Conquer Club

There is something wrong with the current rating system. Since people can see who left which rating, people can adjust the rating given to something more similar to their received rating. This results in people leaving honest ratings receiving lower ratings on average, and people who just always leave 3x 5 stars get higher ratings back.

For example: a while ago i played a game in which after some time 2 other players and me were left. It looked like one of the other players (from now on called 'gray') was going to take the win but since we both were fighting him we restored the balance, and I ended up winning that game. The last few rounds though, when I was obviously winning and just playing it out, gray did not take any turns anymore, letting the other player and me waiting multiple rounds. It very much seemed like he just quit because he was angry he suddenly lost. Now I don't judge too quickly, he might have been away and not have time to play any moves, so I decided to check his other games. Turned out he was happily playing moves in those games, so he was intentionally skipping turns in our game. After the game I rated him 2star fairplay, 5star gameplay, and 2 star attitude, with tags 'quitter' and 'balanced play'. A while after I left my rating on him he left me a shit rating (even on gameplay!) with no reason. Also note that this guy wasn't a random noob, but ranked Major.

Now I understand one bad rating left isn't that bad, but the worst part is I understand his actions. He sees my (honest) 'bad' rating and he retaliates with his (less honest) bad rating. And when there is an understandable reason to do bad there is something wrong with the system.

That's why I propose to hide the names of players who left ratings on someone. This way there is no retaliating and no drawback for leaving honest ratings.
Let me know what you think!

Once your rating appears on someone else, this person isn't allowed to give you a rating anymore.
Except if you played another game against that major, because then he could give you a rating for that other game, he left you the bad rating before he even saw yours.

The only thing I use the rating system for is the following. If I see you have a bad rating, I look to see what kind of ratings you give. It is probably not suprising that most who give poor ratings, feel the need to add many comments. And I think I get a good sense of who to steer away from. If you only have a few games and a low rating I can be fairly sure it is not you if you generally give out nice ratings. After a few months/years (do the math to figure number of games) a bad rating will not affect your score. 1 or 2 a-holes out of 1000 ratings doesn't move the number.

ratings are stupid & pointless.

Donelladan wrote:Once your rating appears on someone else, this person isn't allowed to give you a rating anymore.
Except if you played another game against that major, because then he could give you a rating for that other game, he left you the bad rating before he even saw yours.

You can leave ratings via the "Eliminated" and "Recently Finished" sections of the "Central Command" page. You may only leave ratings for members you played with from the moment you are done with the game until the game is archived (5-6 days after completion). Once the game is archived the rating cannot be changed unless you play the member again, at which point you may revise your rating to reflect any changes in opinion. Only when the game is archived will the new or changed rating appear - this is to prevent revenge ratings. You can withdraw ratings at any time on the "Ratings Left" section of your ratings page.

Just rate everyone as low as you can every time and you will be fine.

Hooch wrote:

Donelladan wrote:Only when the game is archived will the new or changed rating appear - this is to prevent revenge ratings.

Thanks for the explanation! That convinced me the system is good (but not entirely waterproof). Apparently he was just a bit salty he didn't win from a nearly won position...