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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby bamage on Fri May 13, 2022 11:54 am

My two cents: the inaction on some of the features that the community has agreed would make this a better place borders on disdain for people who love CC by the people who own/run CC.

The best example, in my opinion, is the continued inaction on ensuring as-even-as-possible game starts in 1v1 tournaments. Consider a committed player, painstakingly strategizing and winning a couple of rounds, just to end up going last in all 5 finals games on a map that (like more than half the maps) provides a big advantage to the first mover. He's going to think, "Why did I bother when it's really just a coin toss? Do I love this place way more than its owners? Do they understand what motivates their most ardent supporters?"

It's an abusive relationship that more and more players are just going to walk away from. I remember what it was like when we had 30k active players. LackAttack gave a shit, and it showed in every aspect of the game. CC wasn't perfect but there was a clear sense of demonstrable progress on every rough edge.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat May 14, 2022 4:13 am

If one needs any more proof of the Decline of CC, one can look at the lack of good conversation and discussion in many of the Forums.

Too many posts are done by Trolls and those filled with hate that they spew too often.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby HitRed on Sat May 14, 2022 11:41 am

God is so excited. Looking forward to the 25th.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Davie.K on Tue May 17, 2022 11:04 pm

4,869 ... =D>
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Torbjorn666 on Sat May 21, 2022 5:14 am

I think its pretty obvious CC is not a game that will attract lots of new kids but it shouldn't be hard to hold on to long-time players. I've quit my subscription after about a decade that I would have just kept rolling for life. I complained about abuse in speed games and how it turns and ruins games as so many players don't realise the abuse is about manipulating the game. And I play this for fun after work not to get shouted at by daft wee boys. The admin couldn't care less so I'll just keep my money and won't play speed games.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Davie.K on Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:10 am

4,801 ......will today see us drop into the 4,700's ?
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Davie.K on Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:07 am

Davie.K wrote:4,801 ......will today see us drop into the 4,700's ?



Yes
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Davie.K on Fri Jul 01, 2022 1:32 pm

Davie.K wrote:
Davie.K wrote:4,801 ......will today see us drop into the 4,700's ?



Yes


4,700 NEVER thought less than 2 weeks after this i would be posting again something so similar .... will today see us drop into the 4,600's ? :o
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:53 pm

bamage wrote:My two cents: the inaction on some of the features that the community has agreed would make this a better place borders on disdain for people who love CC by the people who own/run CC.

The best example, in my opinion, is the continued inaction on ensuring as-even-as-possible game starts in 1v1 tournaments. Consider a committed player, painstakingly strategizing and winning a couple of rounds, just to end up going last in all 5 finals games on a map that (like more than half the maps) provides a big advantage to the first mover. He's going to think, "Why did I bother when it's really just a coin toss? Do I love this place way more than its owners? Do they understand what motivates their most ardent supporters?"

It's an abusive relationship that more and more players are just going to walk away from. I remember what it was like when we had 30k active players. LackAttack gave a shit, and it showed in every aspect of the game. CC wasn't perfect but there was a clear sense of demonstrable progress on every rough edge.


As I have said several times already, the decline of CC is not due to one factor, one person, or DICE. Very simply, there are many more websites offering this game and many sites offer good video graphics and "bells and whistles" too. There are claims of good tutorial videos on some of those other sites, but I have not found one. I am rather sure that the decline of CC is not unique; other long time game sites have seen a similar decline. Also, Hasbro, the owner of the Risk board game and its video spinoffs, has created an online Risk game site and that will draw NEW player there and away from us on CC.

There are more options for more sites and for more games online; that is where many of the 30K now are, playing Risk, enjoying other games, and/or playing video games on their home consoles. Risk, with a 24 hour wait, is too long a wait for the "instant gratification" desired by today's younger players. And most young people find this site too boring.

The decline has been steady for at least the last 10 years (or longer). COVID did provide a surge of new people, but I doubt many stayed. The long downward trend was interrupted by COVID in 2020. Someone has that graph showing the overall trend and perhaps NOW is a good time to ask for an update.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby IcePack on Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:57 pm

Page 192 last updated in Jan

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=152877&start=4775#p5236111

And the following post right after it. I donā€™t mind updating again but the graph is barely going to change
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Hooch on Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:22 pm

It is almost Northern Hemisphere winter, you'll get your feel good spike soon....
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:31 pm

IcePack wrote:Page 192 last updated in Jan

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=152877&start=4775#p5236111

And the following post right after it. I donā€™t mind updating again but the graph is barely going to change


Thanks, IcePack; I did not go back to see when and who did the update(s).

An update about every 6 months seems reasonable. What do you think, IcePack?

Or less often? Depends on events that MAY alter the general trend?
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby IcePack on Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:00 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:
IcePack wrote:Page 192 last updated in Jan

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=152877&start=4775#p5236111

And the following post right after it. I donā€™t mind updating again but the graph is barely going to change


Thanks, IcePack; I did not go back to see when and who did the update(s).

An update about every 6 months seems reasonable. What do you think, IcePack?

Or less often? Depends on events that MAY alter the general trend?


I dont have a set frequency, I kinda do it when its either brought up / requested / major changes or when Mets pops in and does it himself.
I won't have a lot of time until after July so it'll be slow going if I try and do an update atm... I might start picking away if I can but idk how far ill get.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby IcePack on Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:07 pm

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This is what I have time for now, the secondary link of game info and everything else will gotta get updated this fall or something.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby PureStink on Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:24 am

Fascinating stats. Will CC stabilise at around 5000 members or continue to decline?
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:27 am

Thanks, IcePack.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby IcePack on Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:10 am

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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Davie.K on Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:06 pm

IcePack wrote:4701



Yep,interesting that,it had continue to drop and was getting close to 4,600 or looked like it,but bounced back rapidly over the last few days...heaven knows what caused that "erection" but unless they are multis or not covid spike related (possible) ... good to see.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:36 pm

This thread is over a decade ago.
The other one is even older.
Just saying.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Ltrain on Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:03 pm

Davie.K wrote:4,869 ... =D>


Whoa... As of now the current post count on this thread is 4,869. Which of course it wasn't when you posted this and won't be after I hit submit but... whoa.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Davie.K on Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:17 pm

Ltrain wrote:
Davie.K wrote:4,869 ... =D>


Whoa... As of now the current post count on this thread is 4,869. Which of course it wasn't when you posted this and won't be after I hit submit but... whoa.


:D I loved your post for so many reasons =D>
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby coinspaid on Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:24 am

Davie.K wrote:Indeed my friend ... btw I think the post was from a year or so before the pandemic off the top of my head.


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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Davie.K on Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:31 pm

Hooch wrote:It is almost Northern Hemisphere winter, you'll get your feel good spike soon....


4,820

That winter is still a little way off,but with the recent upsurge ( whatever the reason for it ? ) and that winter up our sleeves still..returning to 5,000 again is back on in my eyes.

I notice in the past there is always a bit of a change in numbers as the new month ticks over ...again no idea why..but even if it comes in a negative form we do seem to have reached a plateau now.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby TeeGee on Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:41 pm

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