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Something Needs to be Done w/ Josko's Account

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:03 pm
by iAmCaffeine
If he's back to play then he needs a point reset. You can't let a two time conqueror and arguably the best player on this site resume playing with 400pts. Even from 1000pts would be bad enough but it's an improvement. He should also be disqualified from the monthly leaderboards.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=228608

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:14 pm
by riskllama
hahaha, probly a good idea yeah.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:36 pm
by Extreme Ways
iAmCaffeine wrote:If he's back to play then he needs a point reset. You can't let a two time conqueror and arguably the best player on this site resume playing with 400pts. Even from 1000pts would be bad enough but it's an improvement. He should also be disqualified from the monthly leaderboards.

File a db report and you got it, but it would be great (for other players) if he could be reset to smth like 2500.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:05 am
by Donelladan
iAmCaffeine wrote:If he's back to play then he needs a point reset. You can't let a two time conqueror and arguably the best player on this site resume playing with 400pts. Even from 1000pts would be bad enough but it's an improvement. He should also be disqualified from the monthly leaderboards.


He should be subjected to exactly the same rule than everyone else.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:25 am
by iAmCaffeine
Donelladan wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:If he's back to play then he needs a point reset. You can't let a two time conqueror and arguably the best player on this site resume playing with 400pts. Even from 1000pts would be bad enough but it's an improvement. He should also be disqualified from the monthly leaderboards.


He should be subjected to exactly the same rule than everyone else.

What would that entail do you think?

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:32 am
by Extreme Ways
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Donelladan wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:If he's back to play then he needs a point reset. You can't let a two time conqueror and arguably the best player on this site resume playing with 400pts. Even from 1000pts would be bad enough but it's an improvement. He should also be disqualified from the monthly leaderboards.


He should be subjected to exactly the same rule than everyone else.

What would that entail do you think?

Point dumping is the better one.

Accused:

josko.ri

The accused are suspected of:
Point dumping



Game number(s):
All the games finished in the past 2 months

Comments:
For some unknown private reason, Josko suddenly left the site for a while. It appears he's back but he dropped some 3k points.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:47 am
by iAmCaffeine
He's not even back I don't think. Needs a temporary ban put on his account. I've made a C&A thread.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:58 am
by betiko
i don't really see any solution to this. anyways, reseting it to 1000 is dumb cause he can do it in the span of 7-8 speed games. who cares. do people care when a high ranker plays a doodle against a stripper and gets +70pts loss? the points mean jack shit anyways.
I've lost 500 points in a few days for playing speed games, was almost back to general and i m now a colonel. this system means jack shit. you can't play games for fun and games competitively. and games for fun have much bigger impact on your score than competitive games. that's one of the reasons why i feel like quitting this once i'm done with the CC8. the game restricts you from playing for fun on stupid settings and to be competitive at the same time.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:02 am
by iAmCaffeine
I agree with half of what you said and the other half is irrelevant.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:02 am
by Extreme Ways
betiko wrote:i don't really see any solution to this. anyways, reseting it to 1000 is dumb cause he can do it in the span of 7-8 speed games. who cares. do people care when a high ranker plays a doodle against a stripper and gets +70pts loss? the points mean jack shit anyways.
I've lost 500 points in a few days for playing speed games, was almost back to general and i m now a colonel. this system means jack shit. you can't play games for fun and games competitively. and games for fun have much bigger impact on your score than competitive games. that's one of the reasons why i feel like quitting this once i'm done with the CC8. the game restricts you from playing for fun on stupid settings and to be competitive at the same time.

If I would have 5 waiting games and Josko would join all 5, me winning 2/5, I would be pissed as hell for losing me almost 300 points. I don't care much about points, but that doesnt mean I want to throw them away.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:05 am
by nietzsche
do people even care anymore?

at this point you should let him go for an uber monthly improvement %.

that's probably the only thing he has left to play for here.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:05 am
by nietzsche
i'm just saying, i don't give a shit either way.

but probably he would be really nasty if someone else did this.. so make him suffer.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:36 am
by iAmCaffeine
nietzsche wrote:i'm just saying, i don't give a shit either way.

but probably he would be really nasty if someone else did this.. so make him suffer.

He has reported people in the past for similar. I'm not doing that, but I do think his account should be temporarily banned.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:41 am
by Donelladan
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Donelladan wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:If he's back to play then he needs a point reset. You can't let a two time conqueror and arguably the best player on this site resume playing with 400pts. Even from 1000pts would be bad enough but it's an improvement. He should also be disqualified from the monthly leaderboards.


He should be subjected to exactly the same rule than everyone else.

What would that entail do you think?


Well , actually nothing.

When someone leave the site for personal reason, then his score drop. If they come back, we welcome them back.

Unless you think it was all a scheme from Josko to get the most improved medal, I don't see why we should do anything about it.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:43 am
by rockfist
He left for personal reasons.

If he was trying to manipulate the "most improved" medal I can assure you he would not do it when S&M was facing TOFU in a clan war. I've never been in S&M but I'd bet my left arm they want to beat us just as bad as we want to beat them.

We should welcome him back.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:56 am
by Extreme Ways
Donelladan wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Donelladan wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:If he's back to play then he needs a point reset. You can't let a two time conqueror and arguably the best player on this site resume playing with 400pts. Even from 1000pts would be bad enough but it's an improvement. He should also be disqualified from the monthly leaderboards.


He should be subjected to exactly the same rule than everyone else.

What would that entail do you think?


Well , actually nothing.

When someone leave the site for personal reason, then his score drop. If they come back, we welcome them back.

Unless you think it was all a scheme from Josko to get the most improved medal, I don't see why we should do anything about it.

It's still point dumping though.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:09 am
by Donelladan
Extreme Ways wrote:It's still point dumping though.



I don't think so. It is point dumping only if it is intentional.

Many people have left the site and come back later, lost tons of points in the process, no one accused them of point dumping. Only difference is we don't care about those other players, we don't notice them.

Also there is the auto tournament issue, but it's not josko's fault, it's the auto tournament fault for giving new games to deadbeaters.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:40 am
by iAmCaffeine
rockfist wrote:He left for personal reasons.

If he was trying to manipulate the "most improved" medal I can assure you he would not do it when S&M was facing TOFU in a clan war. I've never been in S&M but I'd bet my left arm they want to beat us just as bad as we want to beat them.

We should welcome him back.

Who is your post directed at? I never mentioned trying to manipulate anything and I'm well aware of why he isn't playing. My point is that it's unfair for him and everyone else involved to be playing on 400pts and to also still be getting put into auto-tournaments.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:55 am
by rockfist
My point was a general point. It wasn't directed at anyone in particular.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:04 am
by iAmCaffeine
So you think it's okay for him to keep being entered into auto-tournaments whilst not playing turns?

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:29 pm
by Donelladan
iAmCaffeine wrote:So you think it's okay for him to keep being entered into auto-tournaments whilst not playing turns?


Topic title is "Reset Josko's Points".

I totally agree with you that he shouldn't be entered into auto tournament ( or anyone else for that matter ), but that wasn't the topic of the thread...

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:35 pm
by iAmCaffeine
Updated.

Re: Reset Josko's Points

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:16 pm
by Symmetry
iAmCaffeine wrote:Updated.


You've also accused him of cheating and/or abuse of the rules.

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=228608

Re: Something Needs to be Done w/ Josko's Account

PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:47 am
by iAmCaffeine
I didn’t accuse him of anything and I already put that link in my post. Troll somewhere else.

Re: Something Needs to be Done w/ Josko's Account

PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:56 am
by shoop76
I think it is very interesting when this happens. I did the same thing about a year ago. Was totally burnt out on cc and had some rl issues. Was also in a bunch of autotournaments and my score dropped a lot. Would be great to have some system in place for these tournaments though I know it would be difficult to do so mid tourney.