Actors Mafia Endgame: Town Wins

[Rodion]

Vote Safari.

Trying to convert a joke wagon into a claim with about a week left in the (soft) deadline? What's wrong with waiting a little more to see if there are actual scumtells? Or the usual Safari-style going for an inactive?

Fastposted by Edoc and Zimmah: FOS Zimmah for the same reason.

[drunkmonkey]

unvote vote safari

Rodion pretty much said it. Pressuring me to claim this early because I got a few joke votes?

[safariguy5]

unvote vote safari

Rodion pretty much said it. Pressuring me to claim this early because I got a few joke votes?

Well, sooner or later, someone is going to have to get pressured. One case is as good as another to me. But given who's playing in this game, I don't see a major scumtell developing. Deadline is deadline, and given the recent amount of activity in the forum, the earlier we can establish a claim, the more time we have to pursue other leads. The last thing I want to happen is a Egyptian Pantheon scenario where we basically wring a claim out right before deadline. That doesn't help.

[new guy1]

wildwilliam, what sort of claim is it to say "im joining the bandwagon, so i must be scum"... what part of a bandwagon is scum, im just doing what everyone is doing on day one, taking a guess so we can get some evidence to go off of...

[strike wolf]

[quote="strike wolf"]The Count of Votes

Edocsil (1)-victor
Sound
Rodion (1)-edocsil
Spiesr
PCM (2)-spiesr, sound
Drunkmonkey (4)-Floresdesmal, newguy1, safari, zimmah
conzocool (2)-conzocool, Bgthebrain
wildwill
blakebowling (1)-blakebowling
newguy (1)-will
Shaggy (1)-Mob
Safari (2)-Rody, drunk

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline in roughly 7 days.

Jonty Replaces Gillipig.

[jonty125]

Jonty confirms and is reading the thread.

[jonty125]

I don't think saf pressuring warrants a vote as I'm in the Egyptian game so things were messy there but we still have a week till a soft deadline and I know no lynches are hated around here but at the moment there are no major scumtells so a no lynch appears to be on the cards.

[spiesr]

Well, sooner or later, someone is going to have to get pressured. One case is as good as another to me. But given who's playing in this game, I don't see a major scumtell developing. Deadline is deadline, and given the recent amount of activity in the forum, the earlier we can establish a claim, the more time we have to pursue other leads. The last thing I want to happen is a Egyptian Pantheon scenario where we basically wring a claim out right before deadline. That doesn't help.

Safariguy makes an excellent point. He is right that we need to make real discussion, and that the sooner we go about it the better off we will be. However, he also must know that doing something to force discussion, particularly in such an inelegant way, will naturally earn him the ire and votes of others. Fortunately this is also discussion, so at least we are getting something...

[Conzocool]

unvote Vote Drunkmonkey might as well keep up the pressure.

[spiesr]

unvote Vote Drunkmonkey might as well keep up the pressure.

For what reason do you feel that drunkmonkey needs to be pressured?

[MoB Deadly]

FOS Conzocool for BW voting drunkmonkey

[Victor Sullivan]

unvote vote zimmah

Safari's post didn't strike me as scummy, but zimmah's hopping on the bandwagon did. Safari justified his vote (overall, the post kind of struck me as an eager Vanilla, but that's purely speculation), but zimmah just blatantly bandwagoned, piggybacking on saf's reasoning with BS (or so it seems to me).

-Sully

[Victor Sullivan]

EBWOP: Conzocool is kind of a newb, so I think I can let him off the hook. Next time, though, you better watch it, or else I'll take you out with the garbage

-Sully

[zimmah]

EBWOP: Conzocool is kind of a newb, so I think I can let him off the hook. Next time, though, you better watch it, or else I'll take you out with the garbage

-Sully

you just love voting me, don't you.

i think i explained my vote enough, considering it's still early day 1

[Conzocool]

Yeesh, this is harder than I thought...

[strike wolf]

I agree with everything that has been said so far. Even the things that would blatantly contradict each other.

The Count of Votes

Edocsil
Sound
Rodion (1)-edocsil
Spiesr
PCM (2)-spiesr, sound
Drunkmonkey (5)-Floresdesmal, newguy1, safari, zimmah, conzo
conzocool (1)-Bgthebrain
wildwill
blakebowling (1)-blakebowling
newguy (1)-will
Shaggy (1)-Mob
Safari (2)-Rody, drunk
Zimmah (1)-victor

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline in roughly 6 days.

[jonty125]

unvote Vote Drunkmonkey might as well keep up the pressure.

I'll let you off the hook as your new, I'm a fairly recent addition and was let off the hook for blunders like these, but don't let me catch you doing this again or I will vote you.

About zimmah, I don't know about his experience but he does make his post look a little bit less than just jumping on the BW.

[drunkmonkey]

About zimmah, I don't know about his experience but he does make his post look a little bit less than just jumping on the BW.

Not sure how - he just repeated what safari said. Pointing out that you're joining a bandwagon doesn't make it less scummy. I've got an FOS on him as well. If we're looking for someone to pressure, I think a bandwagon-jumper makes more sense than picking someone at random.

[BGtheBrain]

****

[zimmah]

About zimmah, I don't know about his experience but he does make his post look a little bit less than just jumping on the BW.

Not sure how - he just repeated what safari said. Pointing out that you're joining a bandwagon doesn't make it less scummy. I've got an FOS on him as well. If we're looking for someone to pressure, I think a bandwagon-jumper makes more sense than picking someone at random.

just pointing out, this is just my usually day 1 playing style. go look on all other mafia games i have been in on their day 1, i ALWAYS BW day 1. scum or not.

[wildwilliam]

wildwilliam, what sort of claim is it to say "im joining the bandwagon, so i must be scum"... what part of a bandwagon is scum, im just doing what everyone is doing on day one, taking a guess so we can get some evidence to go off of...

you seem a little defensive for a bunch of joke votes going around.

[safariguy5]

Well yes, technically we have to bandwagon for ANY case in order to actually lynch someone. And yes, Day 1 cases tend to be quite weak in comparison to later ones. I don't necessarily have a problem with a bandwagon from someone, but if they start jumping on every single new lead, then that sets my scumdar off.

[new guy1]

wildwilliam, what sort of claim is it to say "im joining the bandwagon, so i must be scum"... what part of a bandwagon is scum, im just doing what everyone is doing on day one, taking a guess so we can get some evidence to go off of...

you seem a little defensive for a bunch of joke votes going around.

sorry, didnt know you were just kidding

[FloresDelMal]

Okay pancake, riddle me this. Shield was going to say something scummy. We all know that anyone who says something scummy is automatically 100% scum. Shield seems to have changed into you. Therefor you must be scum right? It is inevitable, so you might as well just die now and save us the time..

This, This I like!

sound logic but seems a bit too easy and a bit too forced, not everything that shines is gold, so FOS edoc

Pcm is first on replace list. I will be sending him shield's role pm when I get back to my comp. Other than that I still have 3 people who haven't confirmed and will probably be seeking replacements for them as well. So yes if frenchie is available...

i tried my best for persuade him but nothing

[jonty125]

Okay pancake, riddle me this. Shield was going to say something scummy. We all know that anyone who says something scummy is automatically 100% scum. Shield seems to have changed into you. Therefor you must be scum right? It is inevitable, so you might as well just die now and save us the time..

This, This I like!

sound logic but seems a bit too easy and a bit too forced, not everything that shines is gold, so FOS edoc

If I'm not mistaken edoc did have shield foed once and has serious hatred toward him so this is edoc being edoc. And not everything that shines is gold well my teeth shine