Conquer Club

giving someone premium--when does flat out cash not count

Postby dyrtydog on Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:56 am
why not pay the $30 flat out to buy someone a membership instead of stupid buying credit bs..? lets just give you the money and be over it.

ive never worked so hard to give you money.

BS buying a membership

------You've been here since 2007 and are a SoC trainer. You must have missed these threads on subscriptions and C.C.. There are a few more. But I'm bringing the last 2 to the top for you. Hope it helps. "Did you know to renewal premium or gifting one(costs more) is a subscription now?" I know they have dice stats on the panel. But took away the UPGRADE spot and the picture of a gift for those who wanted to give one. You're correct it is a lot of work to try and give them your money. Then they hope you forget about it.ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).

ConfederateSS wrote:------You've been here since 2007 and are a SoC trainer. You must have missed these threads on subscriptions and C.C..

no, probably just drank the kool-aid like the rest of the volunteers on the site... you know, we are all just whiners and complainers with nothing new to say... odd how we have ranted and raged against all of these changes and found nothing but defiance from the jr. mint mod squad and volunteers... now, we have a volunteer posting about these practices we have been trying to have changed, as if they are new!!!! this is freaking unbelievable!!! it is like nobody is listening@!!-Jésus noir

do you understand the words that are comin' outta my mouth?!!

owenshooter wrote:

ConfederateSS wrote:------You've been here since 2007 and are a SoC trainer. You must have missed these threads on subscriptions and C.C..

this is freaking unbelievable!!! it is like nobody is listening@!!-Jésus noir

do you understand the words that are comin' outta my mouth?!!

that's because nobody is listening

so basically, let me understand this nonsense...

if i buy myself a membership its 30....but to buy someone else one (which brings business to this site) i have to spend 50 for 3500 credits...

this is ludicrous

not a great way to run a business.

Its like going to Dennys...buy myself a grandslam breakfast for 8.99 but for me to buy my friend a grandslam breakfast, i first need to purchase dennys credits for 15.

Apparently 2 threads on the same topic in different places wasn't enough...go for three!

The answer lies in one of your other topics. It's the same price as your premium not more.
More details on your other thread

IcePack wrote:The answer lies in one of your other topics. It's the same price as your premium not more.
More details on your other thread

That hides the truth, let's be honest. You cannot purchase premium for another member at the same price as yourself as you have to purchase a set number of credits, which results in leftovers and more money.

owenshooter wrote:now, we have a volunteer posting about these practices we have been trying to have changed

A SoC trainer doesn't qualify as a volunteer.

iAmCaffeine wrote:

IcePack wrote:The answer lies in one of your other topics. It's the same price as your premium not more.
More details on your other thread

That hides the truth, let's be honest. You cannot purchase premium for another member at the same price as yourself as you have to purchase a set number of credits, which results in leftovers and more money.

owenshooter wrote:now, we have a volunteer posting about these practices we have been trying to have changed

A SoC trainer doesn't qualify as a volunteer.

To purchase 12 month premium it is exactly the same price for you or someone else, UNLESS you choose to subscribe and get the discount. Yes you have to get more credits etc but that's not what I said, I was specifically addressing the specific number of credits are equal for you or others. Not hiding anything you & everyone else are happy to point out the purchase quantities, I'm talking about whether you have 3500 credits or 10,000 credits in your account, it'll cost the same to get 12 month for you or someone else.

IcePack wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:

IcePack wrote:The answer lies in one of your other topics. It's the same price as your premium not more.
More details on your other thread

That hides the truth, let's be honest. You cannot purchase premium for another member at the same price as yourself as you have to purchase a set number of credits, which results in leftovers and more money.

owenshooter wrote:now, we have a volunteer posting about these practices we have been trying to have changed

A SoC trainer doesn't qualify as a volunteer.

To purchase 12 month premium it is exactly the same price for you or someone else, UNLESS you choose to subscribe and get the discount. Yes you have to get more credits etc but that's not what I said, I was specifically addressing the specific number of credits are equal for you or others. Not hiding anything you & everyone else are happy to point out the purchase quantities, I'm talking about whether you have 3500 credits or 10,000 credits in your account, it'll cost the same to get 12 month for you or someone else.

iAmCaffeine wrote:Except you can only buy credits in the following quantities:

• 500
• 1250
• 2500
• 5200
• 11,000

So, you either buy 3750 credits @ $40 or 5200 @ $50. That is, quite clearly, more expensive. Trying to hide it is pitiful.

iAmCaffeine wrote:I was aware of that. However, the issue is that to purchase someone else a premium membership has to be done with credits, ergo more money has to be spent. The fact that the "amounts" are the same is irrelevant and misleading when it's clear cost is the primary concern.

If you're not purchasing through credits you pay $29.99. Yet this option isn't available to buy for someone else, which leads me to question the system on the basis it contributes to the ongoing decline in membership.

You keep bypassing the actual costs involved and just focusing on the amount of credits required. Bravo.

To purchase premium for somewhere else you spend a minimum of $40, whereas it's $29.99 for yourself. This doesn't take potential existing credits into account, and nor should it.

I highlighted that little word above in case you were getting confused.

iAmCaffeine wrote:

IcePack wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:

IcePack wrote:The answer lies in one of your other topics. It's the same price as your premium not more.
More details on your other thread

That hides the truth, let's be honest. You cannot purchase premium for another member at the same price as yourself as you have to purchase a set number of credits, which results in leftovers and more money.

owenshooter wrote:now, we have a volunteer posting about these practices we have been trying to have changed

A SoC trainer doesn't qualify as a volunteer.

To purchase 12 month premium it is exactly the same price for you or someone else, UNLESS you choose to subscribe and get the discount. Yes you have to get more credits etc but that's not what I said, I was specifically addressing the specific number of credits are equal for you or others. Not hiding anything you & everyone else are happy to point out the purchase quantities, I'm talking about whether you have 3500 credits or 10,000 credits in your account, it'll cost the same to get 12 month for you or someone else.

iAmCaffeine wrote:Except you can only buy credits in the following quantities:

• 500
• 1250
• 2500
• 5200
• 11,000

So, you either buy 3750 credits @ $40 or 5200 @ $50. That is, quite clearly, more expensive. Trying to hide it is pitiful.

iAmCaffeine wrote:I was aware of that. However, the issue is that to purchase someone else a premium membership has to be done with credits, ergo more money has to be spent. The fact that the "amounts" are the same is irrelevant and misleading when it's clear cost is the primary concern.

If you're not purchasing through credits you pay $29.99. Yet this option isn't available to buy for someone else, which leads me to question the system on the basis it contributes to the ongoing decline in membership.

You keep bypassing the actual costs involved and just focusing on the amount of credits required. Bravo.

To purchase premium for somewhere else you spend a minimum of $40, whereas it's $29.99 for yourself. This doesn't take potential existing credits into account, and nor should it.

I highlighted that little word above in case you were getting confused.

And you keep missing the fact you're talking about two different products.
Product one is a 12 year reoccurring subscription (you get a discount!)
Product two is a 12 year non subscription (you pay full price)

I'm not missing the fact, I'm ignoring it because that is not what the discussion is about. To add insult, I just went into the store for a little experiment and in the checkout the customer isn't even told how much they're about to spend before proceeding with the order. Top quality user experience.