The SquirrelMasters' Quest (25/25) Night 1~A quick getaway

[zimmah]

that being said i can count 20 total votes (including 1 surrender) in the last votecount. I'm not going into detail right now, but it is noted. Some people have just been lurking in the dark, not being voting, and trying to lay low, and others, perhaps even more scummy, have voted, but only voted on a completely random person and by spreading those jokevotes (and unwilling to chance them) they are effectively not helping, which is basically the same as a disguised surrender.

spiesr, rodion, mob, usAir, SG7, and tailgunner apperantly never voted. (sensfan is counted twice in the last votecount btw)
some big names in there too, i don't expect those to be surrendering.

That's odd, I am pretty sure that I attacked someone during the joke-vote phase and I don't recall ever unvoting.
Anyway, I am not entirely sure what exactly you want here. You criticize both those for haven't voted and those who have their votes somewhere other than the main case. Now, in my opinion these actions can't really be described as encouraging surrender unless the deadline is closing in on us. Not everyone will or even can have their vote on the big case(s).
In the case of myself, for most of the day I have been largely unconvinced of a link between the General's actions and his alignment. Right now I will wait to see whatever he comes up with for a last defense before I decide if I want to hammer him or something. Moving him from 10 to 11 votes won't really do much of importance at this exact point in time, so I will wait and see on that front. Its not like I have been scummarining through the day or anything, I have been out there discussing cases and everything, so I don't see why you feel the need to call me out for surrendering when I don't think I have done anything to that effect.

ok you must have misinterpret my statement.

what i meant is that, although some people voted, their vote may be just a distraction, i never said everyone who did not vote the general, is scum. i'm not that stupid, i'm just saying that people who refuse to add pressure on good leads are basicly the same as the ones that don't vote at all. i'm not saying "vote for whoever i vote for or you're scum".

[zimmah]

Anyhow I would hazard a guess that most of the possible player character roles had more than one trait associated with them.

in my ears that sounds like you have seen the list of possible player roles, which would mean you'd be one of the 4, because if i remember correctly those 4 were allowed to pick their role from a list.

I think you may onto something.

Grapple spiesr.

by DoomYoshi on Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:14 pm

You should not vote spiesr. He knows a lot about the setup in general. I am pretty sure he is town.

by DoomYoshi on Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:19 pm

??? wtf

[chapcrap]

Anyhow I would hazard a guess that most of the possible player character roles had more than one trait associated with them.

in my ears that sounds like you have seen the list of possible player roles, which would mean you'd be one of the 4, because if i remember correctly those 4 were allowed to pick their role from a list.

I think you may onto something.

Grapple spiesr.

by DoomYoshi on Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:14 pm

You should not vote spiesr. He knows a lot about the setup in general. I am pretty sure he is town.

by DoomYoshi on Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:19 pm

??? wtf

Good catch. WTF indeed.

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The mod has indicated this game has no need for an "Unattack" feature

All 'votes' must be in this form: Attack Mr. Squirrel. Don't worry about unvotes. If you wish to 'vote no lynch' then you may use: Surrender

I'm not sure weather or not it means there is not one, so a confirmation would be nice...er Delightfuly Evil, but otherwise stay careful about that.

that being said i can count 20 total votes (including 1 surrender) in the last votecount. I'm not going into detail right now, but it is noted. Some people have just been lurking in the dark, not being voting, and trying to lay low, and others, perhaps even more scummy, have voted, but only voted on a completely random person and by spreading those jokevotes (and unwilling to chance them) they are effectively not helping, which is basically the same as a disguised surrender
some big names in there too, i don't expect those to be surrendering.

The above partially a reason for one to stay on a joke vote day one, it's different on every other day since there is more real evidence to compare, but if everyone who has voted currently decided to go with their most viable lead (or second most viable lead etc. as the pressure lines up to avoid a mislynch) it would split the vote in a way that would let cases slip through the cracks, as there would be other spotlights to point to.
Also more importantly it's only been Four days.

That said, General should claim as soon as possible, the pressure can only go up from this point, if you want to prove you are a truly evil malefactor the logical thing to do is screw over the good guys by not allowing us to mislynch, and giving us the maximum amount of time to decide on this and other cases.

[pancakemix]

Geez, that went fast. I'm working on catching up, but I started Skyrim so that's not helping. Regardless, I believe a vote count is in order, dearest mod.

The mod has indicated this game has no need for an "Unattack" feature

All 'votes' must be in this form: Attack Mr. Squirrel. Don't worry about unvotes. If you wish to 'vote no lynch' then you may use: Surrender

I'm not sure weather or not it means there is not one, so a confirmation would be nice...er Delightfuly Evil, but otherwise stay careful about that.

I think that just mean's he's not being anal about unvotes.

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Current Battlefield Rundown:

Rodion (1) - Haggis_Mcmutton
drunkmonkey (1) - sensfan,
Victor (3) - sensfan, PCM, edocsil,
Trinicardinal (2) - /, drake
doomyoshi (1) - soundman
spiesr (2) - jonty, ghostly
thegeneral (9) - safariguy, doomyoshi, victor sullivan, thehippo, trinicardinal, iliad, chapcrap, drunkmonkey, zimmah
Surrender has been declared by 1: general2112

It takes 13 to kill.
Deadline tentatively set for a week from today

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[Mr. Squirrel]

The mod has indicated this game has no need for an "Unattack" feature

All 'votes' must be in this form: Attack Mr. Squirrel. Don't worry about unvotes. If you wish to 'vote no lynch' then you may use: Surrender

I'm not sure weather or not it means there is not one, so a confirmation would be nice...er Delightfuly Evil, but otherwise stay careful about that.

I think that just mean's he's not being anal about unvotes.

What he said^

Regardless, I believe a vote count is in order, dearest mod.

2 vote counts in 1 day!? Geez, you guys are needy

Current Battlefield Rundown:

Rodion (1) - Haggis_Mcmutton
drunkmonkey (1) - sensfan,
Victor (3) - PCM, edocsil, spiesr
Trinicardinal (1) - /,
doomyoshi (1) - soundman
spiesr (1) - jonty,
thegeneral (10) - safariguy, doomyoshi, victor sullivan, thehippo, trinicardinal, iliad, chapcrap, drunkmonkey, zimmah, drake
Surrender has been declared by 1: general2112

It takes 13 to kill.
Deadline in 1 week

Sorry, I don't know why my vote counts have been so bad. Might be cuz I'm sick. Either way, there you go^ Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Victor Sullivan]

I've been busy up the broohaha today. I'll post something of substance tomorrow

Sorry! Er, I mean, uh, suck it up, cupcake!

Grawr?

-Sully

[pancakemix]

2 vote counts in 1 day!? Geez, you guys are needy

I didn't get that far yet. Like I said, I'm trying to catch up here.

Anyway, General, you're in a dangerous spot here. Claiming is advised.

[chapcrap]

I've been busy up the broohaha today. I'll post something of substance tomorrow

Sorry! Er, I mean, uh, suck it up, cupcake!

Grawr?

-Sully

It's so hard to decipher the meaning of Sully's posts.

[zimmah]

I've been busy up the broohaha today. I'll post something of substance tomorrow

Sorry! Er, I mean, uh, suck it up, cupcake!

Grawr?

-Sully

It's so hard to decipher the meaning of Sully's posts.

he's giving quite a scummy feel to me, but with sully, you never know, he has very weird vibes all over him in most of the games, he's a weird person.

[TheGeneral2112]

Wow, so you are making your doctor claim on D1. Congrats, failtown, ya' did good! See where your strategies led you? Yet me, laying low is not an acceptable strategy. Great job...

[MoB Deadly]

Without violating rules of PM quoting and things, can you provide any more information besides just "doctor" or is that it?

[chapcrap]

Wow, so you are making your doctor claim on D1. Congrats, failtown, ya' did good! See where your strategies led you? Yet me, laying low is not an acceptable strategy. Great job...

Doctor claim, huh?

Retreat until further notice.

[TheGeneral2112]

Without violating rules of PM quoting and things, can you provide any more information besides just "doctor" or is that it?

Do I need to provide any more information? Hasn't failtown embarrassed themselves enough? Now I am stuck protecting myself since I have outed. So any other power role that outs, sorry! You are just screwed.

[MoB Deadly]

Without violating rules of PM quoting and things, can you provide any more information besides just "doctor" or is that it?

Do I need to provide any more information? Hasn't failtown embarrassed themselves enough? Now I am stuck protecting myself since I have outed. So any other power role that outs, sorry! You are just screwed.

So you have the ability to protect yourself?

[TheGeneral2112]

Without violating rules of PM quoting and things, can you provide any more information besides just "doctor" or is that it?

Do I need to provide any more information? Hasn't failtown embarrassed themselves enough? Now I am stuck protecting myself since I have outed. So any other power role that outs, sorry! You are just screwed.

So you have the ability to protect yourself?

I didn't think that post was confusing, was it? You seem to be drawing more attention than necessary to the fact that I softclaimed.

[chapcrap]

Without violating rules of PM quoting and things, can you provide any more information besides just "doctor" or is that it?

Do I need to provide any more information? Hasn't failtown embarrassed themselves enough? Now I am stuck protecting myself since I have outed. So any other power role that outs, sorry! You are just screwed.

First of all, don't be a crazy, doctors can almost never protect themselves. They need other doctors, duh!!

Second, having a doc claim in a game this large actually isn't so bad. I'm sure the town has multiples roles that can help us out. IE, watcher, body guard, busdriver, etc. So, it is not the end of the world. And you should be protecting someone else, not yourself.

[pancakemix]

Having read up, my thoughts:

1. The General is acting crazy. Maybe a bit too crazy. It's a bit late to throw my attack there, but more likely than not I would. I recommend proceeding with caution.

2. I'm not seeing the saf/spiesr case. Maybe there's something there, but I don't see it. I think the speculation is pretty understandable and I also recall reading a few of the things saf pointed out. Not saying they couldn't be scum, but everyone's on even ground as it stands (save the General, of course).

I've been busy up the broohaha today. I'll post something of substance tomorrow

Sorry! Er, I mean, uh, suck it up, cupcake!

Grawr?

-Sully

It's so hard to decipher the meaning of Sully's posts.

he's giving quite a scummy feel to me, but with sully, you never know, he has very weird vibes all over him in most of the games, he's a weird person.

He's a generally scummy player. He often ends up claiming early because of it.

ABP: General has claimed. Interesting. General, surely you're a creature of some sort, right? I find it hard to believe that you're simply "doctor".

[pancakemix]

ABP = Addition Before Post

[TheGeneral2112]

First of all, don't be a crazy, doctors can almost never protect themselves. They need other doctors, duh!!

You would think that would be the case with a game of this size. Not true here to my knowledge. I was not told about any others and it was not specified that I cannot target myself.

[chapcrap]

First of all, don't be a crazy, doctors can almost never protect themselves. They need other doctors, duh!!

You would think that would be the case with a game of this size. Not true here to my knowledge. I was not told about any others and it was not specified that I cannot target myself.

Well, I would ask the mod then, because usually the docs can not protect themselves.

[MoB Deadly]

Well first, I was asking for more details, because I am trying to get an idea if I actually believe you or not. In a 25 player game there are probably more than 1 healing role. I am trying to see if there is anything different about you than possibly another type of doctor. (I am just speculating, this is probably the biggest game I have ever participated in).

Also, it's not terrible that you had to claim this early, so stop insulting us. You put yourself in this position, no one else. I am sure there are other roles that can catch a killer if they "attack" you tonight.

Fastposted multiple times, havent read.

[zimmah]

either way someone needs to watch the general tonight. if he does get killed, at least we know who did it.

i think general should protect someone else, there will probably be somoene protecting general anyway, i don't think a big game like this only has 1 doctor.

Also general, as a doctor you shouldn't draw so much attention towards you.

[safariguy5]

Well first, I was asking for more details, because I am trying to get an idea if I actually believe you or not. In a 25 player game there are probably more than 1 healing role. I am trying to see if there is anything different about you than possibly another type of doctor. (I am just speculating, this is probably the biggest game I have ever participated in).

Also, it's not terrible that you had to claim this early, so stop insulting us. You put yourself in this position, no one else. I am sure there are other roles that can catch a killer if they "attack" you tonight.

Fastposted multiple times, havent read.

If you go back and read the links I posted, the VIP for town has several safeguards to assure that he is not killed too early. A doctor by himself probably doesn't really upset the balance too much.

Besides, that's not a full roleclaim, what creature are you General. Also, flaming the rest of us doesn't earn you many sympathy points. Also, assuming you are a mafia veteran, why would you deliberately play a doctor role like that? I may be able to understand if you're a cop, but dropping scumtells like that as doc is highly detrimental to town (Firefly Mafia).

I'm thinking one of two things here besides the possibility that he seriously misplayed doctor.

1. He's scum and fakeclaiming doctor to try and get a counterclaim.

2. He's jester and trying to get lynched.

Either way, given the game mechanics (which theGeneral seems not to have read) and the fact that he's basically stating that he's going to be dead weight from now on AND the fact that his attitude is really terrible this game, I really see a minimal loss in a lynch.

Yeah sure, we may be losing a doctor, but he's not our VIP, and he's not willing to use his powers to benefit town. And he adds almost nothing to discussion while making it very unpleasant to talk to him.

FASTPOSTED by zimmah.

Watching the doc is a WIFOM in terms of who is going to visit him. I could easily see a cop also visiting him to check alignment, setting up all kinds of trouble.