Nuked out of existence?

[lev_lafayette]

Hypothetically it is possible for nobody to win with nuclear spoils. Very appropriate, I know.

Imagine a particularly savage game, probably more than a few players and the nuclear cards go off everywhere.

A situation could arise where there are but two players left with a minimal number of regions and a player must use their cards, due to their number.

However, their nukes both destroy their opponent's and their own regions.

Nobody wins.

(I am sure this must have been raised before, it's just my google-fu is failing me).

[TeeGee]

since you only play 3 cards, you would have to be in a situation that the 2 or 3 remaining players had only 1 territory each. I then guess the winner would be the 1st to join, same rules that apply for round limit games if there is a tie.

[dakky21]

since you only play 3 cards, you would have to be in a situation that the 2 or 3 remaining players had only 1 territory each. I then guess the winner would be the 1st to join, same rules that apply for round limit games if there is a tie.

In a round limit games you are both alive. Imagine I have only one territory and you 2 territories. I have 5 spoils and I must use exactly those which will nuke mine 1 and 2 of yours. There is no winner, we are both killed...? That is a tie technically, but don't know what would happen.

[Swifte]

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=181236&p=3956620&hilit=nuke+tie#p3956620

In a Nuclear spoils game, if you use a set that eliminates yourself and the only other person in the game, who wins? It would be stupid and pointless for neutral to win, but yet can you win a game you were eliminated in? Surely the other remaining person can't win since they themselves were also eliminated.

a neutal player cannot win the game
when you have a set that eliminates all players in a game, then the most left card gets played first, the person last standing(read hit by nuke) then wins

[betiko]

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=181236&p=3956620&hilit=nuke+tie#p3956620

In a Nuclear spoils game, if you use a set that eliminates yourself and the only other person in the game, who wins? It would be stupid and pointless for neutral to win, but yet can you win a game you were eliminated in? Surely the other remaining person can't win since they themselves were also eliminated.

a neutal player cannot win the game
when you have a set that eliminates all players in a game, then the most left card gets played first, the person last standing(read hit by nuke) then wins

i don't understand your statement. you mean by that that the guy left with the most spoils in hands win? ergo the guy that nuked everybody still standing? (since he would end up with all cards left on the board in hand after the first nuke?)

[Swifte]

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=181236&p=3956620&hilit=nuke+tie#p3956620

In a Nuclear spoils game, if you use a set that eliminates yourself and the only other person in the game, who wins? It would be stupid and pointless for neutral to win, but yet can you win a game you were eliminated in? Surely the other remaining person can't win since they themselves were also eliminated.

a neutal player cannot win the game
when you have a set that eliminates all players in a game, then the most left card gets played first, the person last standing(read hit by nuke) then wins

i don't understand your statement. you mean by that that the guy left with the most spoils in hands win? ergo the guy that nuked everybody still standing? (since he would end up with all cards left on the board in hand after the first nuke?)

No. When you look at your spoils in your hand (or in the game, in this case) they are listed from left to right (say spoil 1 spoil 2 spoil 3 spoil 4 spoil 5).

If you cash spoil 2, spoil 3, spoil 5 as your set, it nukes the territory for spoil #2 first because it is the 'left most' card in your hand. if that kills a player, they're out, game ends. if not, move on to the second spoil turned in "spoil #3 from your hand"), nuke it. if someone dies, the other player wins. And so on.

In other words, even though turning in and nuking everything appears to be a simultaneous event in the normal log, it actually processes your cards 1 by 1 checking to see if someone wins after the territory is nuked. and it starts with the card that was furthest left in your hand that you turned in, and works right from there.