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A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:07 pm
by DoomYoshi
Chapter 1: McGill, 2006

At first it was only Lack. Then it was Lack and his friend Twill (added as Community Manager May 7). Twill moved to Seattle at some point, but that won't matter until chapter 3.
May 22, 2006 - Andy Dufresne started as Foundry Foreman.
May 28, 2006 - there was the first "mod callout" here
This was a substantial thread for a few reasons. One of which is the response - 15 potential moderators. People wanted to participate in the life of the site (and they still do). There are two fundamental approaches to volunteer team building. One is top-down, in which you find a need and then look for someone to fill it. That's what they did in this thread. However, the seed was set. Because there was a lot of demand, they started finding jobs for the extra people to do - that's the bottom-up forum building, and usually works a lot better. You can see almost right away that the top down approach didn't work. They took so long trying to get a moderator that the Grievance system was long gone. It's also a fun thread because it has some gloomy foreshadowing of "chapter 3".
For an aside - the site started with an ignore list which was dropped for a grievance system. Then the grievance system was dropped and the ignore was brought back and a Feedback. then Feedback became Ratings and the Ignore List became Foe List.
June 17, 2006 - moz976 becomes a forum mod. He moved a few threads and then wasn't a mod and then was again and then he became the first Suggs & Bugs mod. He also helped write the very first community guidelines (credited as coauthor with Twill, and input from Andy and Lack). Those didn't come out until October though. Here they are:
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August 11 Scarus was added and HighBorn became the first Tournament Director. September 28 AK_Iceman became a partner Tournament Director (there was no department head, they were both on equal footing). Well that was the official story although the truth is that Highborn was starting to burn out. His last tournament was abandoned. Highborn joined in February and by September had already posted 3000 times (those were the Bushwackers days too). So most people recognize and remember iceman as the original TD. That isn't entirely true, but it's close enough. By the end of the year Hugh.G.Rection had joined but once again he basically just flaked out without doing anything.

October 22 there was a big shuffle. Twill released the Community Guidelines (see above) then stepped down to a regular moderator. Andy became "Zoo Keeper" instead of Community Manager (but he was still Foundry Foreman too). This was also when moz became the S/B mod.

November 23, 2006 Scarus retired and then there was also the first 3 multi hunters: sully800, Master Bush and Fireside Poet

I didn't really talk about Andy this month. He'll get a big summary in chapter 4. However, almost 30 maps came through the pipe in this first year!

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:17 pm
by riskllama
can i reserve an advance copy, DY?

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:22 pm
by xroads
Great thank you.

I really didnt follow tje behind the scenes much back then, i just wanted to play a ton of games.

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:36 pm
by TeeGee
nice summary DY

Very well put together

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:23 pm
by haley121
sounds great!

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:14 am
by DoomYoshi
riskllama wrote:can i reserve an advance copy, DY?


Sure. I'm a bit worried about chapter 3 though. That's going to be the hardest one to write. Maybe owen can write it.

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:47 am
by Symmetry

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:43 am
by BrutalBob
Thanks Doom Yoshi. Always interested in a little site history.

Just curious, but how do you know all this early days stuff?

Also, we should bring back feedback. I liked that

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:38 am
by KoolBak
Scarus is one of our xigames founders...15 years ago? He still plays once and a while but is busy.

And Yosh-monster....I believe you are confusing Twill with wicked and the seattle move? Always loved bantering with him and his brother who was very active here as well. Raging liberal and an old redneck....we hit it off great....lmao.

Assuming Wacicha will make it into your story. Visits once and a while but hes on to bigger and better things. He actually came up and went camping with us last summer....very cool.

Like the story brother!

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:43 pm
by DoomYoshi
KoolBak wrote:Scarus is one of our xigames founders...15 years ago? He still plays once and a while but is busy.

And Yosh-monster....I believe you are confusing Twill with wicked and the seattle move? Always loved bantering with him and his brother who was very active here as well. Raging liberal and an old redneck....we hit it off great....lmao.

Assuming Wacicha will make it into your story. Visits once and a while but hes on to bigger and better things. He actually came up and went camping with us last summer....very cool.

Like the story brother!


I'm not confusing them. They both lived in Seattle which is one of the reasons things went crazy.

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:44 pm
by DoomYoshi
BrutalBob wrote:Thanks Doom Yoshi. Always interested in a little site history.

Just curious, but how do you know all this early days stuff?

Also, we should bring back feedback. I liked that


It's all in the forum.

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:42 am
by riskllama
the feedback forum?

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:53 pm
by nietzsche
where's the second part??

first interesting thread you ever make and you make us wait..

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:11 am
by Hooch
BrutalBob wrote:Thanks Doom Yoshi. Always interested in a little site history.

Just curious, but how do you know all this early days stuff?

Also, we should bring back feedback. I liked that

Indeed.

I preferred feedback to ratings.

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:57 am
by 2dimes
Feedback was at least amusing on occasion. Ratings are blatantly useless.

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:43 pm
by iAmCaffeine
I was never around for feedback but always felt like I missed out.

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:21 pm
by BrutalBob
iAmCaffeine wrote:I was never around for feedback but always felt like I missed out.


I am sure you could probably imagine what it was like. Try and use that part of your brain that gives you a near perfect recollection of flame wars

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:35 pm
by iAmCaffeine
BrutalBob wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:I was never around for feedback but always felt like I missed out.


I am sure you could probably imagine what it was like. Try and use that part of your brain that gives you a near perfect recollection of flame wars

I also never got to see flame wars in its glory days.

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:59 am
by nietzsche
chapter 2??

stop typing allegorical posts on other subforums and finish this DY.

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:57 pm
by riskllama
yeah.

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:32 pm
by jfm10
bump...just trying to get chapter 2 on-line.please remember it doom yoshi ,it is a very good read.Thank You.

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:42 pm
by DoomYoshi
jfm10 wrote:bump...just trying to get chapter 2 on-line.please remember it doom yoshi ,it is a very good read.Thank You.


Ok, I do actually have some time in the next few weeks, so I might do this again.

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:08 am
by The ram
In the condensed version who's fault is it for the decline?

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:18 am
by nietzsche
still waiting for Chapter 2.


but of course DY would do this. Only to go against people's wishes. If everyone had hated this, he would be in chapter 20 already.

Re: A brief history of immoderation: Chapter 1

PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:35 pm
by owenshooter
all that crap is nuts and bolts, it isn't what was really "making" the site at the time OR what the moderation was really like. the community was vibrant, it was the fucking wild, wild west and people were PASSIONATE!!! from the first public case of a CC'er "STEALING" wi-fi from a library in anchorage, to Wicked's demise and her attempt to bring down the site.

sprinkle some massive cheating by blitzaholic and people like Dancing Mustard owning the moderators and admins to such a degree, they literally invented a way to ban him (kind of like the owenshooter made up bans, "oh, we forgot to unban you for that additional 6 months despite daily contact from your clan and e-tickets from you... oops...")... CC moderators were children being beaten to a pulp by ADULTS that had big words and bigger minds. OHHHH, the glory days!!!

THIS IS WHAT CC W@AS!!!!


bask in the glory!!!-Jésus noir