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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby jonty125 on Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:42 am

unvote vote chapcrap for being third on the BW. Everyone knows that's the ultimate place of scum as this has happen over NNNNIIIIINNNNEEEE TTTHHHOOOOOOOOUUUUUUSSSSSAAAANNNNDDD!! times
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby / on Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:48 pm

Makes sense, or maybe it just has something to do with evil, screaming, monkey-like aliens, me gusta
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby Rodion on Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:15 pm

Unvote

Vote Talapus.


Religious people always give me bad vibes. They say my love for little kids is sinful, but how can love be sinful if it comes from your lib... heart?
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:50 pm

Rodion wrote:Unvote

Vote Talapus.


Religious people always give me bad vibes. They say my love for little kids is sinful, but how can love be sinful if it comes from your lib... heart?

Not judgin'

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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby jonty125 on Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:58 am

3 posts in 24 hours!

Their should be OVER 9000!
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby kwanton on Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:43 am

jonty125 wrote:3 posts in 24 hours!

Their should be OVER 9000!



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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby chapcrap on Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:54 am

jonty125 wrote:3 posts in 24 hours!

Their should be OVER 9000!


Challenge accepted! We will post much more.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby chapcrap on Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:57 am

unvote vote kwanton

He put the name of a picture instead of the picture itself. Pretty scummy.

If you agree, then accept this challenge to vote him.

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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby JenBroness on Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:59 am

Am I allowed to post here if my name isn't in bold on the first page?
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby kwanton on Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:00 pm

yeah activity is flagging. So in an attempt to start a serious discussion:

Since day 1 votes are random and theres really nothing to go on, I like to spend the early parts of the game speculating on setup and possible roles. I've never been to the memebase site myself, so does anyone have an idea of which memes lean town and which lean scum?


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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby kwanton on Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:01 pm

JenBroness wrote:Am I allowed to post here if my name isn't in bold on the first page?


yes. the bold just means a player has confirmed that they received their role PM. Mods just use it to guage when day 1 should officially start and if any early replacements are needed.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby kwanton on Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:01 pm

ABWOP:

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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby naxus on Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:35 pm

JenBroness wrote:Am I allowed to post here if my name isn't in bold on the first page?


Damn you. I had such high expectations. Do you enjoy making your mother cry? A B? everything we've sacrificed and this is what you bring to our table?
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby edocsil on Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:39 pm

Well here is the list.

Admiral Ackbar (9)
Adventure! (5)
Advice Dog (4)
Age of Empires (15)
All the Things! (3)
Anti-Joke Chicken (44)
Art Student Owl (15)
Awww Yeah! (16)
Bad Pickup Line Panda (7)
Bear Grylls (74)
best-of-week (22)
Bill Nye The Science Guy (4)
Bill O'Reilly (18)
Bronies (28)
Business Cat (44)
Captcha (3)
Cereal Guy (34)
Challenge Accepted (40)
Charlie Sheen (19)
Chemistry Cat (8)
Close Enough (15)
Courage Wolf (33)
Creepy Scoutmaster (7)
Dat Ash (22)
Dating Site Murderer (18)
Depression Dog (11)
Derp (23)
Engineering Professor (2)
Forever Alone (173)
Foul Bachelor Frog (96)
Foul Bachelorette Frog (20)
Fry (78)
Good Guy Greg (47)
Gordon Freeman (10)
Happy Kitten (37)
he will never have a girlfriend (19)
High Expectations Asian Dad (38)
Hipster Disney & Friends (51)
Hipster Kitty (111)
Hood Dad (16)
How People View Me (11)
I Don't Want to Live on This Planet Anymore (6)
I've Seen Enough Hentai (16)
Inception (36)
Inglip (37)
Insanity Wolf (113)
Internet Husband (27)
Joseph Ducreux (75)
Karate Kid (5)
Ladies Love (28)
Lame Pun Coon (57)
Lenin Cat (9)
LOL Jesus (35)
Me Gusta (74)
Memes (1945)
Musically Oblivious 8th Grader (14)
Net Noob (5)
Not Even Once (21)
Nyan Cat (80)
Okay (12)
Paranoid Parrot (86)
Paula Deen Ya'll (9)
Pedobear (97)
Philosoraptor (149)
Picture Is Unrelated (27)
Pokémemes (162)
Poker Face (12)
PTSD Clarinet Kid (21)
QWOP (21)
Rage Comics (615)
Raisins (Super Fuuuu) (62)
Rasta Prof (10)
Rebecca Black (50)
Redneck Randal (3)
Sad Truck (8)
Scene Wolf (40)
Scumbag Brain (13)
Scumbag Steve (68)
Senior Freshman (6)
Sexy Sagan (1)
Sir Courage Wolf Esq. (7)
Socially Awkward Penguin (82)
Spiderman (27)
Stare Dad (39)
Success Kid (62)
Success Nun (12)
Superheroes (64)
Taxmaster (1)
Technologically Impaired Duck (43)
The Internet IRL (41)
The Most Interesting Man in the World (69)
The Shadowlurker (15)
The Sims (18)
Troll Dad (29)
Troll Face (126)
Troll God (17)
Troll Science (73)

Uber Frosh (6)
Very Demotivational (151)
Video (121)
voting-page (386)
Wrong Lyrics Christina (2)
Y U No Guy (174)
Yo Dawg (45)
zuckerberg (32)

Bolded the ones I would think to be scum if any. Duno why others haven't done this yet.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby jonty125 on Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:05 pm

edocsil wrote:Well here is the list.

Admiral Ackbar (9)
Adventure! (5)
Advice Dog (4)
Age of Empires (15)
All the Things! (3)
Anti-Joke Chicken (44)
Art Student Owl (15)
Awww Yeah! (16)
Bad Pickup Line Panda (7)
Bear Grylls (74)
best-of-week (22)
Bill Nye The Science Guy (4)
Bill O'Reilly (18)
Bronies (28)
Business Cat (44)
Captcha (3)
Cereal Guy (34)
Challenge Accepted (40)
Charlie Sheen (19)
Chemistry Cat (8)
Close Enough (15)
Courage Wolf (33)
Creepy Scoutmaster (7)
Dat Ash (22)
Dating Site Murderer (18)
Depression Dog (11)
Derp (23)
Engineering Professor (2)
Forever Alone (173)
Foul Bachelor Frog (96)
Foul Bachelorette Frog (20)
Fry (78)
Good Guy Greg (47)
Gordon Freeman (10)
Happy Kitten (37)
he will never have a girlfriend (19)
High Expectations Asian Dad (38)
Hipster Disney & Friends (51)
Hipster Kitty (111)
Hood Dad (16)
How People View Me (11)
I Don't Want to Live on This Planet Anymore (6)
I've Seen Enough Hentai (16)
Inception (36)
Inglip (37)
Insanity Wolf (113)
Internet Husband (27)
Joseph Ducreux (75)
Karate Kid (5)
Ladies Love (28)
Lame Pun Coon (57)
Lenin Cat (9)
LOL Jesus (35)
Me Gusta (74)
Memes (1945)
Musically Oblivious 8th Grader (14)
Net Noob (5)
Not Even Once (21)
Nyan Cat (80)
Okay (12)
Paranoid Parrot (86)
Paula Deen Ya'll (9)
Pedobear (97)
Philosoraptor (149)
Picture Is Unrelated (27)
Pokémemes (162)
Poker Face (12)
PTSD Clarinet Kid (21)
QWOP (21)
Rage Comics (615)
Raisins (Super Fuuuu) (62)
Rasta Prof (10)
Rebecca Black (50)
Redneck Randal (3)
Sad Truck (8)
Scene Wolf (40)
Scumbag Brain (13)
Scumbag Steve (68)
Senior Freshman (6)
Sexy Sagan (1)
Sir Courage Wolf Esq. (7)
Socially Awkward Penguin (82)
Spiderman (27)
Stare Dad (39)
Success Kid (62)
Success Nun (12)
Superheroes (64)
Taxmaster (1)
Technologically Impaired Duck (43)
The Internet IRL (41)
The Most Interesting Man in the World (69)
The Shadowlurker (15)
The Sims (18)
Troll Dad (29)
Troll Face (126)
Troll God (17)
Troll Science (73)

Uber Frosh (6)
Very Demotivational (151)
Video (121)
voting-page (386)
Wrong Lyrics Christina (2)
Y U No Guy (174)
Yo Dawg (45)
zuckerberg (32)

Bolded the ones I would think to be scum if any. Duno why others haven't done this yet.


What are the numbers and are these users or threads? Because I do not appear on this list.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby Rodion on Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:14 pm

kwanton wrote:yeah activity is flagging. So in an attempt to start a serious discussion:

Since day 1 votes are random and theres really nothing to go on, I like to spend the early parts of the game speculating on setup and possible roles. I've never been to the memebase site myself, so does anyone have an idea of which memes lean town and which lean scum?


I try serious discussion
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Considering this game is heavy with post restrictions and some of them can directly allow you to conclude who has what Meme, I don't think speculating on memes that lean town/scum will do any good. They say "PRs are meant to be fun, not to cripple a player/faction", so trying to directly link one's PR to a character and then to an alignment is full of fail in my opinion.

It's like my deceased mentor "MJ" always told me: "if you want to scumhunt, doesn't matter if you're black or white". Ahhh, how I miss the old times when he'd invite me to his theme park so I could play with everyone there...
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby kwanton on Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:59 pm

I beg to differ Rodion.

Flavor is flavor is flavor. It makes no sense to have a "good" meme be scum. In fact, not speculating on what memes could be scum or town could lead to a mislynch. Especially if we think the roles/alignment would be random as you seem to think

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I think speculation on roles will help us and you seem to be trying to stymie the only attempt at serious fact-finding.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby kwanton on Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:03 pm

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unvote vote rodion

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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby Rodion on Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:12 pm

kwanton wrote:Flavor is flavor is flavor. It makes no sense to have a "good" meme be scum.


So let's just break the game, you say. Obvious posting restrictions that hint at a "good" meme are town. Obvious posting restrictions that hint at an "evil" meme are scum.

/game

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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby strike wolf on Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:52 pm

I'm gonna take the middle ground more or less. Rodion we can never fully eliminate flavor spec from the game. It's not going to happen and it is important. However you are correct on it being difficult to figure this one out based on how many of them there are and that it's rare for a meme to be straight forward. So at this point, I'm saying it may be too early to judge and im trying to wait on that until everyone or close to everyone has confirmed and posted to get an idea of the memes in this game.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby kwanton on Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:57 pm

Rodion wrote:
kwanton wrote:Flavor is flavor is flavor. It makes no sense to have a "good" meme be scum.


So let's just break the game, you say. Obvious posting restrictions that hint at a "good" meme are town. Obvious posting restrictions that hint at an "evil" meme are scum.

/game

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I don't see the purpose of this response. I'm the only one trying to steer the conversation in at least some direction that helps us find scum. I'm not saying we automatically lynch those with scummy PRs. I'm saying we think analytically about what the roles could be. In what way does this hurt us?

Look at it this way. Because post restrictions are so prevalent in this game, we already have half the battle won for us in figuring out what is in the game. Whats the harm in analyzing that information?

My vote stays because of rodion's obvious attempt at stopping a serious attempt at scum-finding.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:11 pm

hey! I've read the thread, seeing we haven't gotten very far, and would like to play! PCM or Com9, please send me my role!

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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:37 pm

Rodion wrote:
kwanton wrote:Flavor is flavor is flavor. It makes no sense to have a "good" meme be scum.


So let's just break the game, you say. Obvious posting restrictions that hint at a "good" meme are town. Obvious posting restrictions that hint at an "evil" meme are scum.

/game

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Wait, man. You saying that, assuming this flavour tactic were "game breaking" (even though it clearly isn't), you'd be against it cause it ruins the fun?

I don't remember you ever expressing such opinions before.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby Rodion on Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:47 pm

kwanton wrote:I don't see the purpose of this response. I'm the only one trying to steer the conversation in at least some direction that helps us find scum. I'm not saying we automatically lynch those with scummy PRs. I'm saying we think analytically about what the roles could be. In what way does this hurt us?

Look at it this way. Because post restrictions are so prevalent in this game, we already have half the battle won for us in figuring out what is in the game. Whats the harm in analyzing that information?

My vote stays because of rodion's obvious attempt at stopping a serious attempt at scum-finding.


I'll tell you why flavour spec could lead us to finding scum in a non-PR heavy game: basically, because mafia is free to fakeclaim and mislead.

Example: we find that mafia in a certain game are the vampires. The vampires players can easily fakeclaim and say they are NOT vampires.

I'll tell you why this particular flavour spec cannot lead to findung scum in a PR-heavy game like this one: basically, because PRs pretty much tie mafia to their "evil" characters in a way they can't possibly deny.

Example: we find that mafia in a certain game are the vampires. Some players have a PR about "loving to suck blood". Do you see how that breaks the game and makes it 0 fun? Do you think PCM and Commander would allow something like that to happen?

The point I am trying to make is that your plan of "let's see which memes are obvscum lolz" is full of fail because most (if not all) memes can't hide who they are. And, considering that, I'm willing to bet anything that PCM/Comm didn't make it obvious and probably put some sort of spin into it.

I'm against your plan because it doesn't look apt to catch scum. Perfect example? Me! My meme is Pedobear, a bear that is constantly seen stalking children due to pedophilia. If you decide to follow your theory of good memes and evil memes it's insta-death for me. Give a little credit do PCM/Comm that they wouldn't make anything obvious like that.

Strike - I'm not exactly against "flavour speculation". I'm against Kwanton's angle of "this meme leans town while this meme leans scum. Hang him!"

Fasposted by Haggis: I did not say "I'm against it because it ruins the fun". I said "it would ruin the fun" and I said "we have experienced mods that would not allow such thing to happen because it would ruin the fun". This is not a VS experimental game.

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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby Rodion on Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:54 pm

Rodion wrote:Fasposted by Haggis: I did not say "I'm against it because it ruins the fun". I said "it would ruin the fun" and I said "we have experienced mods that would not allow such thing to happen because it would ruin the fun". This is not a VS experimental game.

By the way, has anyone seen Justin Bieber? I have unfinished businesses with him!


And I said this in my post last post.

The post you quoted for me had the "you're no fun" directed to Kwanton (and not to a particular "lack of game balance") as part of my "creative" decision of filling my PR requirement.

As in you're no fun because you are an old douche and Fircoal is fun because he is only 17! Where are you, Fir?!
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