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kwanton wrote:I have something important I need to tell you. I anticipate it will result in my receiving a barrage of angry e-mail from Mafia accusing me of being mentally deficient, but Mafia is an expert at shameless name-dropping. It is requisite, even in this summary sketch, to go back a few years to see how if you intend to challenge someone's assertions, you need to present a counterargument. Mafia provides none. This is well illustrated in what remains one of the most divisive issues of our day: Fabianism. You may be surprised to learn that I was once like Mafia. I, too, wanted to make mountains out of molehills. It interfered with my judgment, my reasoning, and my ability to address a number of important issues.
I am being absolutely serious when I say that we must stop tiptoeing and begin marching boldly and forthrightly towards our goal, which is to advance freedom in countries strangled by tyranny. Mafia repeats the term "schizosaccharomycetaceae" over and over again in everything it writes. Is this repetition part of some new drinking game, or is Mafia merely trying to confuse us into believing that men are spare parts in the social repertoireāmere optional extras? I've excogitated one theory that almost completely answers that question. Unfortunately, it fails to take into account that the law of self preservation dictates that I allay the concerns of the many people who have been harmed by Mafia. But waitāas they say on late-night television infomercialsāthere's more: Mafia has been trying to convince us that things have never been better. That argument fails to take into account the reality that I support those who devote their life to education and activism. It is through their tireless efforts that people everywhere are learning that I deeply believe that it's within our grasp to put Mafia's egocentric screeds to the question. Be grateful for this first and last tidbit of comforting news. The rest of this letter will center around the way that it is typical of illogical skinflints in its wild invocations to the irrational, the magic, and the fantastic to dramatize its inclinations.
We could opt to sit back and let Mafia lead us into an age of shoddinessāshoddy goods, shoddy services, shoddy morals, and shoddy people. Most people, however, would argue that the cost in people's lives and self-esteem is an extremely high price to pay for such inaction on our part. While perhaps offensive to some readers, only a direct quote can fully convey the perverted nature and content of Mafia's plaints: "Attention, collaborators! Your orders are to give an air of scientific impartiality to biased judgments, and to do so at any cost."
Mafia says that it is a refined organization with the soundest ethics and morals you can imagine. The inference is that Mafia is the arbiter of all things. I'm happy to report that I can't follow that logic. I insist that there are in fact many people who possess the intelligence, wisdom, talent, and ability to deal with Mafia appropriately. My goal is to locate those people and encourage them to help me recognize and respect the opinions, practices, and behavior of others.
However, I stand by what I've written before, that knowledge and wisdom are Mafia's enemies. It understands that by limiting education and enlightenment, it can fool more people into believing that colonialism can quell the hatred and disorder in our society. Sadly, those with the least education are those who would benefit most from the knowledge that Mafia's advocates don't want us to expose every crude practice of every crude Philistine. That'd be too much of a threat to mercantalism, tuchungism, and all of the other mutinous things they worship. Clearly, they prefer sacrificing children on the twin altars of nativism and greed.
It would be wrong to imply that Mafia is involved in some kind of conspiracy to subordinate all spheres of society to an ideological vision of organic community. It would be wrong because its zingers are far beyond the conspiracy stage. Not only that, but its most progressive idea is to overthrow democratic political systems. If that sounds progressive to you, you must be facing the wrong way. Mafia maintains that it has answers to everything. Even if this were so, Mafia would still be indelicate. But Mafia's mind has limited horizons. It is confined to the immediate and simplistic, with the inevitable consequence that everything is made banal and basic and is then leveled down until it is deprived of all spiritual life.
Mafia's forces claim to have no choice but to prop up corrupt despots around the world. I wish there were some way to help these miserable, obnoxious deviants. They are outcasts, lost in a world they didn't make and don't understand. Mafia will do everything in its power to suppress controversy and debate. No wonder corruption is endemic to our society; if I withheld my feelings on this matter, I'd be no less prurient than Mafia. Mafia relies heavily on "useful idiots", that is, people who unwittingly do Mafia's dirty work for it. Without its swarms of useful idiots, Mafia would not have been able to conceal the fact that its nostrums have created an ugly universe devoid of logic and evidence. Only within this universe does it make sense to say that phallocentrism is a wonderful thing. Only within this universe does it make sense to throw away our freedom, our honor, and our future. And, only if we navigate a safe path between the Scylla of Mafia's paltry inveracities and the Charybdis of narcissism can we destroy this gormless universe of Mafia's and find the common ground that enables others to disabuse Mafia of the notion that it acts in the public interest.
I, for one, have long been under the impression that Mafia's favorite buzzword these days is "crisis". It likes to tell us that we have a crisis on our hands. It then argues that the only reasonable approach to combat this crisis is for it to evade responsibility. In my opinion, the real crisis is the dearth of people who understand that Mafia says that people are pawns to be used and manipulated. That is the most despicable lie I have ever heard in my entire life. It is probably unwise to say this loudly, but Mafia's writings are a field of misspellings and misprisions. Do I blame society for this? No, I blame Mafia.
I find that I am embarrassed. I am embarrassed that some people just don't realize that we can't afford to be so small-minded in such difficult times. Am I being unduly harsh for writing that? I think not. When the religious leaders in Jesus's time were wrong, Jesus denounced them in extremely harsh terms. So why shouldn't I, too, use extremely harsh terms to indicate that peremptory, capricious ideologues are so much in hock to Mafia that they feel obligated to sharpen intergroup tensions?
I, for one, clearly don't know what Mafia's problem is, but it appears committed to the proposition that its views are correct, self-evident, and based on fact and reason, while other organizations' positions are not just wrong but illegitimate, ideological, and unworthy of serious consideration. If you were to get a second opinion from someone who's not a member of its gang, however, he'd of course tell you that I, not being one of the many reprehensible philosophasters of this world, like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: Mafia's philippics are geared toward the continuation of social stratification under the rubric of "tradition". Funny, that was the same term that its spinmeisters once used to provide grotty couch potatoes with a milieu in which they can snooker people of every stripe into believing that honor counts for nothing. Everybody loves a good game of hide-and-seek: find the person, find the hidden item, or, in Mafia's case, find the hidden agenda. Okay, I've written enough for one letter, so let me just finish by saying that Mafia is famousāinfamous, reallyāfor breaking up society's solidarity and cohesiveness.
pmchugh wrote:If I wasn't lazy, I would sig that
Mr. Squirrel wrote:kwanton wrote:I have something important I need to tell you. I anticipate it will result in my receiving a barrage of angry e-mail from Mafia accusing me of being mentally deficient, but Mafia is an expert at shameless name-dropping. It is requisite, even in this summary sketch, to go back a few years to see how if you intend to challenge someone's assertions, you need to present a counterargument. Mafia provides none. This is well illustrated in what remains one of the most divisive issues of our day: Fabianism. You may be surprised to learn that I was once like Mafia. I, too, wanted to make mountains out of molehills. It interfered with my judgment, my reasoning, and my ability to address a number of important issues.
I am being absolutely serious when I say that we must stop tiptoeing and begin marching boldly and forthrightly towards our goal, which is to advance freedom in countries strangled by tyranny. Mafia repeats the term "schizosaccharomycetaceae" over and over again in everything it writes. Is this repetition part of some new drinking game, or is Mafia merely trying to confuse us into believing that men are spare parts in the social repertoireāmere optional extras? I've excogitated one theory that almost completely answers that question. Unfortunately, it fails to take into account that the law of self preservation dictates that I allay the concerns of the many people who have been harmed by Mafia. But waitāas they say on late-night television infomercialsāthere's more: Mafia has been trying to convince us that things have never been better. That argument fails to take into account the reality that I support those who devote their life to education and activism. It is through their tireless efforts that people everywhere are learning that I deeply believe that it's within our grasp to put Mafia's egocentric screeds to the question. Be grateful for this first and last tidbit of comforting news. The rest of this letter will center around the way that it is typical of illogical skinflints in its wild invocations to the irrational, the magic, and the fantastic to dramatize its inclinations.
We could opt to sit back and let Mafia lead us into an age of shoddinessāshoddy goods, shoddy services, shoddy morals, and shoddy people. Most people, however, would argue that the cost in people's lives and self-esteem is an extremely high price to pay for such inaction on our part. While perhaps offensive to some readers, only a direct quote can fully convey the perverted nature and content of Mafia's plaints: "Attention, collaborators! Your orders are to give an air of scientific impartiality to biased judgments, and to do so at any cost."
Mafia says that it is a refined organization with the soundest ethics and morals you can imagine. The inference is that Mafia is the arbiter of all things. I'm happy to report that I can't follow that logic. I insist that there are in fact many people who possess the intelligence, wisdom, talent, and ability to deal with Mafia appropriately. My goal is to locate those people and encourage them to help me recognize and respect the opinions, practices, and behavior of others.
However, I stand by what I've written before, that knowledge and wisdom are Mafia's enemies. It understands that by limiting education and enlightenment, it can fool more people into believing that colonialism can quell the hatred and disorder in our society. Sadly, those with the least education are those who would benefit most from the knowledge that Mafia's advocates don't want us to expose every crude practice of every crude Philistine. That'd be too much of a threat to mercantalism, tuchungism, and all of the other mutinous things they worship. Clearly, they prefer sacrificing children on the twin altars of nativism and greed.
It would be wrong to imply that Mafia is involved in some kind of conspiracy to subordinate all spheres of society to an ideological vision of organic community. It would be wrong because its zingers are far beyond the conspiracy stage. Not only that, but its most progressive idea is to overthrow democratic political systems. If that sounds progressive to you, you must be facing the wrong way. Mafia maintains that it has answers to everything. Even if this were so, Mafia would still be indelicate. But Mafia's mind has limited horizons. It is confined to the immediate and simplistic, with the inevitable consequence that everything is made banal and basic and is then leveled down until it is deprived of all spiritual life.
Mafia's forces claim to have no choice but to prop up corrupt despots around the world. I wish there were some way to help these miserable, obnoxious deviants. They are outcasts, lost in a world they didn't make and don't understand. Mafia will do everything in its power to suppress controversy and debate. No wonder corruption is endemic to our society; if I withheld my feelings on this matter, I'd be no less prurient than Mafia. Mafia relies heavily on "useful idiots", that is, people who unwittingly do Mafia's dirty work for it. Without its swarms of useful idiots, Mafia would not have been able to conceal the fact that its nostrums have created an ugly universe devoid of logic and evidence. Only within this universe does it make sense to say that phallocentrism is a wonderful thing. Only within this universe does it make sense to throw away our freedom, our honor, and our future. And, only if we navigate a safe path between the Scylla of Mafia's paltry inveracities and the Charybdis of narcissism can we destroy this gormless universe of Mafia's and find the common ground that enables others to disabuse Mafia of the notion that it acts in the public interest.
I, for one, have long been under the impression that Mafia's favorite buzzword these days is "crisis". It likes to tell us that we have a crisis on our hands. It then argues that the only reasonable approach to combat this crisis is for it to evade responsibility. In my opinion, the real crisis is the dearth of people who understand that Mafia says that people are pawns to be used and manipulated. That is the most despicable lie I have ever heard in my entire life. It is probably unwise to say this loudly, but Mafia's writings are a field of misspellings and misprisions. Do I blame society for this? No, I blame Mafia.
I find that I am embarrassed. I am embarrassed that some people just don't realize that we can't afford to be so small-minded in such difficult times. Am I being unduly harsh for writing that? I think not. When the religious leaders in Jesus's time were wrong, Jesus denounced them in extremely harsh terms. So why shouldn't I, too, use extremely harsh terms to indicate that peremptory, capricious ideologues are so much in hock to Mafia that they feel obligated to sharpen intergroup tensions?
I, for one, clearly don't know what Mafia's problem is, but it appears committed to the proposition that its views are correct, self-evident, and based on fact and reason, while other organizations' positions are not just wrong but illegitimate, ideological, and unworthy of serious consideration. If you were to get a second opinion from someone who's not a member of its gang, however, he'd of course tell you that I, not being one of the many reprehensible philosophasters of this world, like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: Mafia's philippics are geared toward the continuation of social stratification under the rubric of "tradition". Funny, that was the same term that its spinmeisters once used to provide grotty couch potatoes with a milieu in which they can snooker people of every stripe into believing that honor counts for nothing. Everybody loves a good game of hide-and-seek: find the person, find the hidden item, or, in Mafia's case, find the hidden agenda. Okay, I've written enough for one letter, so let me just finish by saying that Mafia is famousāinfamous, reallyāfor breaking up society's solidarity and cohesiveness.
EBWOP
umad?
Rodion wrote:Squirrel helped with the spec as far as diagnosing obvious memes. He never said anything about liking the "let's find out who the evil memes are" approach.
Medefe said he didn't mind the spec as long as people didn't try to buy town cred for what he considers "fake scumhunting" (and I agree with him on that - actually, given the order of posts, he agrees with me).
I don't see how Squirrel thinking Medefe's position has made the most sense so far is confusing/incompatible/incoherent.
As far as Medefe mixing memes, THAT is interesting. I see 3 options:
a) character is related to role - Medefe realizes his character is easily associated with a town power role and wants to preserve himself by consufing us with several PRs
b) character is related to alignment - Medefe realizes his character is easily associated with an anti-town alignment and wants to preserve himself by confusing us with several PRs
c) PCM/Commander gave him a hybrid meme or a "metameme" (a meme about other memes) of sorts
My knowledge about my role PM allows me to conclude it is not "b" as far as the" 'evil memes' are mafia" theory goes. I think I know how to better understand this, though. It's just a matter of time.
Skoffin wrote: So um.. er... I'll be honest, I don't know what the f*ck to do from here. Goddamnit chu.
kwanton wrote:Mr. Squirrel wrote:kwanton wrote:I have something important I need to tell you. I anticipate it will result in my receiving a barrage of angry e-mail from Mafia accusing me of being mentally deficient, but Mafia is an expert at shameless name-dropping. It is requisite, even in this summary sketch, to go back a few years to see how if you intend to challenge someone's assertions, you need to present a counterargument. Mafia provides none. This is well illustrated in what remains one of the most divisive issues of our day: Fabianism. You may be surprised to learn that I was once like Mafia. I, too, wanted to make mountains out of molehills. It interfered with my judgment, my reasoning, and my ability to address a number of important issues.
I am being absolutely serious when I say that we must stop tiptoeing and begin marching boldly and forthrightly towards our goal, which is to advance freedom in countries strangled by tyranny. Mafia repeats the term "schizosaccharomycetaceae" over and over again in everything it writes. Is this repetition part of some new drinking game, or is Mafia merely trying to confuse us into believing that men are spare parts in the social repertoireāmere optional extras? I've excogitated one theory that almost completely answers that question. Unfortunately, it fails to take into account that the law of self preservation dictates that I allay the concerns of the many people who have been harmed by Mafia. But waitāas they say on late-night television infomercialsāthere's more: Mafia has been trying to convince us that things have never been better. That argument fails to take into account the reality that I support those who devote their life to education and activism. It is through their tireless efforts that people everywhere are learning that I deeply believe that it's within our grasp to put Mafia's egocentric screeds to the question. Be grateful for this first and last tidbit of comforting news. The rest of this letter will center around the way that it is typical of illogical skinflints in its wild invocations to the irrational, the magic, and the fantastic to dramatize its inclinations.
We could opt to sit back and let Mafia lead us into an age of shoddinessāshoddy goods, shoddy services, shoddy morals, and shoddy people. Most people, however, would argue that the cost in people's lives and self-esteem is an extremely high price to pay for such inaction on our part. While perhaps offensive to some readers, only a direct quote can fully convey the perverted nature and content of Mafia's plaints: "Attention, collaborators! Your orders are to give an air of scientific impartiality to biased judgments, and to do so at any cost."
Mafia says that it is a refined organization with the soundest ethics and morals you can imagine. The inference is that Mafia is the arbiter of all things. I'm happy to report that I can't follow that logic. I insist that there are in fact many people who possess the intelligence, wisdom, talent, and ability to deal with Mafia appropriately. My goal is to locate those people and encourage them to help me recognize and respect the opinions, practices, and behavior of others.
However, I stand by what I've written before, that knowledge and wisdom are Mafia's enemies. It understands that by limiting education and enlightenment, it can fool more people into believing that colonialism can quell the hatred and disorder in our society. Sadly, those with the least education are those who would benefit most from the knowledge that Mafia's advocates don't want us to expose every crude practice of every crude Philistine. That'd be too much of a threat to mercantalism, tuchungism, and all of the other mutinous things they worship. Clearly, they prefer sacrificing children on the twin altars of nativism and greed.
It would be wrong to imply that Mafia is involved in some kind of conspiracy to subordinate all spheres of society to an ideological vision of organic community. It would be wrong because its zingers are far beyond the conspiracy stage. Not only that, but its most progressive idea is to overthrow democratic political systems. If that sounds progressive to you, you must be facing the wrong way. Mafia maintains that it has answers to everything. Even if this were so, Mafia would still be indelicate. But Mafia's mind has limited horizons. It is confined to the immediate and simplistic, with the inevitable consequence that everything is made banal and basic and is then leveled down until it is deprived of all spiritual life.
Mafia's forces claim to have no choice but to prop up corrupt despots around the world. I wish there were some way to help these miserable, obnoxious deviants. They are outcasts, lost in a world they didn't make and don't understand. Mafia will do everything in its power to suppress controversy and debate. No wonder corruption is endemic to our society; if I withheld my feelings on this matter, I'd be no less prurient than Mafia. Mafia relies heavily on "useful idiots", that is, people who unwittingly do Mafia's dirty work for it. Without its swarms of useful idiots, Mafia would not have been able to conceal the fact that its nostrums have created an ugly universe devoid of logic and evidence. Only within this universe does it make sense to say that phallocentrism is a wonderful thing. Only within this universe does it make sense to throw away our freedom, our honor, and our future. And, only if we navigate a safe path between the Scylla of Mafia's paltry inveracities and the Charybdis of narcissism can we destroy this gormless universe of Mafia's and find the common ground that enables others to disabuse Mafia of the notion that it acts in the public interest.
I, for one, have long been under the impression that Mafia's favorite buzzword these days is "crisis". It likes to tell us that we have a crisis on our hands. It then argues that the only reasonable approach to combat this crisis is for it to evade responsibility. In my opinion, the real crisis is the dearth of people who understand that Mafia says that people are pawns to be used and manipulated. That is the most despicable lie I have ever heard in my entire life. It is probably unwise to say this loudly, but Mafia's writings are a field of misspellings and misprisions. Do I blame society for this? No, I blame Mafia.
I find that I am embarrassed. I am embarrassed that some people just don't realize that we can't afford to be so small-minded in such difficult times. Am I being unduly harsh for writing that? I think not. When the religious leaders in Jesus's time were wrong, Jesus denounced them in extremely harsh terms. So why shouldn't I, too, use extremely harsh terms to indicate that peremptory, capricious ideologues are so much in hock to Mafia that they feel obligated to sharpen intergroup tensions?
I, for one, clearly don't know what Mafia's problem is, but it appears committed to the proposition that its views are correct, self-evident, and based on fact and reason, while other organizations' positions are not just wrong but illegitimate, ideological, and unworthy of serious consideration. If you were to get a second opinion from someone who's not a member of its gang, however, he'd of course tell you that I, not being one of the many reprehensible philosophasters of this world, like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: Mafia's philippics are geared toward the continuation of social stratification under the rubric of "tradition". Funny, that was the same term that its spinmeisters once used to provide grotty couch potatoes with a milieu in which they can snooker people of every stripe into believing that honor counts for nothing. Everybody loves a good game of hide-and-seek: find the person, find the hidden item, or, in Mafia's case, find the hidden agenda. Okay, I've written enough for one letter, so let me just finish by saying that Mafia is famousāinfamous, reallyāfor breaking up society's solidarity and cohesiveness.
EBWOP
umad?
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DoomYoshi wrote:Test it on me. Tree stump is my favorite role anyway lol. Next time I am picking Wispy Woods as my character.
Haggis_McMutton wrote:2. Anyone else find it kind of funny that naxus is NK'd right after insisting that we're all paranoid?
sheepofdumb wrote:
kwanton wrote:I have something important I need to tell you. I anticipate it will result in my receiving a barrage of angry e-mail from Mafia accusing me of being mentally deficient, but Mafia is an expert at shameless name-dropping. It is requisite, even in this summary sketch, to go back a few years to see how if you intend to challenge someone's assertions, you need to present a counterargument. Mafia provides none. This is well illustrated in what remains one of the most divisive issues of our day: Fabianism. You may be surprised to learn that I was once like Mafia. I, too, wanted to make mountains out of molehills. It interfered with my judgment, my reasoning, and my ability to address a number of important issues.
I am being absolutely serious when I say that we must stop tiptoeing and begin marching boldly and forthrightly towards our goal, which is to advance freedom in countries strangled by tyranny. Mafia repeats the term "schizosaccharomycetaceae" over and over again in everything it writes. Is this repetition part of some new drinking game, or is Mafia merely trying to confuse us into believing that men are spare parts in the social repertoireāmere optional extras? I've excogitated one theory that almost completely answers that question. Unfortunately, it fails to take into account that the law of self preservation dictates that I allay the concerns of the many people who have been harmed by Mafia. But waitāas they say on late-night television infomercialsāthere's more: Mafia has been trying to convince us that things have never been better. That argument fails to take into account the reality that I support those who devote their life to education and activism. It is through their tireless efforts that people everywhere are learning that I deeply believe that it's within our grasp to put Mafia's egocentric screeds to the question. Be grateful for this first and last tidbit of comforting news. The rest of this letter will center around the way that it is typical of illogical skinflints in its wild invocations to the irrational, the magic, and the fantastic to dramatize its inclinations.
We could opt to sit back and let Mafia lead us into an age of shoddinessāshoddy goods, shoddy services, shoddy morals, and shoddy people. Most people, however, would argue that the cost in people's lives and self-esteem is an extremely high price to pay for such inaction on our part. While perhaps offensive to some readers, only a direct quote can fully convey the perverted nature and content of Mafia's plaints: "Attention, collaborators! Your orders are to give an air of scientific impartiality to biased judgments, and to do so at any cost."
Mafia says that it is a refined organization with the soundest ethics and morals you can imagine. The inference is that Mafia is the arbiter of all things. I'm happy to report that I can't follow that logic. I insist that there are in fact many people who possess the intelligence, wisdom, talent, and ability to deal with Mafia appropriately. My goal is to locate those people and encourage them to help me recognize and respect the opinions, practices, and behavior of others.
However, I stand by what I've written before, that knowledge and wisdom are Mafia's enemies. It understands that by limiting education and enlightenment, it can fool more people into believing that colonialism can quell the hatred and disorder in our society. Sadly, those with the least education are those who would benefit most from the knowledge that Mafia's advocates don't want us to expose every crude practice of every crude Philistine. That'd be too much of a threat to mercantalism, tuchungism, and all of the other mutinous things they worship. Clearly, they prefer sacrificing children on the twin altars of nativism and greed.
It would be wrong to imply that Mafia is involved in some kind of conspiracy to subordinate all spheres of society to an ideological vision of organic community. It would be wrong because its zingers are far beyond the conspiracy stage. Not only that, but its most progressive idea is to overthrow democratic political systems. If that sounds progressive to you, you must be facing the wrong way. Mafia maintains that it has answers to everything. Even if this were so, Mafia would still be indelicate. But Mafia's mind has limited horizons. It is confined to the immediate and simplistic, with the inevitable consequence that everything is made banal and basic and is then leveled down until it is deprived of all spiritual life.
Mafia's forces claim to have no choice but to prop up corrupt despots around the world. I wish there were some way to help these miserable, obnoxious deviants. They are outcasts, lost in a world they didn't make and don't understand. Mafia will do everything in its power to suppress controversy and debate. No wonder corruption is endemic to our society; if I withheld my feelings on this matter, I'd be no less prurient than Mafia. Mafia relies heavily on "useful idiots", that is, people who unwittingly do Mafia's dirty work for it. Without its swarms of useful idiots, Mafia would not have been able to conceal the fact that its nostrums have created an ugly universe devoid of logic and evidence. Only within this universe does it make sense to say that phallocentrism is a wonderful thing. Only within this universe does it make sense to throw away our freedom, our honor, and our future. And, only if we navigate a safe path between the Scylla of Mafia's paltry inveracities and the Charybdis of narcissism can we destroy this gormless universe of Mafia's and find the common ground that enables others to disabuse Mafia of the notion that it acts in the public interest.
I, for one, have long been under the impression that Mafia's favorite buzzword these days is "crisis". It likes to tell us that we have a crisis on our hands. It then argues that the only reasonable approach to combat this crisis is for it to evade responsibility. In my opinion, the real crisis is the dearth of people who understand that Mafia says that people are pawns to be used and manipulated. That is the most despicable lie I have ever heard in my entire life. It is probably unwise to say this loudly, but Mafia's writings are a field of misspellings and misprisions. Do I blame society for this? No, I blame Mafia.
I find that I am embarrassed. I am embarrassed that some people just don't realize that we can't afford to be so small-minded in such difficult times. Am I being unduly harsh for writing that? I think not. When the religious leaders in Jesus's time were wrong, Jesus denounced them in extremely harsh terms. So why shouldn't I, too, use extremely harsh terms to indicate that peremptory, capricious ideologues are so much in hock to Mafia that they feel obligated to sharpen intergroup tensions?
I, for one, clearly don't know what Mafia's problem is, but it appears committed to the proposition that its views are correct, self-evident, and based on fact and reason, while other organizations' positions are not just wrong but illegitimate, ideological, and unworthy of serious consideration. If you were to get a second opinion from someone who's not a member of its gang, however, he'd of course tell you that I, not being one of the many reprehensible philosophasters of this world, like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: Mafia's philippics are geared toward the continuation of social stratification under the rubric of "tradition". Funny, that was the same term that its spinmeisters once used to provide grotty couch potatoes with a milieu in which they can snooker people of every stripe into believing that honor counts for nothing. Everybody loves a good game of hide-and-seek: find the person, find the hidden item, or, in Mafia's case, find the hidden agenda. Okay, I've written enough for one letter, so let me just finish by saying that Mafia is famousāinfamous, reallyāfor breaking up society's solidarity and cohesiveness.
MeDeFe wrote:safariguy5 wrote:What? Every player with a power has a PR? Doesn't this make it easy for mafia to pick off the town power roles then? A good mod (and I consider these two to be good mods) spreads out the PRs across both town and mafia, power roles and VT's (or lesser power roles if this is NV).
Dawg, scum is a power role (at the very least they get to talk to each other by PM), too, and I just mentioned it as a possibility since PRs have been tied to powers in some way in every game I've played in (excluding this one, about which I will make no statements either way). What you say about non-vanilla is true, I consider that a possiblity to motivate people to try and observe their PRs, maybe a single VT for teh lulz.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Not to mention that there's a much larger percentage of the players that have PRs than in normal games.
There can be no PRs until there are PRs for everyone!
-Tails
safariguy5 wrote:Well I'll throw out a very recent example then. TeamCC mafia, streaker was a VT with a PR. Insane, but doesn't change the fact that he was VT.
I've seen town and mafia have PR's. I've seen VT's and power roles have PR's. The existence or lack of a PR is not something that we can use to guess alignment or powers. Certainly it can be used for ID'ing individual memes, but it should not reveal much more than that in a properly balanced theme game.
saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.
MeDeFe wrote:safariguy5 wrote:Well I'll throw out a very recent example then. TeamCC mafia, streaker was a VT with a PR. Insane, but doesn't change the fact that he was VT.
Happened to me, too, dawg. I thought I had powers in the postapocalyptic game when I didn't really have any, I had a PR and was told I'd lose my powers if I didn't observe the PR -> PR related to powers. I was a bit disappoint that I was a loonie and not the conqueror of the world, but that's life, you get set up the bomb and then your base is belong to someone else.I've seen town and mafia have PR's. I've seen VT's and power roles have PR's. The existence or lack of a PR is not something that we can use to guess alignment or powers. Certainly it can be used for ID'ing individual memes, but it should not reveal much more than that in a properly balanced theme game.
Good, then we're pretty much in agreement. I still don't see how identifying what meme a certain player has been assigned helps us, though.
Furthermore, PONIES!
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
DoomYoshi wrote:Test it on me. Tree stump is my favorite role anyway lol. Next time I am picking Wispy Woods as my character.
jonty125 wrote:Am I missing the punchline with all these ponies 'cos I don't see the funny side
sensfan wrote:jonty125 wrote:Am I missing the punchline with all these ponies 'cos I don't see the funny side
It's a post restriction. My pr is that I must be fun! So, have fun! There. Happy, mod?
jonty125 wrote:sensfan wrote:jonty125 wrote:Am I missing the punchline with all these ponies 'cos I don't see the funny side
It's a post restriction. My pr is that I must be fun! So, have fun! There. Happy, mod?
That reminds me I forgot my PR
OVER 9000!, OVER 9000!, OVER 9000!, OVER 9000!, OVER 9000!, OVER 9000!, OVER 9000!, OVER 9000!, OVER 9000!, OVER 9000!, OVER 9000!,
That should do the trick.
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
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