Crazys Superhero Mafia! Game Over! Villains Win!

[skillfusniper33]

Well to start I really don't like TheCrown's claim, since mason normally comes with some other type of role aligned with it. Yes it is provable, but could also be faked very easily if he were mafia, by having one of his buddies show up and say they were masoned together. Also masons don't have to be of the same alignment to be put together. So he could be mafia, and have a mason who is town (yes this may seem a bit off, but very possible).

I also have a feeling that Betiko is softclaiming some kind of investigation role. But if you are a cop, JOAT, or some other investigation based role, you should have come out right from the start of the day with your new information. I also really didn't like you pushing TheCrown so far as to forcing a claim with just 1 person behind the push (that is partly TC's fault for claiming). We already have to many claims out their this early in the game.

I don't really like what Clever did with his random use of the silence, he should have PMed the mod for a better description of his abilities if he were confused. He probably wasn't able to do the day killing, but was someone else. But it was also very ballsy to use it on day 1, they should have waited until their was some kind of confirmation about some player, or a better gut feeling than going off of stuff from day 1.

I will need to think, and re-read some of this stuff to try and get a better understanding of waht is going on (it can get confusing going through over 3 pages of text at 1 time...)

Hopefully I will be around a little more once this week finishes up.

flawed logic there. did you pay attention to how day 2 started? You say something and it's oposite in the same paragraph.
Also I don't really care if you liked my action or not as I don't know your alignment. I know what I did is usefull info for later and a prejudice for scums.

Yes I know exactly how the day started, but if you have found scum in some way or another then you should share it right away, it makes for a quick day and easy day. It doesn't mean we couldn't still continue the conversation on why we had so many people visit SG7, but it would have helped eliminate scum. I have seen players get a guilty investigation, and not say anything in the next day, hoping they live through the night to make the kill themselves, to me that seems like a waste of an ability, and allow them protect others.

To me doing all that just seems wrong, but then again I might be missing something since I haven't had any role like that

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Some7hingCLEVER is now at L1

well i guess im gonna fully claim
im Maxwell Smart agent 86 town JOAT from get smart the movie
the power i used last night is im assuming "the cone of silence"
this is the only thing i can think of to say in my defense
guess this wont help since as soon as mafia sees this they will think of some witty reason to disguise the hammer o well lol gg

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Some7hingCLEVER is now at L1

well i guess im gonna fully claim
im Maxwell Smart agent 86 town JOAT from get smart the movie
the power i used last night is im assuming "the cone of silence"
this is the only thing i can think of to say in my defense
guess this wont help since as soon as mafia sees this they will think of some witty reason to disguise the hammer o well lol gg

EBWOP
i ABSOLUTELY love how im the one gonna be lynched while
1.) i havent been counterclaimed
2.) there are two tracker claims!! i mean seriously obviously one of them is lieng .and yet everyone still insists on me. oh well doesnt matter you will all see what i mean.

i think im going to bed hopefully i wake up alive.
if not gg all

[new guy1]

Some7hingCLEVER is now at L1

well i guess im gonna fully claim
im Maxwell Smart agent 86 town JOAT from get smart the movie
the power i used last night is im assuming "the cone of silence"
this is the only thing i can think of to say in my defense
guess this wont help since as soon as mafia sees this they will think of some witty reason to disguise the hammer o well lol gg

EBWOP
i ABSOLUTELY love how im the one gonna be lynched while
1.) i havent been counterclaimed
2.) there are two tracker claims!! i mean seriously obviously one of them is lieng .and yet everyone still insists on me. oh well doesnt matter you will all see what i mean.

i think im going to bed hopefully i wake up alive.
if not gg all

Well the thing is we are aiming at you because you claimed the silencer... definatly not town benifitial. I think I can speak for town when I say someone can hammer now.

[thehippo8]

Hi all ... arrived in the States. To my amazement there is internet but not to my room. Actually there is internet in the room but my laptop has gone bung. Trying to find out what is wrong so sending this from the Business Centre

Anyway, Betico is juring from the hip. Whatever dude!!

Leehar isn't much better. And no I'm not a useless go away for two weeks and ignore the game kinda person. I'm here, I'm up to date and I'm over your FOS!

Anyway, that sai ... back to the game.

@ / ... yes, we need to do some serial tracking and see where that leads us. I plan to track Betico because everyone seems to be pissed at him for the moment. You can track me and we'll post tomorrow.

As for clever, I can see no reason not to believe you for now. This has been the weirdest of days and I'd like to hear from the others. The purpose of getting you to L2 was to get your claim. You are now on L1 and that seems like a speedwagon disaster without a discussion to me.

ANyway, I'll see what tomorrow RT finds ans I'm tired and need some sleep.

[new guy1]

Hi all ... arrived in the States. To my amazement there is internet but not to my room. Actually there is internet in the room but my laptop has gone bung. Trying to find out what is wrong so sending this from the Business Centre

Anyway, Betico is juring from the hip. Whatever dude!!

Leehar isn't much better. And no I'm not a useless go away for two weeks and ignore the game kinda person. I'm here, I'm up to date and I'm over your FOS!

Anyway, that sai ... back to the game.

@ / ... yes, we need to do some serial tracking and see where that leads us. I plan to track Betico because everyone seems to be pissed at him for the moment. You can track me and we'll post tomorrow.

As for clever, I can see no reason not to believe you for now. This has been the weirdest of days and I'd like to hear from the others. The purpose of getting you to L2 was to get your claim. You are now on L1 and that seems like a speedwagon disaster without a discussion to me.

ANyway, I'll see what tomorrow RT finds ans I'm tired and need some sleep.

He claims that his JOAT has a silencing role. Why would a JOAT have a silencing mechanism. That doesnt sound very town like.

[thehippo8]

@ NG1 - snesible as always! I agree but too tired right now to conemplate that much further.

[new guy1]

@ NG1 - snesible as always! I agree but too tired right now to conemplate that much further.

I understand, and we are in no rush to lynch him, so go ahead and get some rest and come back with a fresh mind on it

[skillfusniper33]

I think before we would kill him off, we need to hear his other abilities. I would be very willing since I really don't think the silence is an ability for a JOAT, but I would like to see them before we accept the kill. And depending on how they line up it may fit.

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Some7hingCLEVER is now at L1

well i guess im gonna fully claim
im Maxwell Smart agent 86 town JOAT from get smart the movie
the power i used last night is im assuming "the cone of silence"
this is the only thing i can think of to say in my defense
guess this wont help since as soon as mafia sees this they will think of some witty reason to disguise the hammer o well lol gg

...Is that a superhero?

@ hippo, let me guess, tomorrow I'm supposed to prove my role by saying "you targeted betiko" right?
yeah, the only point of a tracker is to say something everyone doesn't already know, but at least we know who to off as your scumbuddy if you flip non-tracker mafia though.
TRACK ME TONIGHT, tell me who I targeted, then I'll say my result on them.

[betiko]

Well to start I really don't like TheCrown's claim, since mason normally comes with some other type of role aligned with it. Yes it is provable, but could also be faked very easily if he were mafia, by having one of his buddies show up and say they were masoned together. Also masons don't have to be of the same alignment to be put together. So he could be mafia, and have a mason who is town (yes this may seem a bit off, but very possible).

I also have a feeling that Betiko is softclaiming some kind of investigation role. But if you are a cop, JOAT, or some other investigation based role, you should have come out right from the start of the day with your new information. I also really didn't like you pushing TheCrown so far as to forcing a claim with just 1 person behind the push (that is partly TC's fault for claiming). We already have to many claims out their this early in the game.

I don't really like what Clever did with his random use of the silence, he should have PMed the mod for a better description of his abilities if he were confused. He probably wasn't able to do the day killing, but was someone else. But it was also very ballsy to use it on day 1, they should have waited until their was some kind of confirmation about some player, or a better gut feeling than going off of stuff from day 1.

I will need to think, and re-read some of this stuff to try and get a better understanding of waht is going on (it can get confusing going through over 3 pages of text at 1 time...)

Hopefully I will be around a little more once this week finishes up.

flawed logic there. did you pay attention to how day 2 started? You say something and it's oposite in the same paragraph.
Also I don't really care if you liked my action or not as I don't know your alignment. I know what I did is usefull info for later and a prejudice for scums.

Yes I know exactly how the day started, but if you have found scum in some way or another then you should share it right away, it makes for a quick day and easy day. It doesn't mean we couldn't still continue the conversation on why we had so many people visit SG7, but it would have helped eliminate scum. I have seen players get a guilty investigation, and not say anything in the next day, hoping they live through the night to make the kill themselves, to me that seems like a waste of an ability, and allow them protect others.

To me doing all that just seems wrong, but then again I might be missing something since I haven't had any role like that

given that I called out the crown from my first post, what you are saying still makes no sense. And you are still jumping from "you should've told from the start" and "there are too many claimed power roles out there". Are you just trying to get more info from me and my role?
You seem to over estimate my powers.

Even though, with the trouble caused to scums with all I said I might be their night target, or NG1. therefore, I don't like too much the hippo tracking me and / tracking the hippo.
If I get killed nothing will be proven.
The other idea would be to have both trackers on me but then who do we make talk first? no good.

other idea, NG1 watches me for protection and both trackers watch NG1. no town with a night role get any close to NG1, so the tracker can tell us if a scum tried something on him. Same for me, no one else from town but NG1 gets close to me.
If one of both trackers is night killed, most likely the other one is scum.
So would we be lucky enough to have clever + crown + a tracker as our scum trio? would be quite lucky, only crown is a sure thing, and to be honest I don't know what to think about clever, but it seems unlikely that he's telling the truth. He might just be a third party..

[betiko]

by the way.. I think that clever's name claim and device do fit, after looking at wikipedia. would he really come up with something like this?
given the comical nature of the character and his useless devices in the show, maybe clever only has stuff like that.
He might be a JOAT with only crazy stuff. I don't really see how this character could possibly be scum though..

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[jgordon1111]

by the way.. I think that clever's name claim and device do fit, after looking at wikipedia. would he really come up with something like this?
given the comical nature of the character and his useless devices in the show, maybe clever only has stuff like that.
He might be a JOAT with only crazy stuff. I don't really see how this character could possibly be scum though..

UNVOTE

Heroes but not Super heroes,got it

Going with betiko here for the above reason and the fact that ghost had already posted why clever wasnt posting in the vacation forum on tuesday. I wanted his role, he gave it up and doesnt really seem scummy to me.

Clever dont use it without reason,and we still need your other powers,depending on that I will remove my vote or not.

[new guy1]

by the way.. I think that clever's name claim and device do fit, after looking at wikipedia. would he really come up with something like this?
given the comical nature of the character and his useless devices in the show, maybe clever only has stuff like that.
He might be a JOAT with only crazy stuff. I don't really see how this character could possibly be scum though..

UNVOTE

Betiko, I seem to have lost the reason in the sands of time... WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK CROWN IS SCUM? And holy crap peope, Clever's role is not a superhero, it is a hero! Crazys Superhero Mafia! What the hell do you people think this means?

[betiko]

by the way.. I think that clever's name claim and device do fit, after looking at wikipedia. would he really come up with something like this?
given the comical nature of the character and his useless devices in the show, maybe clever only has stuff like that.
He might be a JOAT with only crazy stuff. I don't really see how this character could possibly be scum though..

UNVOTE

Betiko, I seem to have lost the reason in the sands of time... WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK CROWN IS SCUM? And holy crap peope, Clever's role is not a superhero, it is a hero! Crazys Superhero Mafia! What the hell do you people think this means?

It seems like you don't read between the lines here. To make it crearer, I don't think, I know. and you are confusing me here, as you seem to be the one defending him the most and you are the one I tend to trust the most.
I don't see how you could possibly be scum as you said that you saw /, clever and hippo were around SG7 last night, and NOT ONE has denied it. Can you possibly be watcher and town mason with the crown?

Also you don't seem to give a bit of credit for clever's theory.

so the deadline being friday, and SG7 being at L-2, i strongly suggest you to claim my friend! days are very short and we need something!!!
I don't know if I would trust a player with no alignment.

also little question to crazy; is this dc, marvel, both or even superheroes from other stuff?

its all of the superheroes, some may not even be a "superhero" but a hero nonetheless

Crazy said is was not only super heroes; did you forget this part???
I don't like to see you protecting the crown that much and be so sure about clever's case.
A town masoned with a scum still wins if town wins right?

[new guy1]

I did forget about crazy's post... still dont like the fact that a TOWN JOAT would have a silencing ability... and I did not confirm that I am masoned with crown... I just believe there is no case on him whatsoever and you are sidetracking any good cases with "well he could be scum, BUT CROWN DEFINATLY IS.

[jgordon1111]

by the way.. I think that clever's name claim and device do fit, after looking at wikipedia. would he really come up with something like this?
given the comical nature of the character and his useless devices in the show, maybe clever only has stuff like that.
He might be a JOAT with only crazy stuff. I don't really see how this character could possibly be scum though..

UNVOTE

Betiko, I seem to have lost the reason in the sands of time... WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK CROWN IS SCUM? And holy crap peope, Clever's role is not a superhero, it is a hero! Crazys Superhero Mafia! What the hell do you people think this means?

It seems like you don't read between the lines here. To make it crearer, I don't think, I know. and you are confusing me here, as you seem to be the one defending him the most and you are the one I tend to trust the most.
I don't see how you could possibly be scum as you said that you saw /, clever and hippo were around SG7 last night, and NOT ONE has denied it. Can you possibly be watcher and town mason with the crown?

Also you don't seem to give a bit of credit for clever's theory.

so the deadline being friday, and SG7 being at L-2, i strongly suggest you to claim my friend! days are very short and we need something!!!
I don't know if I would trust a player with no alignment.

also little question to crazy; is this dc, marvel, both or even superheroes from other stuff?

its all of the superheroes, some may not even be a "superhero" but a hero nonetheless

Crazy said is was not only super heroes; did you forget this part???
I don't like to see you protecting the crown that much and be so sure about clever's case.
A town masoned with a scum still wins if town wins right?

To me it doesnt seem like NG1 is protecting crown so much as making sure clever gets lynched,

NG1 your logic here seems flawed with everyone watching SG7 N1 you did as well that makes sense.

But then you start going sideways for some reason. Clever has a reason for not participating as he should have,you go to school with him in real life and know him,your twin post's in the vacation forum on tue about clever being out,But because he hadnt participated you targeted him,that was what you said at the time I looked.

So I agree his soft claim and reasoning wasnt sound,now with the character he is claiming it looks better,but I still want to know the other powers.

Last you go off the wall about him not being a super hero this is the one that gets me,Yet you are okay with SG7 not being a superhero. This is a serious flaw in what you are doing.

You pushing for a lynch on clever for the reason you havent went near SG7.

What do you know about them the rest of us dont.

I cant see you letting SG7 off the hook with him not knowing his aligment or his powers and Taking out clever who seems to know what his are but doesnt think about what he is doing.

And before you start screaming I am defending Clever I am not I am still waiting to hear the rest of what he says before I start working on his lynch myself. And I am still not trying to (frame SG7) If anyone buys I dont know my alignment or powers please explain it to me I have missed it.

Until then my vote is still with clever for the rest of what he can do. Still iffy to me.

[jgordon1111]

I did forget about crazy's post... still dont like the fact that a TOWN JOAT would have a silencing ability... and I did not confirm that I am masoned with crown... I just believe there is no case on him whatsoever and you are sidetracking any good cases with "well he could be scum, BUT CROWN DEFINATLY IS.

LOL was this a subconcious mental slip NG1. Just asking beings you didnt confirm mason with him,and then say he isnt,then say he definetly is. Whats going on NG1?

Let the rest of us know.

[Leehar]

FoS Clever.

First you say you don't even know if you're a joat role, and then you claim with a role name that has 'Town Joat' literally written on it??
In my estimation can't get more scummy then that?

(I'm not voting because I'm curious if anybody remembers something similar, I haven't actually looked back, but I'm pretty confident that he just mentioned he was silencer with some other things before ng mentioned Joat and Clever waffled about not being sure thats what he was...)
So thats really a huge concern popping up from me, but my clever scum suspicions are somewhat mitigated because I think he only responded to the prod after the day-kill?

[new guy1]

First off, I do know clever. He also told me something he shouldnt have that conflicts with why he wasnt here (not his role, his reasoning for not being here). I will not post that information as it could screw the game over and I would rather be replaced then do that. SG7 is obviously a superhero. His character kills with a touch as opposed to CLEVER inventing things to make him seem superhuman. Therefore, SG7 IS a superhero. Im defending him because he was silenced and cant defend himself. Maybe since he wont be silenced tomorrow he will tell us more, but why pressure a guy who will get lynched because he only has two posts and cant defend himself after that. Let him have a night and defend himself tomorrow.
And next, this was not a subconcious slip as I said I did not confirm it, and that I dont see why betiko keeps pressuring him with no case. I believe its sidetracking the game because he wants Crown lynched. I will scream that you are defending clever, as clever said himself that he doesnt know how else to prove his innocence while he lets you defend him and wont give us his other roles.

Fastposted- Agreed with your first part, and I think that he should be lynched...

[new guy1]

On a side note, the information was not about the game in general, it was just about his weekend and he let something slip NOT ABOUT THE GAME, just about his time on the game. NOTHING IMPORTANT WAS TOLD and I did not base my case on anyof it, if anything I strengthened his case.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

FoS Clever.

First you say you don't even know if you're a joat role, and then you claim with a role name that has 'Town Joat' literally written on it??
In my estimation can't get more scummy then that?

(I'm not voting because I'm curious if anybody remembers something similar, I haven't actually looked back, but I'm pretty confident that he just mentioned he was silencer with some other things before ng mentioned Joat and Clever waffled about not being sure thats what he was...)
So thats really a huge concern popping up from me, but my clever scum suspicions are somewhat mitigated because I think he only responded to the prod after the day-kill?

uh i think you misunderstood what i was saying i was joking when i said "JOAT who said anything about that " thats why i put a wierd smiley face next to it. sorry if you didnt get the joke

ya sorry i was busy (in vacation thread) but when i responded i had just realized there was a day kill. and as i had already said i had no part in that and am still baffled on how that happened. lol

[Some7hingCLEVER]

On a side note, the information was not about the game in general, it was just about his weekend and he let something slip NOT ABOUT THE GAME, just about his time on the game. NOTHING IMPORTANT WAS TOLD and I did not base my case on anyof it, if anything I strengthened his case.

??? ok good i read the post before this and got scared lol i hadnt thought i had given you any info about the game just about my weekend. i think i posted it into the vacation thread though?

[new guy1]

It conflicts it a little though. Nothing major though.

[betiko]

First off, I do know clever. He also told me something he shouldnt have that conflicts with why he wasnt here (not his role, his reasoning for not being here). I will not post that information as it could screw the game over and I would rather be replaced then do that. SG7 is obviously a superhero. His character kills with a touch as opposed to CLEVER inventing things to make him seem superhuman. Therefore, SG7 IS a superhero. Im defending him because he was silenced and cant defend himself. Maybe since he wont be silenced tomorrow he will tell us more, but why pressure a guy who will get lynched because he only has two posts and cant defend himself after that. Let him have a night and defend himself tomorrow.
And next, this was not a subconcious slip as I said I did not confirm it, and that I dont see why betiko keeps pressuring him with no case. I believe its sidetracking the game because he wants Crown lynched. I will scream that you are defending clever, as clever said himself that he doesnt know how else to prove his innocence while he lets you defend him and wont give us his other roles.

Fastposted- Agreed with your first part, and I think that he should be lynched...

-Either you say what you have to say either you don't even bring it up please. You know something about clever from real life, can't tell what it is exactly so we should just take it for granted?
-in what way is there no case on the crown, are you blind? either you don't believe me, which is fine, either you do; but in both scenarios I've put my ass on the line and I have guaranteed he is scum because i have intel. It's me or him. Might be a case you don't like, but there is one.
-how could you confirm you are masoned with the crown??? I just said that it was a possibility and I brought it up for the 1st time. You answer that you never confirmed it was true?? sounds like you are half saying it is as you don't deny it.