Conquer Club

mrswdk wrote:On a side note, if you're a North American or European who can't tell the difference between a Nazi swastika and the Buddhist one then you really are a cretin. Don't all Westerners study the Nazis in history class?

DoomYoshi wrote:Because censorship is an inherently stupid and illogical thing. Can you even access this website without a VPN?

mrswdk wrote:

DoomYoshi wrote:Because censorship is an inherently stupid and illogical thing. Can you even access this website without a VPN?

I've just left China, but yes I could surf CC without a VPN while I was there

Serbia wrote:

mrswdk wrote:

DoomYoshi wrote:Because censorship is an inherently stupid and illogical thing. Can you even access this website without a VPN?

I've just left China, but yes I could surf CC without a VPN while I was there

Are you going to pretend to be a busty, beer guzzling German girl now?

Bollocks.

mrswdk wrote:I got a Global Chat ban at least partially for using a swastika. If we completely ignore the fact that the swastika is a symbol of peace for a couple of billion people, and pretend for a moment that I posted that Nazi swastika and intended it to be taken like that, then why is it a bannable offence to post a swastika but not a confederate flag, rising sun flag, USAAF symbol or any other image associated with atrocities and human rights violations?

I picked those three because I have seen all three used in avatars, signatures and/or individual posts. I'm sure there are more.

mrswdk wrote:I got a Global Chat ban at least partially for using a swastika.

loutil wrote:Interesting that you chose to put the USAAF symbol along side the Nazi swastika as if there is some moral equivalence. There is not.

loutil wrote:

mrswdk wrote:I got a Global Chat ban at least partially for using a swastika. If we completely ignore the fact that the swastika is a symbol of peace for a couple of billion people, and pretend for a moment that I posted that Nazi swastika and intended it to be taken like that, then why is it a bannable offence to post a swastika but not a confederate flag, rising sun flag, USAAF symbol or any other image associated with atrocities and human rights violations?

I picked those three because I have seen all three used in avatars, signatures and/or individual posts. I'm sure there are more.

Interesting that you chose to put the USAAF symbol along side the Nazi swastika as if there is some moral equivalence. There is not.
As to your question...I would argue that the swastika symbolizes, in the minds of many, the killing millions of people and horrific atrocities. The others do not rise to that level at least in the minds of many. The swastika, rightly or not, represents one of the worst moments in human history.

mrswdk wrote:

loutil wrote:

mrswdk wrote:I got a Global Chat ban at least partially for using a swastika. If we completely ignore the fact that the swastika is a symbol of peace for a couple of billion people, and pretend for a moment that I posted that Nazi swastika and intended it to be taken like that, then why is it a bannable offence to post a swastika but not a confederate flag, rising sun flag, USAAF symbol or any other image associated with atrocities and human rights violations?

I picked those three because I have seen all three used in avatars, signatures and/or individual posts. I'm sure there are more.

Interesting that you chose to put the USAAF symbol along side the Nazi swastika as if there is some moral equivalence. There is not.
As to your question...I would argue that the swastika symbolizes, in the minds of many, the killing millions of people and horrific atrocities. The others do not rise to that level at least in the minds of many. The swastika, rightly or not, represents one of the worst moments in human history.

It's not a question of which group did worse things. Ask a European which group was worse and they'll probably say the Nazis. Ask a Chinese or Korean and they'll say imperial Japan. Ask a Vietnamese or maybe quite a few Japanese and they'll say the USAAF. Ask a black American or liberal mouth breather and they might say the Confederacy. The point is that all those symbols are associated with atrocities, so why ban one while allowing others?

(edit: just saw Serbia's post saying basically the same thing. Will leave mine here anyway)

owenshooter wrote:

mrswdk wrote:

loutil wrote:

mrswdk wrote:I got a Global Chat ban at least partially for using a swastika. If we completely ignore the fact that the swastika is a symbol of peace for a couple of billion people, and pretend for a moment that I posted that Nazi swastika and intended it to be taken like that, then why is it a bannable offence to post a swastika but not a confederate flag, rising sun flag, USAAF symbol or any other image associated with atrocities and human rights violations?

I picked those three because I have seen all three used in avatars, signatures and/or individual posts. I'm sure there are more.

Interesting that you chose to put the USAAF symbol along side the Nazi swastika as if there is some moral equivalence. There is not.
As to your question...I would argue that the swastika symbolizes, in the minds of many, the killing millions of people and horrific atrocities. The others do not rise to that level at least in the minds of many. The swastika, rightly or not, represents one of the worst moments in human history.

It's not a question of which group did worse things. Ask a European which group was worse and they'll probably say the Nazis. Ask a Chinese or Korean and they'll say imperial Japan. Ask a Vietnamese or maybe quite a few Japanese and they'll say the USAAF. Ask a black American or liberal mouth breather and they might say the Confederacy. The point is that all those symbols are associated with atrocities, so why ban one while allowing others?

(edit: just saw Serbia's post saying basically the same thing. Will leave mine here anyway)

yeah, you are right... over 100 million blacks killed during slavery, which is called the greatest crime in history, isn't up for debate... it is the worst crime in history... thanks for pointing that out...-Jésus noir

owenshooter wrote:

mrswdk wrote:

loutil wrote:

mrswdk wrote:I got a Global Chat ban at least partially for using a swastika. If we completely ignore the fact that the swastika is a symbol of peace for a couple of billion people, and pretend for a moment that I posted that Nazi swastika and intended it to be taken like that, then why is it a bannable offence to post a swastika but not a confederate flag, rising sun flag, USAAF symbol or any other image associated with atrocities and human rights violations?

I picked those three because I have seen all three used in avatars, signatures and/or individual posts. I'm sure there are more.

Interesting that you chose to put the USAAF symbol along side the Nazi swastika as if there is some moral equivalence. There is not.
As to your question...I would argue that the swastika symbolizes, in the minds of many, the killing millions of people and horrific atrocities. The others do not rise to that level at least in the minds of many. The swastika, rightly or not, represents one of the worst moments in human history.

It's not a question of which group did worse things. Ask a European which group was worse and they'll probably say the Nazis. Ask a Chinese or Korean and they'll say imperial Japan. Ask a Vietnamese or maybe quite a few Japanese and they'll say the USAAF. Ask a black American or liberal mouth breather and they might say the Confederacy. The point is that all those symbols are associated with atrocities, so why ban one while allowing others?

(edit: just saw Serbia's post saying basically the same thing. Will leave mine here anyway)

yeah, you are right... over 100 million blacks killed during slavery, which is called the greatest crime in history, isn't up for debate... it is the worst crime in history... thanks for pointing that out...-Jésus noir

Serbia wrote:

loutil wrote:Interesting that you chose to put the USAAF symbol along side the Nazi swastika as if there is some moral equivalence. There is not.

I would argue that could be a matter of perspective. Take Japan. They did not suffer genocide at the hands of the Nazis. They did suffer horrible casualties when the USAAF dropped nuclear bombs on their major cities. We don't have awful memories of those bombings because we didn't experience it, and it helped us win the war. They remember it much more negatively, for obvious reasons.

The world doesn't revolve around American sensibilities. Remember that next time you're arguing about which symbols should be banned or allowed.

Bollocks.

loutil wrote:

owenshooter wrote:

mrswdk wrote:

loutil wrote:

mrswdk wrote:I got a Global Chat ban at least partially for using a swastika. If we completely ignore the fact that the swastika is a symbol of peace for a couple of billion people, and pretend for a moment that I posted that Nazi swastika and intended it to be taken like that, then why is it a bannable offence to post a swastika but not a confederate flag, rising sun flag, USAAF symbol or any other image associated with atrocities and human rights violations?

I picked those three because I have seen all three used in avatars, signatures and/or individual posts. I'm sure there are more.

Interesting that you chose to put the USAAF symbol along side the Nazi swastika as if there is some moral equivalence. There is not.
As to your question...I would argue that the swastika symbolizes, in the minds of many, the killing millions of people and horrific atrocities. The others do not rise to that level at least in the minds of many. The swastika, rightly or not, represents one of the worst moments in human history.

It's not a question of which group did worse things. Ask a European which group was worse and they'll probably say the Nazis. Ask a Chinese or Korean and they'll say imperial Japan. Ask a Vietnamese or maybe quite a few Japanese and they'll say the USAAF. Ask a black American or liberal mouth breather and they might say the Confederacy. The point is that all those symbols are associated with atrocities, so why ban one while allowing others?

(edit: just saw Serbia's post saying basically the same thing. Will leave mine here anyway)

yeah, you are right... over 100 million blacks killed during slavery, which is called the greatest crime in history, isn't up for debate... it is the worst crime in history... thanks for pointing that out...-Jésus noir

The estimates are that around 11 million slaves were shipped across the Atlantic. Between 10 -20% died during the voyage.
If you are referring to The Maafa then the numbers vary quite a bit and some are not overly credible although I will grant you it is a large number. One big difference between between the other groups mentioned and the black slave trade is that it was other blacks who fed the trade.

loutil wrote:

Serbia wrote:

loutil wrote:Interesting that you chose to put the USAAF symbol along side the Nazi swastika as if there is some moral equivalence. There is not.

I would argue that could be a matter of perspective. Take Japan. They did not suffer genocide at the hands of the Nazis. They did suffer horrible casualties when the USAAF dropped nuclear bombs on their major cities. We don't have awful memories of those bombings because we didn't experience it, and it helped us win the war. They remember it much more negatively, for obvious reasons.

The world doesn't revolve around American sensibilities. Remember that next time you're arguing about which symbols should be banned or allowed.

Bollocks.

We can agree to disagree. There is no moral equivalency between the two. In case you forgot, the Japanese ATTACKED us and declared war on us. Their casualties were a result of their own actions. The Jews did not declare war on the Nazi's.
I suspect that most Japanese know why we resorted to dropping the bombs. Their leadership left us no choice. Better that then trying to kill every last one of them...

loutil wrote:

Serbia wrote:

loutil wrote:Interesting that you chose to put the USAAF symbol along side the Nazi swastika as if there is some moral equivalence. There is not.

I would argue that could be a matter of perspective. Take Japan. They did not suffer genocide at the hands of the Nazis. They did suffer horrible casualties when the USAAF dropped nuclear bombs on their major cities. We don't have awful memories of those bombings because we didn't experience it, and it helped us win the war. They remember it much more negatively, for obvious reasons.

The world doesn't revolve around American sensibilities. Remember that next time you're arguing about which symbols should be banned or allowed.

Bollocks.

We can agree to disagree. There is no moral equivalency between the two. In case you forgot, the Japanese ATTACKED us and declared war on us. Their casualties were a result of their own actions. The Jews did not declare war on the Nazi's.
I suspect that most Japanese know why we resorted to dropping the bombs. Their leadership left us no choice. Better that then trying to kill every last one of them...

DaGip wrote:

loutil wrote:

owenshooter wrote:

mrswdk wrote:

loutil wrote:

mrswdk wrote:I got a Global Chat ban at least partially for using a swastika. If we completely ignore the fact that the swastika is a symbol of peace for a couple of billion people, and pretend for a moment that I posted that Nazi swastika and intended it to be taken like that, then why is it a bannable offence to post a swastika but not a confederate flag, rising sun flag, USAAF symbol or any other image associated with atrocities and human rights violations?

I picked those three because I have seen all three used in avatars, signatures and/or individual posts. I'm sure there are more.

Interesting that you chose to put the USAAF symbol along side the Nazi swastika as if there is some moral equivalence. There is not.
As to your question...I would argue that the swastika symbolizes, in the minds of many, the killing millions of people and horrific atrocities. The others do not rise to that level at least in the minds of many. The swastika, rightly or not, represents one of the worst moments in human history.

It's not a question of which group did worse things. Ask a European which group was worse and they'll probably say the Nazis. Ask a Chinese or Korean and they'll say imperial Japan. Ask a Vietnamese or maybe quite a few Japanese and they'll say the USAAF. Ask a black American or liberal mouth breather and they might say the Confederacy. The point is that all those symbols are associated with atrocities, so why ban one while allowing others?

(edit: just saw Serbia's post saying basically the same thing. Will leave mine here anyway)

yeah, you are right... over 100 million blacks killed during slavery, which is called the greatest crime in history, isn't up for debate... it is the worst crime in history... thanks for pointing that out...-Jésus noir

The estimates are that around 11 million slaves were shipped across the Atlantic. Between 10 -20% died during the voyage.
If you are referring to The Maafa then the numbers vary quite a bit and some are not overly credible although I will grant you it is a large number. One big difference between between the other groups mentioned and the black slave trade is that it was other blacks who fed the trade.

Also, the fact any fact that you may pull out of your ass was given to you by a white man.

loutil wrote:If you are referring to The Maafa then the numbers vary quite a bit and some are not overly credible although I will grant you it is a large number. One big difference between between the other groups mentioned and the black slave trade is that it was other blacks who fed the trade.

owenshooter wrote:

loutil wrote:If you are referring to The Maafa then the numbers vary quite a bit and some are not overly credible although I will grant you it is a large number. One big difference between between the other groups mentioned and the black slave trade is that it was other blacks who fed the trade.

no, slavery... 100 million killed... and that is a conservative number... some say 1 billion killed in colonization... that isn't the argument... the confederate flag began to be flown in the south again, in opposition to the civil rights movement... fact...-jn

DaGip wrote:Yes, AND let's not forget the 50 MILLION Native AMericans (96% population extermination) that were killed off by both bounty, oppression, and germ warfare!