[UNKNOWN] Mafia Day 5 - The Disappearance [Abandoned]

[ndrs]

I agree with your posts on Gimli, but maybe it can wait?

Most of all I'd like to hear from the new replacements, and why not start with dazerazer? We havn't heard from that character (blakebowling) since page 20 or so.

Vote dazerazer to get things going.

[Iliad]

ok i get what strike as i have been saying that i am confused and that is the truth. and from what i am reading so are a couple of other people.

and i have revealed enough about my charactor as it is. on i think day 2 or 3 of this game.

Being confused is one thing. Having nothing to add is another.

I think I agree with tonka here, the reason you so reluctant to discuss is maybe because you are afraid of revealing your role or say knowing something you shouldn't, or exposing that you don't know something that town should.
[b]
Vote gimli [/b]as it's one of the better cases to pop up

[strike wolf]

I can mostly agree on the gimli wagon sentiments though I want to look more into both gimli and others before I will be making my vote on anyone.

ok i get what strike as i have been saying that i am confused and that is the truth. and from what i am reading so are a couple of other people.

and i have revealed enough about my charactor as it is. on i think day 2 or 3 of this game.

The unfortunate thing is even if you are confused you aren't gonna learn anything by saying nothing. If you have concerns about someone or something express your opinions on the matter. There are plenty of new players in this game that are confused but they for the most part have made at least some effort to contribute about flavor and/or make cases.

[got tonkaed]

for the record, Id have no issue with hearing more from any of the replacements.

Edoc -do you have any relevant information you want to put forward that you didn't put forward on day 2?

[edocsil]

[quote="got tonkaed"]for the record, Id have no issue with hearing more from any of the replacements.

Edoc -do you have any relevant information you want to put forward that you didn't put forward on day 2?[/quote

Nothing of use with vio's death I have little to offer.

[Commander9]

10 more days.

[got tonkaed]

for the record, Id have no issue with hearing more from any of the replacements.

Edoc -do you have any relevant information you want to put forward that you didn't put forward on day 2?[/quote

Nothing of use with vio's death I have little to offer.

Did you know something about any of her previous targets or who targeted her? It would seem if we could narrow down who was targeting her earlier, we may be able to figure out who bit her or possibly who the shadow is.

[edocsil]

for the record, Id have no issue with hearing more from any of the replacements.

Edoc -do you have any relevant information you want to put forward that you didn't put forward on day 2?[/quote

Nothing of use with vio's death I have little to offer.

Did you know something about any of her previous targets or who targeted her? It would seem if we could narrow down who was targeting her earlier, we may be able to figure out who bit her or possibly who the shadow is.

Ah well, may as well be out with it at this point, it isn't like you can't guess already what kind of role I have. Traker/watcher. I can pick which I use.

N1 Freezie no where
N2 Bleed went no where
N3 Vio went to Tonka

N3 I thought the doc would have protected her and I would be unable to tell the doc from the killer. Sadly I was wrong in my assumption.

[got tonkaed]

All of those more or less make sense I suppose.

We have a fair amount of inactive players.

It may be nice to send out a prod to a few players. It is especially tough to imagine what nagerous or fircoal are doing. Fircoal made one big long post that has proven to be pretty wrong about saf/strike (at least at the time). Nagerous has done nothing of note.

While id currently have little problem staying on gimil because a) he is either going to be of very little help going forward or b) his role is someway a baddie, Id also have little issue with trying to push on either of those two specifically.

[nagerous]

All of those more or less make sense I suppose.

We have a fair amount of inactive players.

It may be nice to send out a prod to a few players. It is especially tough to imagine what nagerous or fircoal are doing. Fircoal made one big long post that has proven to be pretty wrong about saf/strike (at least at the time). Nagerous has done nothing of note.

While id currently have little problem staying on gimil because a) he is either going to be of very little help going forward or b) his role is someway a baddie, Id also have little issue with trying to push on either of those two specifically.

Well, the problem is I would not be adverse to putting pressure on gimli, but then I would possibly be exposed as some form of hypocrite as you illustrated my contributions have not been as effective in this particular game as late.

It seems almost cliche to list inactives, dazerazer, saxlad etc. and use these as primary leads and this is a sign that the game is not progressing as fast as it quite possibly should. If there was more activity, I would have more incentive to post but this game has now been going on three months.

[nagerous]

It is also a little steep of you to call me inactive when I posted on just the previous page, same with fircoal, I feel like you are grasping at straws a lot here to generate a lead.

[nagerous]

From what I remember of SaxLad, he claimed pikachu - and it was somewhat out of the blue, I am still failing to see how this fits in with the theme and I wouldn't be adverse to applying more pressure there to extract information from the fella.

[Talapus]

From what I remember of SaxLad, he claimed pikachu - and it was somewhat out of the blue, I am still failing to see how this fits in with the theme and I wouldn't be adverse to applying more pressure there to extract information from the fella.

This is true, this whole mess happened and blew up back on page 66. At the time there were one or two people who stepped forward and stated it wouldn't make much sense to go along with voting him because he could be jester. Although at the time he also claimed he wasn't a jester, but honestly with a role like that why would you admit it. Bleed_Green even brought some other posts up against sax and laid a vote down on him but with the resistance from others to avoid lynching a possible jester that avenue was changed to go towards more inactives rather then follow up with sax much. As for flavor of the game I completely fail to see how that role even comes close to even being in a story like this. But maybe that's just me.

[strike wolf]

I honestly thought he would be NKed anyways. With bleed day 2 and sax day 3 though it does seem there are some suspicious players that get attention drawn away from them only to never come back up.

[got tonkaed]

It is also a little steep of you to call me inactive when I posted on just the previous page, same with fircoal, I feel like you are grasping at straws a lot here to generate a lead.

posting on the last page out of 80 is not exactly a sufficient argument for quality activity. Its an argument for recent activity, and its cool that you are around again.

The point is, we do not have all that many players who have been involved throughout the game. Strike has carried a lot of the activity out of the living players. Trying to generate a lead isnt a bad idea at all when we don't really have one.

[freezie]

The point is, we do not have all that many players who have been involved throughout the game.

I tried

[got tonkaed]

The point is, we do not have all that many players who have been involved throughout the game.

I tried

it was worth it!

[strike wolf]

It is also a little steep of you to call me inactive when I posted on just the previous page, same with fircoal, I feel like you are grasping at straws a lot here to generate a lead.

posting on the last page out of 80 is not exactly a sufficient argument for quality activity. Its an argument for recent activity, and its cool that you are around again.

The point is, we do not have all that many players who have been involved throughout the game. Strike has carried a lot of the activity out of the living players. Trying to generate a lead isnt a bad idea at all when we don't really have one.

Well right now I am thinking of pressuring bleed (I have a case against him that I haven't yet been able to fully put together yet and honestly, though this part is wifom heavy I wouldn't put it past Rodion to go to extremes to try to distance himself from a known scummate) however if we are to trust edoc and at this point I do because his role seems to fit what I know of flavor, then bleed did not visit anyone which would mean at the very least he is not the shadow unless the shadow is untrackable. So this not only effectively reduces the chances of bleed being scum but demolishes the chances of him being the shadow whom I'm starting to feel should be jumping up the list of whom needs to be killed.

Actually right now flavor seems to point to the shadow (possible sk?) and the remaining vampire are the only two remaining definite anti town roles (though no reason to underestimate scum) with saladin seeming to be more of a wild card.

I initially had town leanings for gimli but those have long since been erased and two of the other people I thought seemed suspicious early on have been replaced (streaker and blakebowling) and it would be unfair to expect their replacements to answer for why their predecessor acted in the manner they did. So the other lead would be thesaxlad whom came up with the odd role claim and the only caution being that he may be a jester.

[Fircoal]

Vote gimil

Having nothing at all to add at this point of the game would seem to be a covering tactic at best. Ndrs, who had not posted for quite some time, added some flavor discussion upon a posting return.

With nothing at all to post, my two assumptions would be either that your character has no special ability (which frankly seems unlikely considering we have not really seen any vanilla roles thus far) or your character cannot divluge anything without incriminating yourself. I find the second possiblity reasonable enough to push this line of inquiry.

I'm gonna tell it straight, this argument is the equivalent of shit. First off have you seen these last few pages cause I'm pretty sure all that's happened on Day 4 is commenting about flavor due to what happened in the scene and a chorus of moans because the "cases" they had aren't very valid because the people that they focused on were replaced. What I haven't seen is a good decent case that spurs up activity. So honestly I don't get what's so wrong about him saying that he has nothing to add at this point. Is it a good thing? No. Should he be trying to at least say something? Yes. But is it much different than what else has been going on in this thread? No. The only difference between his post and other's posts is they're experienced to enough to know to put some random BS in their post so they don't appear that they're inactive.
As for your second point it is also just as illogical. No one has really been giving up much information about their character at this stage so why in the world would he be afraid of giving out information? That's right he wouldn't be. Besides it is very possible that he doesn't have any powers. I mean what do you call those lovers? Powerful? We don't know what powers the Knights of Templar said. Besides Commander said this game would be less crazy. So if we've seen a ton of crazy shouldn't we be expecting more less crazy in those who are alive. So on all accounts it dun add ups.

All of those more or less make sense I suppose.

We have a fair amount of inactive players.

It may be nice to send out a prod to a few players. It is especially tough to imagine what nagerous or fircoal are doing. Fircoal made one big long post that has proven to be pretty wrong about saf/strike (at least at the time). Nagerous has done nothing of note.

While id currently have little problem staying on gimil because a) he is either going to be of very little help going forward or b) his role is someway a baddie, Id also have little issue with trying to push on either of those two specifically.

And here you do it again. Trying to make cases on stuff that doesn't even exist. I mean I've posted stuff in the thread. I posted on the page in front of your post and I posted a good amount earlier. The fact that I didn't happen to post at certain times as already been dealt with. Your "case" of prodding on us is really weak and honestly I bet you could find players who are in bigger need of it than either of us. I think you're trying to get an "easy" lynch on someone who know not to be scum. With everyone else being quiet it opens the stage to open up what ever random BS you want for a lynch. You tried Gimil but not enough got on there so you tried me and Naggy. Your actions show that you want the power of the lynch, and it doesn't matter on what case you get it. This isn't town like. Vote: Tonka

[Commander9]

Sorry for not posting any vote counts - but there should be one tomorrow.

[ndrs]

Brother Cadfael was feeling very uneasy as yet another night came close to it's conclusion. He had enough evidence to know for sure that he found a very important person... And that he could clear him!

and

Ah well, may as well be out with it at this point, it isn't like you can't guess already what kind of role I have. Traker/watcher. I can pick which I use.

N1 Freezie no where
N2 Bleed went no where
N3 Vio went to Tonka

Wouldn't that clear Tonka – unless Edocsil is lying?

[edocsil]

Brother Cadfael was feeling very uneasy as yet another night came close to it's conclusion. He had enough evidence to know for sure that he found a very important person... And that he could clear him!

and

Ah well, may as well be out with it at this point, it isn't like you can't guess already what kind of role I have. Traker/watcher. I can pick which I use.

N1 Freezie no where
N2 Bleed went no where
N3 Vio went to Tonka

Wouldn't that clear Tonka – unless Edocsil is lying?

Vio was a town doc right? How would that clear anyone. That is certainly what flavor seems to say, but its going on a bit of a limb imo.

[strike wolf]

Vio was a town cop and the scene hinted heavily that she had received an innocent result.

[got tonkaed]

She was a detective, so thanks for the vote there fircoal...

To review points:

Gimil - likely a character from France in the 1400's. Assumed by Rodion to be Joan of Arc -subsequently jumped on by nagerous and strike for role fishing. Has not been able to post one argument the entire game. All content has been I don't know what to do. Possibly a Templar but could be any other role really (either town or anti-town) given lack of knowledge about the game. Templar would be an unvote for me in this scenario.

Nagerous - Recently has become more active and is interested in pushing on Saxlad. Saxlad has claimed pikachu and has infact used pikachu in every single post he has made in the game suggesting a post restriction. Talapus, myself, and I believe either Bleed or strike argued against his lynch because it seemed likely he would be a jester. There was some suggestion of him being NK'd, but Vig apparently shot Doom instead.

Fircoal - Posted a big long post about why mason doc saf and Strike were both bad (and was half right, though even at that point saf had been lycanized and probably didnt start the game as a baddie). Decided to defend Gimil because I mentioned his name in a post and his feelings got hurt. Also decided to vote for me despite the fact that Edoc and flavor have more or less cleared me. Also has decided all living roles must not really be that powerful when it is pretty clear there is at least the shadow, the demon hunter, and at least one vampire alive. This is without any possible extra abilities templars may or may not have along with Saladin.

Basically Fircoal is wrong every time he posts. The reason for the Fircoal and nagerous prod was because due to flavor it was more than likely they sent in actions that were anti-town. I would lean stronger towards Fircoal being the one who sent the action and not nagerous, but it is not as if it is an airtight post.

unvote gimil
Vote fircoal

[gimli1990]

you know Got Tonka'd even though i had nothing to add just a couple of days ago i do now.

just to be sure firstUnvote
Vote Got tonka

reason's being.

A. you have accused 3 different of random stuff in the last 3 pages.
B. and now you are going after fircaol with some stuff.
c. you then say you are willing to hear more from other replacements but leave your vote on me at that point
d. you come out attacking me for trying to stay active. grant it i posted nothing useful but i still did.

and i FOS at iilad he basically votes me and then says it is because i added nothing. did he add anything??