Actors Mafia Endgame: Town Wins

[Victor Sullivan]

23 hours?? Christ! Vote Conzocool.

-Sully

[soundman]

Since we don't have much time left and need some info, Vote Conzocool

[MoB Deadly]

I think he is at L-2 right?

[edocsil]

I think he is at L-2 right?

give or take a bit, whatever he is at he will have to claim or risk being hung

[strike wolf]

The Count of Votes

mob
Edocsil
Sound
Rodion
Spiesr
PCM (2)-spiesr, sound
Drunkmonkey (3)-newguy1, zimmah, conzo
conzocool (7)-Bgthebrain, edocsil Flores, safariguy, drunkmonkey, victor, Soundman L-3
wildwill
blakebowling (1)-blakebowling
newguy (1)-will
Shaggy
Safari (1)-Rody
Zimmah

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline in 21 and half hour.

[Conzocool]

Oh sheesh! Ok then, I'm Ellen Ripley-Town jailkeeper. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused...

[edocsil]

An easy fake for a scum roleblocker, but not a particularly implausible role. Not certain the best course of action.

[BGtheBrain]

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[MoB Deadly]

Jailkeeper to me seems very important, anyone he jails becomes invulnerable (so hes a doctor). And anyone he jails he roleblocks. Its easy, I think let him live, we can test his claim later? I am having second thoughts of letting him live though.

His name is Ellen Ripley? Does that coincide with other role names in this game? It does not coincide with mine

[BGtheBrain]

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[MoB Deadly]

I didnt think about it that way, that is very true. I do not have a problem casting the hammer, but I want to get the consensus from the rest of the town.

[MoB Deadly]

can anyone calculate the actual deadline, I suck calculating from CC time

[BGtheBrain]

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[drunkmonkey]

It seems to me that the best use of a doc is to protect our power roles. However, protecting them while removing their role for the night doesn't seem too helpful. I also agree it sounds like an easy fakeclaim. This seems like a low-risk lynch.

[jonty125]

It seems to me that the best use of a doc is to protect our power roles. However, protecting them while removing their role for the night doesn't seem too helpful. I also agree it sounds like an easy fakeclaim. This seems like a low-risk lynch.

Jailkeeper can be good because if he hits mafia they're roleblocked and a game size of 18 may or may not have a vig - we'll have to wait for scenes.

[BGtheBrain]

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[jonty125]

If hes telling the truth, I think the odds of him blocking town power roles are far greater than him blocking mafia.

18 player game - probably 4 members of mafia (could be GodFather, and goons possibly with powers). Strike never metioned about VT's, but there is probably a town cop, doc, roleblocker so I would say 50/50 on mafia and town power role.

[BGtheBrain]

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[strike wolf]

The Count of Votes

mob
Edocsil
Sound
Rodion
Spiesr
PCM (2)-spiesr, sound
Drunkmonkey (3)-newguy1, zimmah, conzo
conzocool (7)-Bgthebrain, edocsil Flores, safariguy, drunkmonkey, victor, Soundman L-3
wildwill
blakebowling (1)-blakebowling
newguy (1)-will
Shaggy
Safari (1)-Rody
Zimmah

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline in 9 hours

[jonty125]

I would say 50/50 on mafia and town power role.

And now if we include blocking of other less important town roles what does that change to?

Now lets factor in his experience (which would lean towards him picking incorrectly).

These #'s do not work in the towns favor.

Jonty, you realize if he turns up scum, your gonna have a busy day tomorrow right? You also realize this lynch is going to happen because its D-1.

A better way to prevent him from being lynched would be if you were to present a case on someone else.

Thoughts on Jonty?

unvote Vote Drunkmonkey might as well keep up the pressure.

I'll let you off the hook as your new, I'm a fairly recent addition and was let off the hook for blunders like these, but don't let me catch you doing this again or I will vote you.

This could be Jonty trying to keep his scummate alive by saying, "Cool it or your gonan get lynched and Ill even vote you."

Hmmm, forgot about lesser roles - still wouldn't want jailkeeper dead but I have no cases.

[FloresDelMal]

Well its Actors. Ripley was from Alien. So for me it works.

Yes, he works like a Doc, but in the meantime he also roleblocks.
So lets say hes keeping a cop safe, whats the point if the cop cant do anything?

Also if he randomly guesses people (some people do this) to jailkeep, he could be block important roles.

true, but we could also stir him towards the right direction if can be sharp enough for read the signs, i do think ripley makes sense as a jailkeeper, and this role itself is not super common for a noob to use it as a fake claim, i might be wrong, but for now i believe him unvote conzo

I dont believe the claim. If we are wrong and Conz is jailkeeper, how bad of a loss is it typically for the town?

if we dont have many protective roles, his loss can be quite bad, also, can you expand? "i dont believe him" doesnt cut it

Jailkeeper can be good because if he hits mafia they're roleblocked and a game size of 18 may or may not have a vig - we'll have to wait for scenes.

If hes telling the truth, I think the odds of him blocking town power roles are far greater than him blocking mafia.

i agree with joty, th'e reason everyone voted was to build pressure and get a claim, the goal was achieved, and your eagerness to lynch a claimed townie seems to me like the behaviour of an over excited scum noob so im placing my last vote for night, ill cross my fingers, but to me your anxious insistence is the biggest scum tell of day 1 vote BGtheBrain

[BGtheBrain]

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[FloresDelMal]

Eagerness or merely correcting erroneous assumptions of the negative impact of having a bad jailkeeper?

LIke I said, i dont believe his claim.

eagerness to lynch a claimed townie

You act as though he is confirmed town, big difference. I think he is the best option and many others agree. If you are done for the night your vote on me was just the same as voting No Lynch because you wont be back before the deadline. How convenient that your vote will go to waste.

well not everyone lives in USA or wherever, here is time to cook dinner and later to sleep, also you still didnt justify why you dont believe him, so i feel good about my vote on you, i really dont see anyone more scummy.

Good night everyone.

[edocsil]

Well its Actors. Ripley was from Alien. So for me it works.

Yes, he works like a Doc, but in the meantime he also roleblocks.
So lets say hes keeping a cop safe, whats the point if the cop cant do anything?

Also if he randomly guesses people (some people do this) to jailkeep, he could be block important roles.

true, but we could also stir him towards the right direction if can be sharp enough for read the signs, i do think ripley makes sense as a jailkeeper, and this role itself is not super common for a noob to use it as a fake claim, i might be wrong, but for now i believe him unvote conzo

I dont believe the claim. If we are wrong and Conz is jailkeeper, how bad of a loss is it typically for the town?

if we dont have many protective roles, his loss can be quite bad, also, can you expand? "i dont believe him" doesnt cut it

Jailkeeper can be good because if he hits mafia they're roleblocked and a game size of 18 may or may not have a vig - we'll have to wait for scenes.

If hes telling the truth, I think the odds of him blocking town power roles are far greater than him blocking mafia.

i agree with joty, th'e reason everyone voted was to build pressure and get a claim, the goal was achieved, and your eagerness to lynch a claimed townie seems to me like the behaviour of an over excited scum noob so im placing my last vote for night, ill cross my fingers, but to me your anxious insistence is the biggest scum tell of day 1 vote BGtheBrain

hours till deadline, it is conzo or no one, this only serves to prevent any lynch at all.

[MoB Deadly]

Eagerness or merely correcting erroneous assumptions of the negative impact of having a bad jailkeeper?

LIke I said, i dont believe his claim.

eagerness to lynch a claimed townie

You act as though he is confirmed town, big difference. I think he is the best option and many others agree. If you are done for the night your vote on me was just the same as voting No Lynch because you wont be back before the deadline. How convenient that your vote will go to waste.

This. He is a claimed townie, mafia is gonna lie, its just how good are they at lying. Jailkeeper cannot be disproven right away. We would have to wait until someone else claims a role with a night action and see if they get roleblocked, but that is a waste of multiple days/nights when he is potentially mafia, when they can talk at night and come up with a gameplan.

I think the potential information we could get is worth the lynch

vote conzo