Play the Mod Mafia, EndGame! Don't Play The Mod

[new guy1]

I dont like mass claims as they ruin the fun of trying to find the antagonist figures yourself, so I am against it. If you think thats scummy find me a replacement cause I dont want to play a game of mass claim over real quick.

[safariguy5]

I dont like mass claims as they ruin the fun of trying to find the antagonist figures yourself, so I am against it. If you think thats scummy find me a replacement cause I dont want to play a game of mass claim over real quick.

Yes, I would agree if this were a normal game, but quirky mechanics may mean we have to play nonstandard. Just look at rolegift mafia, everyone started claiming who they sent gifts to every night.

I have no problem with claiming my role now, just as I had no problem with claiming it on Day 1 seeing as how we only need to lynch the right person once.

[jgordon1111]

I dont like mass claims as they ruin the fun of trying to find the antagonist figures yourself, so I am against it. If you think thats scummy find me a replacement cause I dont want to play a game of mass claim over real quick.

Yes, I would agree if this were a normal game, but quirky mechanics may mean we have to play nonstandard. Just look at rolegift mafia, everyone started claiming who they sent gifts to every night.

I have no problem with claiming my role now, just as I had no problem with claiming it on Day 1 seeing as how we only need to lynch the right person once.

lets take a vote on it then MLP

[new guy1]

I would vote yes if I was looking to win, but I dont want to ruin the fun of the game. But I will if it is the wish of the majority.

[shieldgenerator7]

I would vote yes if I was looking to win, but I dont want to ruin the fun of the game. But I will if it is the wish of the majority.

i agree with you dude. Massclaim would mke this game unfun.

[safariguy5]

I would vote yes if I was looking to win, but I dont want to ruin the fun of the game. But I will if it is the wish of the majority.

i agree with you dude. Massclaim would mke this game unfun.

So now we have the crossroads between wanting to win and wanting the game to be fun.

On one hand, I can see Rodion's rationale for the harsh punishments because he wants to win.

But if we're going to reject that, I still think that we can win with a more reasonable approach. Not to say that massclaiming guarantees a win in most instances, but it's a viable strategy and it tends to be used at some point anyways. Blackballing someone for missing a PR I haven't seen, which makes it unusual but I see Rodion's point.

On the other hand, I don't want the mod to win simply because we refused to use a strategy. There's no rule that says mod will automatically use in a fakeclaim, so he can still fake a claim and still win.

I say we should massclaim if we think it's going to help us win, I see nothing unfun about that, it doesn't mean an autolose for the mod.

[everywhere116]

I will go along with the massclaim if the majority agrees to it, but we need to answer a question first: Do you believe the value of potentially catching the mod in a lie is worth showing our hands to him?

[vodean]

isnt it too easy for the mod just to say that he is VT? then we get nowhere, except exposing all the power roles.

[pmchugh]

isnt it too easy for the mod just to say that he is VT? then we get nowhere, except exposing all the power roles.

Tracker/Watcher could fook her/him up if (s)he did. I don't think we could really lose if we did this and I see where new guy is coming from but I dislike his threat to get replaced if we do it.

[crazymilkshake5]

seeing as how there is only 1 bad guy, a tracker/watcher would have to have alot of luck. MLP,

can I stop talking in purple? or no?

[pmchugh]

seeing as how there is only 1 bad guy, a tracker/watcher would have to have alot of luck. MLP,

can I stop talking in purple? or no?

You can. Not really, considering the number of nights they would have to do it. (especially if both are in the game and the mod has multiple powers). VT is not a good claim as mafia.

[vodean]

seeing as how there is only 1 bad guy, a tracker/watcher would have to have alot of luck. MLP,

can I stop talking in purple? or no?

You can. Not really, considering the number of nights they would have to do it. (especially if both are in the game and the mod has multiple powers). VT is not a good claim as mafia.

you are assuming we dont make mistakes. which we will.

[jgordon1111]

We have several choices at this point,continue the game as normal,start speed lynching each day,or mass claim.

I am going with the one that makes sense and with the players that are in this game puts the odds in our favor of winning.

MLP town bodyguard not given a specific name,my role is in blue

[pmchugh]

We have several choices at this point,continue the game as normal,start speed lynching each day,or mass claim.

I am going with the one that makes sense and with the players that are in this game puts the odds in our favor of winning.

MLP town bodyguard not given a specific name,my role is in blue

You shouldn't claim prior to agreement on a mass claim. You really love to claim don't you?

Also since you are a bodyguard is that to one specific player? Do you know who/what they are? Even if you do, please don't say.

[jgordon1111]

We have several choices at this point,continue the game as normal,start speed lynching each day,or mass claim.

I am going with the one that makes sense and with the players that are in this game puts the odds in our favor of winning.

MLP town bodyguard not given a specific name,my role is in blue

You shouldn't claim prior to agreement on a mass claim. You really love to claim don't you?

Also since you are a bodyguard is that to one specific player? Do you know who/what they are? Even if you do, please don't say.

My way of voting,and getting it out of the way just in case its not decided to mass claim, if we have a tracker he will know what to do MLP

[new guy1]

I just read up, and safari's post on the mod being able to fake claim and probably have a pretty good one convinced me that its not as bad as I thought it might turn out. Im still not for it exactly, but I dont want a replacement if we are forced to mass claim ...

[jgordon1111]

I just read up, and safari's post on the mod being able to fake claim and probably have a pretty good one convinced me that its not as bad as I thought it might turn out. Im still not for it exactly, but I dont want a replacement if we are forced to mass claim ...

Its not really a forced mass claim NG1,at this point it seems the best strat,better than most of us getting mod killed.

Look at D1 how many of us made mistakes,those are bad odds for town. The odds raise with this or speed lynch. I dont like speed lynching because you can lose power roles to easy. We lost the cop that way. Bad idea from my point of view. PMC said I love to claim,not really. I weighed this one out before I did,odds are there is still a doc in this game. And the mod will have to be careful on his claim,probably the vt's are limited and no survivor roles.That doesnt allow for a whole lot of other options. So to me the best option was mass claim,if its decided not to do it, well a tracker can do his job. Also if we do and we have more than one role that needs protecting we are covered,we can decide before D2 what to do.MLP

[jonty125]

I disagree with a massclaim and I also think we should speedlynch if someone makes a mistake - but no necessarily the offender i.e. I make a mistake, I claim, we make a lynch but we choose #1 candidate not necessarily the person who made the mistake.

[jgordon1111]

I disagree with a massclaim and I also think we should speedlynch if someone makes a mistake - but no necessarily the offender i.e. I make a mistake, I claim, we make a lynch but we choose #1 candidate not necessarily the person who made the mistake.

MLP jonty you contradict yourself in your very first sentence. you state speed lynch for mistakes but not if its you. That is probably the most self serving illogical arguement I have ever witnessed.

[jonty125]

I disagree with a massclaim and I also think we should speedlynch if someone makes a mistake - but no necessarily the offender i.e. I make a mistake, I claim, we make a lynch but we choose #1 candidate not necessarily the person who made the mistake.

MLP jonty you contradict yourself in your very first sentence. you state speed lynch for mistakes but not if its you. That is probably the most self serving illogical arguement I have ever witnessed.

I'm not saying I should be given amnesty, but if they claim something like doc, then they should be not lynched and someone else should. FOS jgordon for skimming.

[jgordon1111]

I disagree with a massclaim and I also think we should speedlynch if someone makes a mistake - but no necessarily the offender i.e. I make a mistake, I claim, we make a lynch but we choose #1 candidate not necessarily the person who made the mistake.

MLP jonty you contradict yourself in your very first sentence. you state speed lynch for mistakes but not if its you. That is probably the most self serving illogical arguement I have ever witnessed.

I'm not saying I should be given amnesty, but if they claim something like doc, then they should be not lynched and someone else should. FOS jgordon for skimming.

MLP lol FOS for skimming are you serious, Your logic is faulty, here is why if we take the time to speed lynch each day and the person claims doc or some other power role you have given it up to the mod. Have you also forgotten the cop was speed lynched. therefore not guaranteeing anyone is safe no matter their role

If we mass claim at least we have a chance in one or two shots of picking out the mod by a fakeclaim and taking action before the day begins and mistakes are made that can mod kill you. therefore logically mass claim is the best choice of the options

[jonty125]

I disagree with a massclaim and I also think we should speedlynch if someone makes a mistake - but no necessarily the offender i.e. I make a mistake, I claim, we make a lynch but we choose #1 candidate not necessarily the person who made the mistake.

MLP jonty you contradict yourself in your very first sentence. you state speed lynch for mistakes but not if its you. That is probably the most self serving illogical arguement I have ever witnessed.

I'm not saying I should be given amnesty, but if they claim something like doc, then they should be not lynched and someone else should. FOS jgordon for skimming.

MLP lol FOS for skimming are you serious, Your logic is faulty, here is why if we take the time to speed lynch each day and the person claims doc or some other power role you have given it up to the mod. Have you also forgotten the cop was speed lynched. therefore not guaranteeing anyone is safe no matter their role

If we mass claim at least we have a chance in one or two shots of picking out the mod by a fakeclaim and taking action before the day begins and mistakes are made that can mod kill you. therefore logically mass claim is the best choice of the options

I disagree with the speedlynch of the cop. Also, you don't lynch doc if he claims doc because mafia will kill him tomorrow.

[jgordon1111]

I disagree with a massclaim and I also think we should speedlynch if someone makes a mistake - but no necessarily the offender i.e. I make a mistake, I claim, we make a lynch but we choose #1 candidate not necessarily the person who made the mistake.

MLP jonty you contradict yourself in your very first sentence. you state speed lynch for mistakes but not if its you. That is probably the most self serving illogical arguement I have ever witnessed.

I'm not saying I should be given amnesty, but if they claim something like doc, then they should be not lynched and someone else should. FOS jgordon for skimming.

MLP lol FOS for skimming are you serious, Your logic is faulty, here is why if we take the time to speed lynch each day and the person claims doc or some other power role you have given it up to the mod. Have you also forgotten the cop was speed lynched. therefore not guaranteeing anyone is safe no matter their role

If we mass claim at least we have a chance in one or two shots of picking out the mod by a fakeclaim and taking action before the day begins and mistakes are made that can mod kill you. therefore logically mass claim is the best choice of the options

I disagree with the speedlynch of the cop. Also, you don't lynch doc if he claims doc because mafia will kill him tomorrow.

What I am trying to get across to you here jonty if you hadnt already noticed is that the normal rules are not applying here,under normal circumstances an un counter claimed cop would not have been lynched. So rather than go thru that process again with any other power roles, mass claim and work out the tactics for the next day is best. And if you BW the doc by accident he is lost either way most likely. Thats not a win MLP

[jonty125]

You are aware, that mod rules don't apply now.

[jgordon1111]

Very aware but repetition of something keeps you from repeating mistakes,did you miss several of us having this conversation? MLP