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Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:02 pm
by Dukasaur
Does anybody know what happens in an Assassin game if your target gets killed by a killer neutral?

I've looked through more than 200 games and haven't found one where this happened.

I'm thinking it should give you the win as if someone else killed your target for you, but I see an alternative possibility that it would treat the player as a deadbeat and just give you a new target.

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:07 pm
by TeeGee
Dukasaur wrote:Does anybody know what happens in an Assassin game if your target gets killed by a killer neutral?

I've looked through more than 200 games and haven't found one where this happened.

I'm thinking it should give you the win as if someone else killed your target for you, but I see an alternative possibility that it would treat the player as a deadbeat and just give you a new target.


I am 99% sure you would win.. maybe we can test this on the beta site?

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:08 pm
by king achilles
It will likely still follow the rule that whoever has that target who got eliminated will win.

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:31 pm
by Mad777
Dukasaur wrote:Does anybody know what happens in an Assassin game if your target gets killed by a killer neutral?

I've looked through more than 200 games and haven't found one where this happened.

I'm thinking it should give you the win as if someone else killed your target for you, but I see an alternative possibility that it would treat the player as a deadbeat and just give you a new target.

I believe it give you the win, I think I have killed a target by nucking him/her, which should be the same outcome as a killer neutral.

Deadbeat scenario should be based on missing turn only....but I could be wrong.

Interesting question though...

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:34 pm
by Mad777
TeeGee wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Does anybody know what happens in an Assassin game if your target gets killed by a killer neutral?

I've looked through more than 200 games and haven't found one where this happened.

I'm thinking it should give you the win as if someone else killed your target for you, but I see an alternative possibility that it would treat the player as a deadbeat and just give you a new target.


I am 99% sure you would win.. maybe we can test this on the beta site?


I will see if I can do a beta test tomorrow and report back ;)

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:46 pm
by DoomYoshi
I don't have an answer, but I do have a -

Fun fact: what do speed games, assassin games, trench warfare, tournaments and the monthly challenges have in common?

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Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:00 am
by shoop76
I was actually wondering what would happen if you nuke your last territory and your targets last territory in the same set. Or for that matter nuke another player's target in that set.

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:32 am
by DoomYoshi
shoop76 wrote:I was actually wondering what would happen if you nuke your last territory and your targets last territory in the same set. Or for that matter nuke another player's target in that set.

Whichever card is oldest takes precedence.

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:36 am
by hjelp
I prefer this

Dukasaur wrote:
...I'm thinking it should give you the win as if someone else killed your target for you ...


8-)

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:38 am
by Mad777
Mad777 wrote:
TeeGee wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Does anybody know what happens in an Assassin game if your target gets killed by a killer neutral?

I've looked through more than 200 games and haven't found one where this happened.

I'm thinking it should give you the win as if someone else killed your target for you, but I see an alternative possibility that it would treat the player as a deadbeat and just give you a new target.


I am 99% sure you would win.. maybe we can test this on the beta site?


I will see if I can do a beta test tomorrow and report back ;)


Tested a game in Beta site

https://beta.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=15867527

win goes to the player who had you as a target...

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:42 am
by Dukasaur
Mad777 wrote:
Mad777 wrote:
TeeGee wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Does anybody know what happens in an Assassin game if your target gets killed by a killer neutral?

I've looked through more than 200 games and haven't found one where this happened.

I'm thinking it should give you the win as if someone else killed your target for you, but I see an alternative possibility that it would treat the player as a deadbeat and just give you a new target.


I am 99% sure you would win.. maybe we can test this on the beta site?


I will see if I can do a beta test tomorrow and report back ;)


Tested a game in Beta site

https://beta.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=15867527

win goes to the player who had you as a target...


Thanks for running the test. To be 100% clear -- the player who had the eliminated player as the target, correct?

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:58 am
by Mad777
Dukasaur wrote:
Mad777 wrote:
Mad777 wrote:
TeeGee wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Does anybody know what happens in an Assassin game if your target gets killed by a killer neutral?

I've looked through more than 200 games and haven't found one where this happened.

I'm thinking it should give you the win as if someone else killed your target for you, but I see an alternative possibility that it would treat the player as a deadbeat and just give you a new target.


I am 99% sure you would win.. maybe we can test this on the beta site?


I will see if I can do a beta test tomorrow and report back ;)


Tested a game in Beta site

https://beta.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=15867527

win goes to the player who had you as a target...


Thanks for running the test. To be 100% clear -- the player who had the eliminated player as the target, correct?


Yes, in this game I was blue's target, I killed myself using neutral killer and blue won the game, I tried to upload the image but this site don't .png file (used a screen shot with my iPad)

2018-08-30 10:35:39 - Incrementing game to round 4
2018-08-30 10:36:00 - Mad777 lost Ball 6 to neutral player
2018-08-30 10:36:00 - neutral player eliminated Mad777 from the game
2018-08-30 10:36:00 - cc_tester_9 won the game

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:50 pm
by Jdsizzleslice
Game 10748342 happened many years ago, seems to be accurate.

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:09 pm
by Dukasaur
Jdsizzleslice wrote:Game 10748342 happened many years ago, seems to be accurate.


Thank you!

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:52 pm
by Swifte
Game 17426319 Was excited to find one :)

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:58 pm
by Dukasaur
Swifte wrote:Game 17426319 Was excited to find one :)

Cool stuff.

DoomYoshi wrote:I don't have an answer, but I do have a -

Fun fact: what do speed games, assassin games, trench warfare, tournaments and the monthly challenges have in common?

show

Yup, the community is always the best source!

Re: Assassins and Killer Neutrals

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:40 pm
by Mokerslag
Im totaly agree with you, so they should take this and apply the mf thing ;)