Loyalist

nagerous - as said I had him down as a rebel but he's too smart to admit I exposed where his cards lie. I'm now re-thinking you as a trecherous Frey.

[The Weird One]

To the other loyalists, now is the time to support your comrade. Losing the first battle could lose you the war.

Tywin's Guesses:
spiesr - Rebel / Stark
jonty - 3rd Party
Neb - Loyalist

nagerous - as said I had him down as a rebel but he's too smart to admit I exposed where his cards lie. I'm now re-thinking you as a trecherous Frey.

You've made some glorious inferences with your colour choices, sir...

[kgb007]

i'd like to hear more from both MM/SW and neb before casting my vote

Neb's either talking out of his arse with that statement or foolishly trying to trick Strike and I into picking a side this early, when in fact, we have plenty of time to decide yet. Yes, I know that for a fact. Unsure if Strike got the same information at the start.

i doubt you'd really fully disclose what you meant but i found this post to be particularly interesting, do you even have to choose a side at all?

It's not that I have the only info...I'm just the only one not being so tight with what I have. I also need some help making a decision. I would like to be with the lannisters in this war...but I don't know where they will stand in the end. I have a feeling we could tip the scales in this war...

and to you neb, are you threatening the Lannisters' existence if you don't get their loyalty?

[strike wolf]

i'd like to hear more from both MM/SW and neb before casting my vote

Neb's either talking out of his arse with that statement or foolishly trying to trick Strike and I into picking a side this early, when in fact, we have plenty of time to decide yet. Yes, I know that for a fact. Unsure if Strike got the same information at the start.

i doubt you'd really fully disclose what you meant but i found this post to be particularly interesting, do you even have to choose a side at all?

Unless MM has more information than I do, my role led me to believe there was no definitive time limit.

It's not that I have the only info...I'm just the only one not being so tight with what I have. I also need some help making a decision. I would like to be with the lannisters in this war...but I don't know where they will stand in the end. I have a feeling we could tip the scales in this war...

and to you neb, are you threatening the Lannisters' existence if you don't get their loyalty?

No point remaining quiet if everyone else is commenting. Yes, that is my impression that he was threatening us. I have a few guesses as to how he thinks he may accomplish this but unless he has an unblockable kill I am not worried. The real question is, why bother us at all neb? do you really think we're that big of a threat that you must get us on your side? I'm honored really but a Lannister doesn't respond well to threats and thinking about it, killing third party doesn't get you anything. Waste a night trying to kill one of us and, succeed or fail, you'll lose both of us.

[Fircoal]

Well this sure is interesting. I guess we'll see a lot of what is going on coming soon.

I don't have too much to say on Neb really. I will say I'm very suspicious of the Lancasters though. I'd feel better if one of them died.

[kgb007]

Well this sure is interesting. I guess we'll see a lot of what is going on coming soon.

I don't have too much to say on Neb really. I will say I'm very suspicious of the Lancasters though. I'd feel better if one of them died.

Lannisters..LOL

[strike wolf]

Well this sure is interesting. I guess we'll see a lot of what is going on coming soon.

I don't have too much to say on Neb really. I will say I'm very suspicious of the Lancasters though. I'd feel better if one of them died.

Burt has never been trust worthy. We've never stopped anyone from investigating us and our flavor fits.

[Fircoal]

Well this sure is interesting. I guess we'll see a lot of what is going on coming soon.

I don't have too much to say on Neb really. I will say I'm very suspicious of the Lancasters though. I'd feel better if one of them died.

Lannisters..LOL

Fir doesn't know Game of Thrones or Speeling

[Nebuchadnezer]

I have no clue how you took my last post as a threat to the Lannisters. I thought I was being clear that I want to be with them. When I said ' we could tip the scales' I was referring to having all three of us join the same team...however, I have no idea which team they will join. I was pointing out the injury of Stannis as a clear weakness of the rebels, hoping to get a read on how that affects Ministers decision. With that said....I am Walder Frey...another third party. I also have to pick a side.

However. I will again state my wish to join with the Lannisters and their powerful roles. If all three of us pick the same side, we will decide this game.
There you go. You now have 3 third party roles out there.

[Foxglove]

I have no clue how you took my last post as a threat to the Lannisters. I thought I was being clear that I want to be with them.

Why do you have such a preference for the Lannisters over the Loyalists or the Rebels? Will you just follow whatever decision they happen to make?

[strike wolf]

I could see walder Frey being in this game but...why did you say that we have until tonight to pick a side and why are you anxious for us to pick one?

[Iron Butterfly]

It's not that I have the only info...I'm just the only one not being so tight with what I have. I also need some help making a decision. I would like to be with the lannisters in this war...but I don't know where they will stand in the end. I have a feeling we could tip the scales in this war...

Here is where something smells fishy.

If Neb is third party and wishes to join the lannister's why would it matter which side the lannister's join or where they stand?

[jonty125]

Tywin's Guesses:
spiesr - Rebel / Stark
jonty - 3rd Party
Neb - Loyalist

Oooh, what makes me third party?, and my vote stays on Neb, not enough beans have been spilled for my liking.

[Minister Masket]

i'd like to hear more from both MM/SW and neb before casting my vote

Neb's either talking out of his arse with that statement or foolishly trying to trick Strike and I into picking a side this early, when in fact, we have plenty of time to decide yet. Yes, I know that for a fact. Unsure if Strike got the same information at the start.

i doubt you'd really fully disclose what you meant but i found this post to be particularly interesting, do you even have to choose a side at all?

It's certainly within our best interests to choose a side. Just not necessarily now.

Tywin's Guesses:
spiesr - Rebel / Stark
jonty - 3rd Party
Neb - Loyalist

Oooh, what makes me third party?, and my vote stays on Neb, not enough beans have been spilled for my liking.

Just a guess. Felt like you joined the pressuring a wee bit too quick to be another rebel. ^^

However. I will again state my wish to join with the Lannisters and their powerful roles. If all three of us pick the same side, we will decide this game.

Now then, this is interesting. On the one hand, I'd be more than happy to welcome an ally to our ranks. On the other, you are Walder Frey. Red Wedding anyone?

Jaime? What say you?

[The Weird One]

It's not that I have the only info...I'm just the only one not being so tight with what I have. I also need some help making a decision. I would like to be with the lannisters in this war...but I don't know where they will stand in the end. I have a feeling we could tip the scales in this war...

Here is where something smells fishy.

If Neb is third party and wishes to join the lannister's why would it matter which side the lannister's join or where they stand?

Just speculation, here, but he could care which side they're wanting to join to know which direction to throw his weight. If he goes the wrong way, it could hurt his chances with the Lannisters. @Foxglove: [again, just speculation] he could favour the lannisters, presently because that way he can sit back and be indecisive over which side he's with, all while having that comforting feeling that he made a decision that's important...

[The Weird One]

Now then, this is interesting. On the one hand, I'd be more than happy to welcome an ally to our ranks. On the other, you are Walder Frey. Red Wedding anyone?

Jaime? What say you?

Just a point: Tywin Lannister orchestrated the Red Wedding. Walder Frey was just his patsy.

[Minister Masket]

Now then, this is interesting. On the one hand, I'd be more than happy to welcome an ally to our ranks. On the other, you are Walder Frey. Red Wedding anyone?

Jaime? What say you?

Just a point: Tywin Lannister orchestrated the Red Wedding. Walder Frey was just his patsy.

Heh, I meant more along the lines of Frey using the opportunity to switch sides, something I don't want him doing here.
At least Tywin is consistent.

[strike wolf]

Actually Walder Frey did organize the Red Wedding (Though I suspect Roose Bolton may have been the mastermind behind it all). He contacted Tywin Lannister to make sure he would have pardons and protection from the throne/Lannisters before he went through with it.

As far as Walder, the ASoIaF fan in me wants to gut him where he stands but the Lannister in me says that we have no reason to want him dead if he is who he claims. I still want to hear his answers to my question.

[Foxglove]

Actually Walder Frey did organize the Red Wedding (Though I suspect Roose Bolton may have been the mastermind behind it all). He contacted Tywin Lannister to make sure he would have pardons and protection from the throne/Lannisters before he went through with it.

As far as Walder, the ASoIaF fan in me wants to gut him where he stands

Yes, this!

but the Lannister in me says that we have no reason to want him dead if he is who he claims. I still want to hear his answers to my question.

Me too (about the answer to your question).

Who can trust Walder Frey? Apparently only the Lannisters, as he has clearly said that he wants to be in their camp.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Well, joining 'Lannister' is not an option. Also, I have a tighter time frame to make my decision than they do...so, yes, I want to make a good decision. My part in this has nothing to do with the red wedding...this is way before that incident. What other beans do I need to spill? I can't give you my win conditions.

Isn't anyone interested in finding out any information on who is on what side? Right now the loyalists have a leg up knowing who Stannis is...by virtue of wounding him.

[Iron Butterfly]

Well, joining 'Lannister' is not an option. Also, I have a tighter time frame to make my decision than they do...so, yes, I want to make a good decision. My part in this has nothing to do with the red wedding...this is way before that incident. What other beans do I need to spill? I can't give you my win conditions.

Isn't anyone interested in finding out any information on who is on what side? Right now the loyalists have a leg up knowing who Stannis is...by virtue of wounding him.

Vote Neb

Once again the issue of time.

I would like to know your role. I realize we are not allowed to say or quote our win condition but common sense seems to dictate that this neutral third party needs to join a side within a specific time frame. Why would anyone wish to let someone achieve their win condition?

i suspect the Lannisters were choose as a matter of convenience more then anything as they have their cards on the table.

[Minister Masket]

Looks like Neb has to decide before the day is out. That decision incidentally could have a big influence on who us Lannisters join. Think wisely Neb.

Am I the only one who's noticed Fircoal apparently has it in for Lannisters or me (Tywin) in particular? Pretty much every post of his has been aggressive towards me.

[strike wolf]

I've noticed it as much as Nag seems to have it in for me.

Ultimately, I would like to be your friend Neb but choosing tonight, I don't think is wise for us yet. Some of the loyalists may know who Stannis is but so might a doc on the Rebels side so that's not a huge advantage as of yet and the game is still very much up in the air.